MMDA Chairman Tolentino's "brilliant" Ideas to Solve Traffic Problem in MM

[jut703]

I agree with Tolentino's vision to reduce congestion by placing restrictions on private cars. Totoo naman yung sinabi niya that they outnumber PUVs by a large number. As the saying goes, "a successful country is not where the poor have cars, but where the rich take public transportation." Yun nga lang, this is a long-run thing, and it assumes that the public transpo system works well, which obviously isn't the case.

As has been pointed out earlier, increasing the MRT/LRT capacity is a key point of action. From what I've heard, they're currently assembling trains to be shipped here and is expected to roll out in the next 2 years. I also think that they should increase MRT/LRT fares, at least double of what they are now. We commuters have been spoiled too much with cheap fares, and it has resulted in overcrowded trains and dilapidated facilities.

Buses are another big problem, especially along EDSA. While private cars far outnumber buses, the latter often create huge bottlenecks in traffic because of the unruly way that their drivers ply through the roads - stopping anywhere, hogging lanes, overstaying at bus stops, etc.

It's easy to say that we should simply reduce the number of buses on EDSA - but if you're a commuter, you'd know that during rush hours, kulang pa yung mga bus na yan especially on the LRT Ayala - SM Fairview route. What we need is proper scheduling of buses. During off-peak hours, these buses are really inefficient as they only have about a dozen people on board. However, that's still a dozen people worth of extra income and apparently that's enough to offset costs and earn a few hundreds per trip. It's not optimal, pero kita pa rin yan, and since noone's regulating these bus operators, they'll let their buses travel for as long as it generates positive income, no matter how tiny.

Ang problema, you can only really control bus scheduling if you reduce the number of operators to a handful, or better yet, have the government run the bus networks entirely. Neither is gonna happen anytime soon, at least not until someone has the balls to go against the padrino/palakasan system in getting franchises.

Ultimately, these are all big steps that when properly implemented, will surely help alleviate the traffic. However, the probability of these pushing through is very low. The most feasible thing that can be done now is really proper implementation of road rules.

[a9828]

so if approve coding will be:

Monday: 1 2 3 4

Tuesday: 5 6 7 8

Wednesday: 9 0 1 2

Thursday: 3 4 5 6

Friday: 7 8 9 0

2 day coding per week na.

hassle to but this might actually be the easiest to implement. better na yan than yung dati (odd-even scheme). pero siyempre, ayusin muna yung strict and consistent traffic enforcement.

alternatively, additional guidelines na puwede: 7-7 bawal talaga (no window), no exemptions whatsoever lahat talaga ng tsikots kapag coding (window or wala) maski ano pa plaka mo

[xander1925]

^Gawin nalang niya opposite, tignan natin kung taffic pa ha.

M - 1 and 2 lang pwede sa kalye
T - 3 and 4 lang pwede sa kalye
W- 5 and 6 lang pwede sa kalye
Th- 7 and 8 lang pwede sa kalye
F - 9 and 0 lang pwede sa kalye

Pag ganyan.. Mag bike na lang tayong lahat...ha ha ha Dapat ganyan din ang bus, jeep, motor at trycicle

Or another alternative is...

Mag set sila ng araw araw may laban si pacquiao he he he

[Manilablock]

so if approve coding will be:

Monday: 1 2 3 4

Tuesday: 5 6 7 8

Wednesday: 9 0 1 2

Thursday: 3 4 5 6

Friday: 7 8 9 0

2 day coding per week na.

Wala yan, gamit ka ng vanity plate or ung tinted na plate cover, lusot ka na sa TE.

Private car ka, you only use the road to go from A to B, most of the day naka park ka lang, so ang impact mo sa traffic e minimal lang, kasi kahit nung time na naka park ang car mo traffic pa din.

Para ma solve ang traffic, si Chairman Tolentino dapat pagbawalan gumamit ng car papasok at pauwi from office, mag public transpo lang sha pati na din ung mga traffic engineers nya. Kung hindi nya kaya umalis na sha sa MMDA para makahanap ng qualified person for the job.

Me kasabihan nga na hindi mo makita ang problema kung hindi mo naman na experience.

[Manilablock]

double post

[_Cathy_]

^Gawin nalang niya opposite, tignan natin kung taffic pa ha.

M - 1 and 2 lang pwede sa kalye
T - 3 and 4 lang pwede sa kalye
W- 5 and 6 lang pwede sa kalye
Th- 7 and 8 lang pwede sa kalye
F - 9 and 0 lang pwede sa kalye

Ha ha ha!!! Work from home na lang lahat. Maglakad na lang ako going to work. Pag dating ko sa office coated in dust na ko.

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[cast_no_shadow]

Kahit ano pang i-implement, wala din yan kung walang disiplina.

laking bagay kung may disiplina lahat ng motorista.

araw araw na pagmamaneho mo kitang kita naman na kulang tayo sa disiplina

mapa private man o public drivers.

im thinking what can change that? Meron kaya?

[_Cathy_]

I also think that they should increase MRT/LRT fares, at least double of what they are now. We commuters have been spoiled too much with cheap fares, and it has resulted in overcrowded trains and dilapidated facilities..

I think so too but a lot of people would disagree on this.

