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  1. Join Date
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    #1551
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    Trooper
    160bhp * 3900rpm / 333Nm * 2000rpm

    Innova
    102bhp * 3600rpm / 260Nm * 2000rpm

    Fortuner
    163bhp * 3400rpm / 343Nm * 1400-3200rpm

    Comparing the Fortuner & Trooper, hindi nagkakalayo ang non-CRDi & CRDi. No contest when you compare it with the Innova.



    Are you sure that the Innova / Fortuner / Hi-Lux won't suffer the same fate?
    Comparing Isuzu Trooper and Isuzu Hilander for example, I heard Isuzu Trooper has 3 or 4 incidence of faulty Injectors, but Hilander has fewer or almost none. Both are from Isuzu. But I think both vehicles did not use the same Injector sets. I hope MAZDAMAZDA understands what I mean.

    Ok, will Toyota suffer the same fate? We all don't know for sure, maybe mazdamazda will know, tell us naman mazdamazda.

    One more thing mazdamazda, Trooper,Fortuner, Innova, what we are comparing here is the diesel injectors not the horsepower nor the torque, we are focusing on the problems experienced on the vehicles(like Trooper). Of course Fortuner and Innova has yet to be seen since its quite new in the market. Peace be with you mazdamazda.

  2. Join Date
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    #1552
    I chose diesel because:

    1. Mas matipid ang diesel fuel kesa gasoline plus more mileage, 9.5 km/l. sa city and
    13-14 km/l. sa highway.
    2. Mas malakas sa akyatan lalo na kapag full load ng passengers.
    3. And also naka turbo charge pa and diesel engine ng Innova, ang bilis sa highway.
    4. And lastly, mas madaling ibenta after 5 years at mas maganda re sale value.

    Kaya I suggest you go for the diesel engine innova kahit medyo mas mataas ang price.

  3. Join Date
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    #1553
    Quote Originally Posted by Innova_Boy
    Jonels Seat Cover 252-1074, 252-5144, 255-4559..

    Just bought the carpet type floor matting 2.5k last week... ok naman siya grey color...

    I'm talking to them the price of leather seat cover same design as of monseratto fortuner pics on other thread...

    WBR,
    Innova_Boy,
    Yung matting bang binili mo is the one with rubber at the bottom and with spikes? I saw one kasi sa isang shop offering such kind of matting

  4. Join Date
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    #1554
    Yes, that's the same one being sold at otis for 5k...

    WBR,

  5. Join Date
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    #1555
    Quote Originally Posted by bongliza
    here below is the SRP as of 20 june....

    Note : Innova J tumaas na...

    Toyota Suggested Retail Price List
    As of June 20, 2005
    TMP Mktg. VSD Product Planning
    MODEL VARIANT New SRP

    New INNOVA 2.5 G Dsl A/T 1,030,000
    2.0 G Gas A/T 970,000
    2.5 G Dsl M/T 965,000
    2.0 G Gas M/T 915,000
    2.5 E Dsl M/T 865,000
    2.5 J Dsl M/T 778,000
    2.0 J Gas M/T 728,000
    Marami daw order sa J-Variant, so Toyota nagsamantala.

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    #1556
    Marami daw order sa J-Variant, so Toyota nagsamantala.
    buti na lang, di ko inabot yung price increase..

  7. Join Date
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    #1557
    Quote Originally Posted by meier
    I choose Innova J gas over diesel bec.

    1. P50k savings. difference ng gas and diesel nasa P2.5 - P3 na lang eh.. mileage ng gas ang diesel di na rin naman nagkakalayo sa gas - approx of 10km/L(my consumption) and diesel - approx of 14km/L. With a yearly mileage of 13000km (based sa old car namin) it would take us 5yrs bago ma-used up yung savings na P50k.
    .

    I made some rough computation. The P50k difference is not really a savings if you would consider the resale values. So, I think your 5-year assumption is not correct. It is still cheaper to have a diesel engine from day 1. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    #1558
    TO those who have leather seat covers...

    MAyron ba foam and net twine sa underside ng leather seat covers niyo?? pics attached.. this is to protect the orig seat covers( moquette) of our car...

    WBR,

  9. Join Date
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    #1559
    Quote Originally Posted by Innova_Boy
    TO those who have leather seat covers...

    MAyron ba foam and net twine sa underside ng leather seat covers niyo?? pics attached.. this is to protect the orig seat covers( moquette) of our car...

    WBR,
    yung sa akin meron. pang protection pala ito akala ko para mas malambot at maganda lang tignan kaya nila nilalagyan ng foam

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    #1560
    Quote Originally Posted by geebunny
    I made some rough computation. The P50k difference is not really a savings if you would consider the resale values. So, I think your 5-year assumption is not correct. It is still cheaper to have a diesel engine from day 1. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    This is my personal version why diesel engine is more economical.
    Let's take these considerations:
    No. of years of usage : 5 yrs.
    Average km/day : 91.31 kms (based on 100T km in 3 years warranty)
    Average Km/L with corresponding Price/Liter:
    Gas: 9Km/L, PhP 29.50/Liter
    Diesel: 12Km/L, PhP 27.50/Liter
    Accumulated Km in 5 years =166,666 Km
    Consumption:
    Gas: 166,666 Km/ 9 Km/L X 29.50 PhP/L = PhP 546,294.09
    Diesel: 166,666 Km/ 12 Km/L X 27.50 PhP/L = PhP 381,943.00

    Based on these results, PhP164,351 can be saved on diesel.

    However, to brake the Php 50,000 difference between gas & diesel, the accumulated Km should be approximately 50,704.175 Km.

    Gas : 50,704.175 Km/ 9 Km/L X 29.50 PhP/L = PhP 166,197.01
    Diesel: 50,704.175 Km/ 12 Km/L X 27.50 PhP/L = PhP 116,197.06
    The difference is PhP 50,000.

    Mga bro, this is just my personal approach based on fuel consumption only. This excludes maintenance, resale value and other things. Any version are most welcome here.
    Last edited by busy road; June 17th, 2005 at 03:02 PM.

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