MRT Thread

[Monseratto]

Presidential Spokesman Harry Roque recieved the full VIP treatment for his MRT experience... Skipped the line, and had the whole train to himself with guards to shoo other commuters away (same sh*t Jun Emilio Abaya got}... And he commented the trip was fast and pleasant. So what's the big deal about MRT problems?

[absinthe]

PS: WTF was Spox Roque thinking when he did that MRT3 stunt earlier today? Meh dala pang isang batallion ng media reporters...*_*

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Inconvenience
FIRST PERSON By Alex Magno (The Philippine Star) |
Updated November 23, 2017 - 12:00am

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Some would want us to believe that the problematic MRT-3 can be saved simply by replacing BURI with the original maintenance provider, Sumitomo. It is as if Sumitomo is simply standing by waiting to renew its affair with the MRT-3.

I have it on good source that Sumitomo is reluctant to return.

First, they were really treated badly by the Mar Roxas-Jun Abaya gang. Their engagement was terminated on indecently short notice.

Second, they cannot possibly accept an engagement limited to maintenance. That is like buying aspirin to deal with cancer. In order to do maintenance properly, they will have to rebuild the system.

Third, Sumitomo is wary about dealing with bureaucrats again and working with the arcane bidding and procurement rules that make it impossible to have a clear timeline of work. They would prefer to work with the private owners, MRTC. This will enable them to be assured of funding without having to deal with the arcane rules of public procurement.

For as long as management of the MRT-3 is controlled by the DOTr, the process of bringing in professional help will require, before anything else a budget allocation determined by congressmen, not engineers. Then they will have to go through some form of competitive bidding where losing bidders normally go to court to stop an award.

We do not know how long it will take for the DOTr to replace BURI with a new service contractor like Sumitomo. There is nothing in next year’s budget to fund the billions needed to “rehabilitate” the MRT-3.

Sumitomo estimates they will need to bring in as many as a hundred engineers to do the “rehabilitation.” Even then, and with full funding, they will need 26 months at the very least to make the MRT-3 reliably functional.

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[absinthe]

Based from ex-USec Chavez's statement, it looks like the DOTr is amenable to the LRMC offer.

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*JeromeAningINQ

Statement re- what is the gov't, MRT-3 mgt doing to solve MRT-3 woes; issued by *DOTrPH usec for rails Chavez this AM, about 2 hrs before he announced his resignation.

[reddik2017]

Everyday MRT passenger here...hopefully with all the media mileage,sana ma improve/upgrade na ang mrt...sa lahat ng aspeto.

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[Monseratto]

Nobody is buying into it...

'Nakakaabala': Commuters slam Roque for MRT3 'PR stunt'

[kisshmet]

Based from ex-USec Chavez's statement, it looks like the DOTr is amenable to the LRMC offer.

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*JeromeAningINQ

Bringing in a new concessionare in the mrt3 fiasco will make matter worse financially for the govt bcoz sobrepenas group is an existing concessionare until 2025

Sobrepenas fare was undercut by glory admin to deodorize their corrupt reputation then to the voting mrt commuters. With the fare so cheap the glory admin bit the bullet to subsidize the sobrepena group

With the introduction of a new concessionare who will get the subsidy from the govt? With the fare continually cheap and considering the original contract its the sobrepena who have the right to claim the subsidy. Introducing a new concessionare will complicate how to split the subsidy the govt provides with the very cheap mrt3 fare

Yes, mrt3 is being milked by sobrepena group to the hilt, until 2025

Thats what the quagmire is all about, mrt3 is an old system that requires total rehabilitation. Its fare is cheap which is highly subsidized by the govt for mrt3 commuters who have to power to vote and bring people to power. The original concessionares contract will expire in 2025. The train coaches are old, tired and dwindling and requires immediate relief. The rails are in bad condition and requires immefiate replacement to smoothen the ride and reduce the strain on the old coaches.