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[jut703]

I think so too but a lot of people would disagree on this.

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Kasi nga na-spoil na, akala nila tamang presyo lang yun di nila alam sobra sobra na yung subsidy.

This is where kailangan talaga ng iron fist - whoever will push for the price increase will inevitably be a dark knight, the man that everyone hates, but the one that we need.

[viper888]

I know this will be hugely unpopular, what if we heavily tax gasoline like other European nations, then the gains from that should be used in the improvement of public transportation
I mean p70 for gasoline should lessen traffic whilst increasing the tax revenues of the government
This scheme will just have us buying more cars, really idiotic

[_Cathy_]

Kasi nga na-spoil na, akala nila tamang presyo lang yun di nila alam sobra sobra na yung subsidy.

This is where kailangan talaga ng iron fist - whoever will push for the price increase will inevitably be a dark knight, the man that everyone hates, but the one that we need.

Some people view this as an elitist anti-masses solution kasi. But we cannot keep the fare at that level forever. MRT has been operating at a loss for several years already diba? It's hard to improve the facilities and service given that situation.

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[_Cathy_]

I know this will be hugely unpopular, what if we heavily tax gasoline like other European nations, then the gains from that should be used in the improvement of public transportation
I mean p70 for gasoline should lessen traffic whilst increasing the tax revenues of the government
This scheme will just have us buying more cars, really idiotic

I remember when gas prices almost reached P60,or nag 60 ba? It was so easy to find parking around the office. Not much cars on the road too.

I am not for this proposal though because the taxes will most likely not be used for the improvement of public transpo. It will go to corruption na naman

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[jcRN]

Kasi nga na-spoil na, akala nila tamang presyo lang yun di nila alam sobra sobra na yung subsidy.

This is where kailangan talaga ng iron fist - whoever will push for the price increase will inevitably be a dark knight, the man that everyone hates, but the one that we need.

this calls for another Marcos regime, at least disiplinado ang tao, ang loloko loko hulihin agad.

[wezz_zzew]

I know this will be hugely unpopular, what if we heavily tax gasoline like other European nations, then the gains from that should be used in the improvement of public transportation
I mean p70 for gasoline should lessen traffic whilst increasing the tax revenues of the government
This scheme will just have us buying more cars, really idiotic

EDIT: Ang problema d2 is tatamaan lahat ng industry. Lahat magmamahal dahil tataas ang production cost. Sa totoo lang, sapat naman ung mga taxes na nakukuha ng government. Ang problema lang is, hindi lahat naka record at kaya di pumapasok sa kaban ng bayan.

*C4U: Mas maganda nga gawin hanggang 10pm ung coding eh para may dahilan ako kas esmi na di pa ako makakauwi. Friday pa naman ang coding ko, gimik day.

[_Cathy_]

Huwag naman 10 pm. Kawawa nagiintay sa coding. Hehe. Hassle naman ng Friday coding

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[cardict]

As I have stated earlier on other thread,private vehicles are constantly moving from point A to B,just like a river flowing continuously,bumabagal lamangan pag may boulder of rocks(buses,jeep yes picking up passengers)DISCIPLINE is the key,implement all road rules first and surely there will be improvement

[cardict]

Some people view this as an elitist anti-masses solution kasi. But we cannot keep the fare at that level forever. MRT has been operating at a loss for several years already diba? It's hard to improve the facilities and service given that situation.

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1000% agree with this,80% of riding public does'nt know the word subsidy,sasabihin pa ng mga leftist kawawa naman ang masa

[glenn manikis]

As I have stated earlier on other thread,private vehicles are constantly moving from point A to B,just like a river flowing continuously,bumabagal lamangan pag may boulder of rocks(buses,jeep yes picking up passengers)DISCIPLINE is the key,implement all road rules first and surely there will be improvement

tama ka dyan... private vehicles point A TO B lang... than that's it for us the whole day, more or less 45 mins. lang sila sa road sa umaga ganun din sa gabi..

Unlike public utility vehicles na pa ikot ikot sa kalsada kung lumabas yan ng 5am hangang 9pm ata sila sa kalsada... then nakaharang sa flow ng traffic...

kahit mas madami pa ang private vehicles, hindi naman tayo humaharang at nagtatagal sa kalsada, dapat implement lang nila yan sa PUV.. at ang mga PUV naman talaga ang cause ng traffic sa kalsada.

[wezz_zzew]

Huwag naman 10 pm. Kawawa nagiintay sa coding. Hehe. Hassle naman ng Friday coding

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Ok lang yung ganun. If you don't want to wait until 10pm eh di dont bring your car on that day.
Madami nagsasabi na hassle nga ung friday coding pero para sa akin mas maganda dahil sa gabi naman talaga usually nagsisimula ang kasiyahan.
Para sa akin Monday ang pinaka hassle na coding. Nakakatamad na nga pumasok tapos magcocommute ka pa. Pag lunes pa naman mas madami sasakyan kc nagbabalikan na ung mga umuwi ng provinces.

[JohnM]

this calls for another Marcos regime, at least disiplinado ang tao, ang loloko loko hulihin agad.

Except kung crony ka ;) So maglalabasan na naman mga wangwang at mga trigger-happy bodyguard (kuno). Nevermind.