MMDA Chairman Tolentino's "brilliant" Ideas to Solve Traffic Problem in MM

[jdjoeydean]

dapat disiplina Huliin ang dapat huli, illegal loading and unloading. Sa Manila dami motorcycle and tricycle binabale wala ang stoplight. Then the PUJ king of the road wala silang huli...

[cardict]

dapat disiplina Huliin ang dapat huli, illegal loading and unloading. Sa Manila dami motorcycle and tricycle binabale wala ang stoplight. Then the PUJ king of the road wala silang huli...

Mas matindi ngayon puj sa Manila,remember jeep ni erap?

[vinj]

Mas matindi ngayon puj sa Manila,remember jeep ni erap?

His jeep is as fake as the persona they always try to portray.

[_Cathy_]

A-toybodykits ba yun? Yun ba yung sikat na shop?

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[Manilablock]

The best solution I can think of to solve the traffic is make public transportation free.


we do not earn money from home, we travel from our house to our place of work to earn money, hence due to traffic we lost some productivity.


to recover/minimize the lost productivity we use our cars to travel, that is why people who work outside the house buy cars anyway.


but every time you use your car you spend also, to earn money you need to spend money.


I spend Php220 on fuel to bring my car into office + Php150 for parking + Php??? for maintenance, using public transpo I spend Php155.

To make it simple I will use only Php370.


Php370 vs Php155 = Php215 savings if I use public transportation, however I prefer to spend more if I will be comfortable and feel safer.


so how do you encourage the drivers to leave their cars, the government should offer free ride.


Why? If I need to pay Php155 to be uncomfortable, I rather pay more and enjoy the ride.



But if it is free!!! then I might reconsider.



Also: From my tax alone the Goverment can already recover the Php155/day at malaki pa din ang sukli na matitira.



Ikaw, have you tried to compare how much you spend if you bring your car or use public transport?

[_Cathy_]

May country ba na free ang public transpo?

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[JohnM]

May country ba na free ang public transpo?

Medyo madami din: Free public transport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[wezz_zzew]

Pwede yung ganito sa atin tapos ang makaka-avail lang yung mga taxpayers. BIR Identification card ang gagamitin pang swipe. Bago pumasok ng bus, swipe, bago pumasok ng MRT/LRT, swipe. Ewan ko na lang kung di pa lumuwag kalsada nyan dahil mas madami magcocommute.

[Retz]

kung efficient lang ang transport system natin, i could give up riding my own vehicle commute na lang ako lagi.

[K.I.L.L.]

1000% agree with this,80% of riding public does'nt know the word subsidy,sasabihin pa ng mga leftist kawawa naman ang masa

That's because the public transport riding public would not own cars so they can't or don't want to understand the costs of maintaining a vehicle whereas with all of us, I am pretty sure we have all taken public transport one time or another. In my opinion, it is easier for us vehicle owners to understand public transport matters as we use both public and private transport systems whereas they only take public transport thereby putting us in a better position at understanding the traffic problems and what possible solutions are realistic and can and should be implemented.

It is easy for us to be branded as "anti-poor" since the poor generally think of themselves as the underdog majority and us as people who do not concern ourselves with their plight when in fact, all we want is for everyone to not be inconvenienced by traffic.

I laud the charirman's initiatives and I wish him every success but I hope that his proposals would not inconvenience private vehicles so much as this would also affect business (deliveries and people going to meetings, doing transactions) and would therefore equate to loss of revenue too.

[_Cathy_]

I'm watching the news re the 4 number coding proposal of MMDA. Makati and Las Pinas will "think about it". It seems like this is just an option for Makati and LP. May sarili talagang batas :rofl: Now they are thinking of implementing this on EDSA only.

[renzo_d10]

2 days number coding instead of 1 ?

Won't matter to people who have 2 cars or more.

And a lot already have 2 cars or more on their garage.

Instead of this, why not LESSEN the buses that run through EDSA since their number is more than what EDSA can handle anyway ?

Bakit parati private people ang pinapahamak, hindi yung PUVs, eh in truth, sila naman talaga abala?

[cardict]

2 days number coding instead of 1 ?

Won't matter to people who have 2 cars or more.

And a lot already have 2 cars or more on their garage.

Instead of this, why not LESSEN the buses that run through EDSA since their number is more than what EDSA can handle anyway ?

Bakit parati private people ang pinapahamak, hindi yung PUVs, eh in truth, sila naman talaga abala?

Kaya magiging mabili na naman mga 2 nd hand cars

[wezz_zzew]

I'm watching the news re the 4 number coding proposal of MMDA. Makati and Las Pinas will "think about it". It seems like this is just an option for Makati and LP. May sarili talagang batas :rofl: Now they are thinking of implementing this on EDSA only.

