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    #2981
    Quote Originally Posted by IPSG_Hottie
    Any other more helpful advice? I'm not really a techie when it comes to engines. Drive lang kse alam ko eh. What I was able to absorb is that this Innova problem is pertaining to all DIESEL variants only. Am i right? If so, that means I'm ok if we buy the GAS variant? :question:

    Thanks!!!
    Do you really want Innova?I test drive my friends Innova G GAS variant m/t i drove it from Pulilan to Valenzuela NLEX nakakapanibago kasi diesel yong Innova ko and i observe that Diesel variant pla is more responsive than the gas variant
    (no offense to gas owner's)Diesel D4d of Innova is a trouble maker naman.
    Why dont you try Suzuki Grand Vitara or Wait for the Mitsu. Zinger

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    #2982
    Musta na mga pre!! Innova G Gas M/T is almost 3k na odo but no problem watsoever!! It's all thank to you guys na nagshare ng info regarding d4d engine problems dahil kung nagkataon e D4d rin ang nakuha namin.

    O nga pla..regarding din dun sa responsiveness ng D4d compare to VVti e i think its natural kc sobrang lakas ng torque ng d4d compare to vvti and the d4d can attain its maximum torque faster at 1,400rpm ata which means full power na ang torque nung d4d while the vvti must reach 5800rpm to reach it's max torque which is still lesser compare to d4d's torque. Malakas talaga ang hatak pag d4d kahit pa puno to. Pls. correct me if im mistaken...theory lng pow toh. IMHO

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    #2983
    Quote Originally Posted by bongliza
    Lord, meyron bang naiba sa performance in terms of hatak/acceleration/etc after the repair? 12K km na ODO but so far I've not encountered any unusual choking/stalling. I'm just worry maybe someday I'll be the next victim. Demn, nagkamali yata ako ng nabiling sasakyan.
    Waka nman... same pa din...
    Gumanda pa nga ang hatak eh...

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    #2984
    Mga dude, please refer to me a fully synthetic oil that is cheap. One of the tsikoteers here does sell Mobil 1 at 300 but currently he doest not have stock.

    If I cannot find one, im thinking to purchase the synthetic blend delo sport from caltex at 320. Can this last for 10K before next oil change? Please advise.

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    #2985
    Shell Helix Ultra he he he

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    #2986
    Quote Originally Posted by busy road
    Bro, any indication that they will recall all D4D units? In my opinion, if the same case has not been encountered for a certain percentage of the total sales, I doubt no action from their side will be expected. However, any idea from you GUYS who have the idea how much the percentage of failure?
    I agree because as per the latest Innova sales report last October 2005, more than 10,145 units have been sold.(see tsikot cartalk section). Now,conservatively granting that 70% of all units sold are D4D innovas that would amount to 7,101 units of D4D innovas all over the country. If you add 60% of all the Fortuners,Hi-ace and Hi-lux pick-ups which also use D4D engines that would maybe total to about 11,400 D4D engines out there.
    Now, if we could just get 10% of the total which is 1,140 D4D's to stall or fail, maybe we can convince Toyota to issue a recall of the engines, but if obviously we can see that only a few not even 1% or 114 units are experiencing this problem then I think if would be difficult to force Toyota to issue a recall of the D4D's, they would just reason that these D4D's are just the factory defects(lemons) which is just within the normal percentage for any manufacturing company

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    #2987
    Quote Originally Posted by larshell
    Do you really want Innova?I test drive my friends Innova G GAS variant m/t i drove it from Pulilan to Valenzuela NLEX nakakapanibago kasi diesel yong Innova ko and i observe that Diesel variant pla is more responsive than the gas variant
    (no offense to gas owner's)Diesel D4d of Innova is a trouble maker naman.
    Why dont you try Suzuki Grand Vitara or Wait for the Mitsu. Zinger
    ung engine ba ng gas na innova un din ung engine nung REVO?

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    #2988
    guys, any idea how much is the hub cup and the mags for g variant.

    yupi na kasi ang hub cup and was wondering how much will it cost to replace or change into mag wheels.

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    #2989
    INNOVA J owners,

    My cousin is thinking to buy a J variant but is thinking twice because if the lack of rear wiper... he experienced driving my G model innova and found out that during heavy rains, especially at night, dirt will cover the rear window and the rear wiper is very helpful.

