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    I hope this is the beginning of better things for the commuter...

    Govt scraps rail deal with Korean firm - The Manila Times Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    I hope this is the beginning of better things for the commuter...

    Govt scraps rail deal with Korean firm - The Manila Times Online

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    mas ok kaya gawin chinese kunin? baka kasi dun din bagsak eh

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    Why not get the LRT's maintenance provider nalang for MRT?



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    If I recall, nobody wanted to be the MRT 3 service provider during the twilight of the yellow administration because the system was badly managed and the now obsolete trains were strained (Light trains operating like a full train system) to the braking point.

    The goverment had to do a negotiated contract with Busan.

    There were no parts since the service provider then did not prepare any since it's contract was on a monthly basis.

    The DoTR is in for a repeat. What it did was a PR stunt without thinking of the consequence.

    Best to sell the entire system to Metro Pacific since the taxpayer's money is being poured into a black hole. How much was wasted for those useless rolling stock bought from Dailan?

    For 2nd time, still no bidders for P2.4-B MRT service contract | Inquirer News

    P3.8-B MRT deal awarded without public bidding | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    Why not get the LRT's maintenance provider nalang for MRT?



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    LRT and MRT are different and lack commonality. And the MRT is still owned by private consortium under a highly defective PPP contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    LRT and MRT are different and lack commonality. And the MRT is still owned by private consortium under a highly defective PPP contract.
    What I meant was the service of LRT's maintenance provider is way better than the MRT's. hehe

    Trains and parts are of course different pero yung level of service man lang sana, at least mas maganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    I hope this is the beginning of better things for the commuter...

    Govt scraps rail deal with Korean firm - The Manila Times Online

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    on the contrary matters will get WORSE before it gets any better

    poorly maintained rails will destroy any train, even brand new ones

    we have old coaches plying old undulated rails. end result is stalled coaches impeding the movement of commuters

    the light at the end of the tunnel can be seen only with the complete overhaul of the MRT3 system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    If I recall, nobody wanted to be the MRT 3 service provider during the twilight of the yellow administration because the system was badly managed and the now obsolete trains were strained (Light trains operating like a full train system) to the braking point.

    The goverment had to do a negotiated contract with Busan.

    There were no parts since the service provider then did not prepare any since it's contract was on a monthly basis.

    The DoTR is in for a repeat. What it did was a PR stunt without thinking of the consequence.

    Best to sell the entire system to Metro Pacific since the taxpayer's money is being poured into a black hole. How much was wasted for those useless rolling stock bought from Dailan?

    For 2nd time, still no bidders for P2.4-B MRT service contract | Inquirer News

    P3.8-B MRT deal awarded without public bidding | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com
    +1 on this. The best route is to open a bid to sell the entire system, lock, stock and barrel to a private group.

    It will likely result in higher fares, but, if proper, reliable, convenient service is given, then it will be fine.

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    Who would want to buy the broken system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingoftheNorth View Post
    +1 on this. The best route is to open a bid to sell the entire system, lock, stock and barrel to a private group.

    It will likely result in higher fares, but, if proper, reliable, convenient service is given, then it will be fine.
    IIRC P17K ang 1week unli transpo sa train sa Japan per pax. Pero sulit nga naman bayad dahil maganda service.

    Hindi puwede sa public transport yung titipirin, masisira agad talaga. Maintenance is the key, eh you need good cash flow of money for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Who would want to buy the broken system?
    MVP's group does. MVP group revives bid to buy gov’t stake in MRT3 | Inquirer Business

    It's a business, and so long as they acquire it for the right price and are given flexibility in recovery of capex and opex, there's money to be made. What really killed the ability of MRT3's ability to properly maintain and upgrade was the ridiculously low fares that was set by government with no adjustments for over 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingoftheNorth View Post
    MVP's group does. MVP group revives bid to buy gov’t stake in MRT3 | Inquirer Business

    It's a business, and so long as they acquire it for the right price and are given flexibility in recovery of capex and opex, there's money to be made. What really killed the ability of MRT3's ability to properly maintain and upgrade was the ridiculously low fares that was set by government with no adjustments for over 20 years.
    It is not the low fares that ruined MRT3. It is the politicians who ruined it.

    The reason fares are low is because it is highly subsidized by the govt which is not uncommon. MRT operators receive additional money on top of the ticket value.

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    pave over the entire length of MRT3

    put those edsa buses up there

    bawas traffic sa edsa at the same time may masasakyan sa itaas

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pave over the entire length of MRT3

    put those edsa buses up there

    bawas traffic sa edsa at the same time may masasakyan sa itaas
    Wouldn't that cause traffic? Since 2 way lang sa taas? HAHAHA

    And ayaw pang umalis ng station/skayan hanggat di puno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingoftheNorth View Post
    MVP's group does. MVP group revives bid to buy gov’t stake in MRT3 | Inquirer Business

    It's a business, and so long as they acquire it for the right price and are given flexibility in recovery of capex and opex, there's money to be made. What really killed the ability of MRT3's ability to properly maintain and upgrade was the ridiculously low fares that was set by government with no adjustments for over 20 years.
    hope they get it rolling good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    Wouldn't that cause traffic? Since 2 way lang sa taas? HAHAHA

    And ayaw pang umalis ng station/skayan hanggat di puno.
    madali mapuno yan kita mo ung pila sa mga mrt station

    sa magkabilang dulo ng MRT meron dapat space where the buses can make uturn hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    Why not get the LRT's maintenance provider nalang for MRT?



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    My Mom also asked me why the MRT is newer than LRT but it breaks down more often than the LRT. I did not know what to answer.

    Bakit nga ba LRT hindi sirain?

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    Sirain din ang lrt. Mapanghi pa. Di lang nasa balita kasi ang service area nya is caloocan ,manila ,pasay. Far from the cbd.

    Plus, ang news stations is along edsa. Labas lang sila, may balita na sila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    My Mom also asked me why the MRT is newer than LRT but it breaks down more often than the LRT. I did not know what to answer.

    Bakit nga ba LRT hindi sirain?
    mrt edsa is the backbone of metro manila..

    lets just say the supposed mechanic cut corners...

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    My Mom also asked me why the MRT is newer than LRT but it breaks down more often than the LRT. I did not know what to answer.

    Bakit nga ba LRT hindi sirain?
    Yun nga eh. I used to ride the LRT going to school. Broke down only 3x during my 4 year stay.

    Eh mrt?

    3 to 4x a week before. Ngayon 3 to 4 x a day.

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