So how do we solve this complicated problem? Wait until 2025 and boot the sobrepenas before bringing in a new concessionare

With a strict govt procurement program and a government put to power because of its political will the mrt3 commuters are waiting for a solution. Matters will get worse with mrt3 until its technical issues are resolved

Mrt3 doesnt need a new concessionare now, it needs technical minds and private financier to resolve mrt3s technical woes

Hence, mrt3 is in dire need for a philantropist, technical minds, govt with honest to goodness political will and most important of all an understanding mrt3 commuters
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[Monseratto]

Thats what the quagmire is all about, mrt3 is an old system that requires total rehabilitation. Its fare is cheap which is highly subsidized by the govt for mrt3 commuters who have to power to vote and bring people to power. The original concessionares contract will expire in 2025. The train coaches are old, tired and dwindling and requires immediate relief. The rails are in bad condition and requires immefiate replacement to smoothen the ride and reduce the strain on the old coaches.

Heard from the news that BURI stripped/cannibalized some of the coaches bare for parts because there are no sources to buy from.

[kagalingan]

baklasin na lang mrt......

[kisshmet]

Heard from the news that BURI stripped/cannibalized some of the coaches bare for parts because there is no sources to buy from.

Thats why the number of coaches will cotinue to dwindle bcoz the original mrt3 coaches were manufactured in europe and the original manufacturer doesnt build that design anymore, even the spare parts

Ganyan din ang gagawin ng maintenance provider na papalit sa BURI kasi mahihirapan na maghanap ng fresh spare parts

Yan ang dahilan kung bakit bago na ang binili ng dilawan at hindi nila hinire ang serbisyo ng KINGS OF RESTORATION

Pero pilit na sinisiraan ng kasalukuyang nakapwesto sa gobyerno. Madali nilang siniraan ang mga bagong bagon kahit hindi pa nila napalitan ang riles at masusing masuri ang mga bagong biling bagon

To sum up ano ang nagawa ng glory admin sa mrt3 system..ibaba ang pamasahe para makakuha ng maraming boto ng 2004 presidential election

Ano ang nagawa ng dilawan..nakabili ng bagong bagon para ipalit sa mga luma at bumibigay ng bagon..hindi rin nila hinayaan madagdagan ang subsidy sa pamamagitan ng pagpigil sa pagpasok ng bagong concessionare

Ano ang nagawa ng kasalukuyan..nakapagsampa ng kaso laban sa dating nakapwesto

Ano ang hinahanap ko sa kasalukuyan..POLITICAL WILL to resolve the technical issues

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[StockEngine]

Tren ng MRT, 15 minutong tumirik; ilang pasahero, nahirapang huminga sa sobrang siksikan - YouTube

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[StockEngine]

parang 10,000 riders sa Taft station 😐

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[Yuesford]

Wala akong masyadong alam sa field na to pero di ba't mas okay kung irenovate nalang yung railroad. Time will come na wala nang tren na compatible dyan. Puro luma nalang. Unless tayo magpproduce mismo ng trenin which i really doubt na mangyayare.

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[Yuesford]

Mrt 3 talga, is the worst! nagmahal at mas mahal pa sa bus. Nung 2014 kasi 14php lang from first to last station tapos 34php ata kung i-ddaan mo sa bus.

Lrt 1 ibang tren okay yung iba...
Lrt 2 lang nakikita kong maganda.

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[kisshmet]

Wala akong masyadong alam sa field na to pero di ba't mas okay kung irenovate nalang yung railroad. Time will come na wala nang tren na compatible dyan. Puro luma nalang. Unless tayo magpproduce mismo ng trenin which i really doubt na mangyayare.

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Total rehabilitation of rails will require a shutdown of mrt3 operation to give way for the workers to do their thing and that requires POLITICAL WILL

Do it before 2019 election and it could result in the defeat of this administrations candidates..do it after 2019, that means mrt3 commuters will have to endure the WORST

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[StockEngine]

Total rehabilitation of rails will require a shutdown of mrt3 operation to give way for the workers to do their thing and that requires POLITICAL WILL

Do it before 2019 election and it could result in the defeat of this administrations candidates..do it after 2019, that means mrt3 commuters will have to endure the WORST

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sure it will be shut down if done so. its a massive undertaking. 17km long. sure the contractor and the govt will have to work together to make it less bloody .. 3 shifts on a holy week?

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[kinto92]

sure it will be shut down if done so. its a massive undertaking. 17km long. sure the contractor and the govt will have to work together to make it less bloody .. 3 shifts on a holy week?