If I am not mistaken, pag taga LP ka tapos coding ung car mo, they will let you go.

[Tunaflakes]

Ikaw, have you tried to compare how much you spend if you bring your car or use public transport?

If I use our small car to go to Makati everyday from Lipa, then that means 450 gas, 70(star toll 2 way), 50 (ACTEX 2way), 428 (SLEX 2way). Sums to more or less 1000 a day. If I use our bigger car then that would definitely range from 1300-1500.

If I commute, that 198 (JAM Liner 2 way w/ discount since I travel everyday), 45 (Tricy 2 way), 24 (Bus from Mayapis to Ayala). Sums to less than 300 I think.

If you guys are on my shoes then I know you'd commute everyday like me, but y'all live in the metro, if I was still in the metro I'd take my car to work everyday just to make myself comfortable. Super hassle ang public transpo ng Pinas. Good thing the provicial lines are improving their services. hehe

[renzo_d10]

Kaya magiging mabili na naman mga 2 nd hand cars

Ya. Tao bibili ng 2nd hand cars. So ma-bypass nila yun bagong rule.

Is it effective? No.

Eh kung bawasan yung bus. Kahit marami pambili operator, di na pwede.

Luluwag EDSA.

Is it effective? Yes.

[_Cathy_]

Kaya magiging mabili na naman mga 2 nd hand cars

Yun na nga

If I am not mistaken, pag taga LP ka tapos coding ung car mo, they will let you go.

You mean outside of Las Pinas wala silang coding?

Mukhang may chance ma implement. MMDA is all over the news with this 4 number coding scheme

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[macsd]

so if approve coding will be:

Monday: 1 2 3 4

Tuesday: 5 6 7 8

Wednesday: 9 0 1 2

Thursday: 3 4 5 6

Friday: 7 8 9 0

2 day coding per week na.

"Ok ito, meron akong bagong justification to buy another car" that being said, the end result is madadagdagan lalo ang dami ng sasakyan, hindi cya mababawasan as the chairman imagine it to be. The problem with the chairman is, he is a lawyer and politician. Ang kailangan sa MMDA is a technocrat and a person with out political identity. He can start with the basic, implement the law where the law applies at kahit sinong tamaan. Ang problema, lahat ay may protection, ang mga bus & jeepney drivers protectado ng mga MMDA officer at police. Ang mga side walk vendors at tricycle, kapit nila mayor, vice-mayor, councilor etc...konti na nga lang ang kalye, sinara pa dahil ginawang palengke, binarikadahan ng mga squater, nilagyan ng tent para maginuman sa kalye (famous ito sa makati at manila). So where is the political will when the basic eh cannot be addressed.

Dapat kay chairman, bumalik na ng tagaytay, his only good in a small town. Yung nga trapik sa tagaytay na umaabot hangang nasugbu during weekends hindi ma resolve-resolve when the only problem is vehicle tends to slow down before the crossing ng Mendez. Napakadali ng root cause, walang gumagawa ng solution. That is where the chairman's performance even before being appointed to MMDA.

[_Cathy_]

so if approve coding will be:

Monday: 1 2 3 4

Tuesday: 5 6 7 8

Wednesday: 9 0 1 2

Thursday: 3 4 5 6

Friday: 7 8 9 0

2 day coding per week na.

Malas ng mga tao na yung main car and coding car parehong coding. Eg pag 1 ang main car at 3 ang coding car mo. Hindi ka talaga makakalabas ng Monday. You need to buy a third car.

My ending numbers allow me to alternate my main and coding car to avoid and not need a third car. Eg 1 and 8

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[Mguy]

The reason the target the cars because it is currently the most ineffective way of moving people. You have say 1 car the size of a Fortuner or Montero and its only transporting 1 or 2 persons. But since we have the most ineffective mass transportation system, people tend to use cars. However, one doesn't mean to justify the other. Both are wrong. This is just like living in Los Angeles where people love their cars.

I'm fine with trying this out but I wish they make the morning window start at 8pm. Why? Because all of the ones avoiding the ban tend to go out earlier and compete space with the school bus and other cars that bring the kids to school. Another thing is its crazy to go to the office at 7am. Its just too early. Dropping the car numbers to 40% by 8am is enough time for most cars that need to be at work by 9am.

But this would be better if they could implement the other things at the same time:

1. Reduce the buses and jeepneys plying EDSA, specially those provincial buses.
2. Avoid bus stops at known choke points (Boni, Guadalupe, etc)
3. Replace current buses with the low floor variety that has more standing room than chairs.
4. Close the U-turn under the Buendia flyover so no need to do a morning counterflow at the Estrella flyover.

Among with other wonderful suggestions our fellow tsikoteers have.