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Shutdown is OK kung may alternative. If they solely control yung bus lanes it might be possible. Yung tipong MRT buses ang nandun at maluwag.

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[playplugg]

Long time rider din ako ng MRT during early 2000's High School And College days, lalo kung papuntang north side, then pauwi sa south side.. hanggang 2010..

Dati, hindi ganoon kasikip ang MRT, from guadalupe to central/ortigas station, less than 10 mins..

ang pamasahe pa noon, dulo't-dulo, 20 pesos lang noon, at yung manipis pa na black card,

nagkakaroon lang ng maraming passengers sa MRT, kung merong concert sa araneta coliseum... bago magsimula ang concert during northbound, at pauwi naman pag southbound...(wala pang arena sa MOA)

nag start lang dumami ang passenger ng MRT during 2007--- nung time na umabot sa 60pesos + ang fuel, wala pang uber at grab noon, at hindi pa ganoon kalala ang traffic sa edsa.. lalo nung 2008, biglang surge na talaga ng mga passengers..
hanggang sa nag-sunod sunod na...

Ang problema ng MRT, napabayaan talaga.. Unlike sa LRT, mas matanda pa yan.. pero maintained pa rin..

[kinto92]

Long time rider din ako ng MRT during early 2000's High School And College days, lalo kung papuntang north side, then pauwi sa south side.. hanggang 2010..

Dati, hindi ganoon kasikip ang MRT, from guadalupe to central/ortigas station, less than 10 mins..

ang pamasahe pa noon, dulo't-dulo, 20 pesos lang noon, at yung manipis pa na black card,

nagkakaroon lang ng maraming passengers sa MRT, kung merong concert sa araneta coliseum... bago magsimula ang concert during northbound, at pauwi naman pag southbound...(wala pang arena sa MOA)

nag start lang dumami ang passenger ng MRT during 2007--- nung time na umabot sa 60pesos + ang fuel, wala pang uber at grab noon, at hindi pa ganoon kalala ang traffic sa edsa.. lalo nung 2008, biglang surge na talaga ng mga passengers..
hanggang sa nag-sunod sunod na...

Ang problema ng MRT, napabayaan talaga.. Unlike sa LRT, mas matanda pa yan.. pero maintained pa rin..

Those were the days. Pwede mo ilagay ito sa Titos and Titas of Manila [emoji2]

Nag open yan mrt3 after the rizal day bombing. Yan ang alternative namin sa lrt kasi sarado sya from carriedo to monumento (ata, I'm getting old). Pero open ang baclaraan hanggang central. Anluwag pa nun at ang lamig.


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[Flipo]

Thats why the number of coaches will cotinue to dwindle bcoz the original mrt3 coaches were manufactured in europe and the original manufacturer doesnt build that design anymore, even the spare parts

Ganyan din ang gagawin ng maintenance provider na papalit sa BURI kasi mahihirapan na maghanap ng fresh spare parts

Yan ang dahilan kung bakit bago na ang binili ng dilawan at hindi nila hinire ang serbisyo ng KINGS OF RESTORATION

Pero pilit na sinisiraan ng kasalukuyang nakapwesto sa gobyerno. Madali nilang siniraan ang mga bagong bagon kahit hindi pa nila napalitan ang riles at masusing masuri ang mga bagong biling bagon

To sum up ano ang nagawa ng glory admin sa mrt3 system..ibaba ang pamasahe para makakuha ng maraming boto ng 2004 presidential election

Ano ang nagawa ng dilawan..nakabili ng bagong bagon para ipalit sa mga luma at bumibigay ng bagon..hindi rin nila hinayaan madagdagan ang subsidy sa pamamagitan ng pagpigil sa pagpasok ng bagong concessionare

Ano ang nagawa ng kasalukuyan..nakapagsampa ng kaso laban sa dating nakapwesto

Ano ang hinahanap ko sa kasalukuyan..POLITICAL WILL to resolve the technical issues

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Flash report (regular na) ngayong umaga sa DZBB, tirik na naman!

Naubusan na ng masisi ang admin na ito, wala na si Pabaya at nademanda na, nagresign na rin si Usec. Chavez, ano na next move ni TuGrabe?

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[WallyWest]

Magdasal daw di ba? Pero mukhang unanswered prayers so, simbahan na ang sisisihin?

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