    May I know what's the experience for you guys with the J models? How much is the rear wiper at cassa compared to other car shops?

    Thanks

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    #2990
    Quote Originally Posted by IPSG_Hottie
    Any other more helpful advice? I'm not really a techie when it comes to engines. Drive lang kse alam ko eh. What I was able to absorb is that this Innova problem is pertaining to all DIESEL variants only. Am i right? If so, that means I'm ok if we buy the GAS variant? :question:

    Thanks!!!
    Get the gas variant if you're serious in buying Innova. My odo is now 18,000 kms. and no problem so far.

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    #2991
    Quote Originally Posted by j_avonni
    Get the gas variant if you're serious in buying Innova. My odo is now 18,000 kms. and no problem so far.
    Thanks, j_avonni! I'll take your word for it.

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    #2992
    Quote Originally Posted by larshell
    Do you really want Innova?I test drive my friends Innova G GAS variant m/t i drove it from Pulilan to Valenzuela NLEX nakakapanibago kasi diesel yong Innova ko and i observe that Diesel variant pla is more responsive than the gas variant
    (no offense to gas owner's)Diesel D4d of Innova is a trouble maker naman.
    Why dont you try Suzuki Grand Vitara or Wait for the Mitsu. Zinger
    Can't wait anymore eh. Need to buy soon na. We actually decided to buy an Innova. Gusto ko lang umiwas dito sa D4D issue na nababasa ko here sa tsikot Innova thread (which I know nothing about ). Our Toyota dealer is telling us nothing. So now i know it's just the diesel variant that has the problem.

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    #2993
    Hi Guys,

    I noticed in my Innova J na one of the rear wheels eh mas nakausli palabas kesa don sa isa when you view it from the back. Has anyone also noticed this in their ride?

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    #2994
    Quote Originally Posted by IPSG_Hottie
    Can't wait anymore eh. Need to buy soon na. We actually decided to buy an Innova. Gusto ko lang umiwas dito sa D4D issue na nababasa ko here sa tsikot Innova thread (which I know nothing about . Our Toyota dealer is telling us nothing. So now i know it's just the diesel variant that has the problem.
    The biggest bane in all things we do is to go out "rushing" and only to learn it was a mistake after all. Always remember this: Haste makes waste. Wait for the fog to settle before making your move, otherwise you might regret it later on.

    AFAIK, more people are buying D4-D engine Innovas. Although recently, I have been seeing more new Innova (no plates yet) that are powered by the vvti engine. (People are probably hearing about the D4-D problems)

    The ongoing problem with the D4-D will not last forever, just wait for Toyota to sort things out. If it were up to me, I'll wait for the D4-D's problems to be sorted out.

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    #2995
    Quote Originally Posted by lord
    INNOVA J owners,

    My cousin is thinking to buy a J variant but is thinking twice because if the lack of rear wiper... he experienced driving my G model innova and found out that during heavy rains, especially at night, dirt will cover the rear window and the rear wiper is very helpful.

    May I know what's the experience for you guys with the J models? How much is the rear wiper at cassa compared to other car shops?

    Thanks
    Just a thought...

    AFAIK, the Innova J does not have a provision for the rear wiper therefore a hole will have to be manually (crudely?) bored out of the rear hatch door. I'm not comfortable with having someone outside of the factory doing this.

    I dont have an Innova but my experience with vehicles with rear hatch door are that it is useful to have a rear wiper since dirt/mud/grime (through road sprays) tend to accumulate and could obscure vision esp. when driving on a rainy/rain drenched highways for hours.

    Ask your cousin to consider the "E" variant since it comes with the rear wiper already. Or if budget allows, go for the "G" variant vvti if s/he is thinking of avoiding the D4-D engine.

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    #2996
    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    Just a thought...

    AFAIK, the Innova J does not have a provision for the rear wiper therefore a hole will have to be manually (crudely?) bored out of the rear hatch door. I'm not comfortable with having someone outside of the factory doing this.

    I dont have an Innova but my experience with vehicles with rear hatch door are that it is useful to have a rear wiper since dirt/mud/grime (through road sprays) tend to accumulate and could obscure vision esp. when driving on a rainy/rain drenched highways for hours.

    Ask your cousin to consider the "E" variant since it comes with the rear wiper already. Or if budget allows, go for the "G" variant vvti if s/he is thinking of avoiding the D4-D engine.

    I already asked about this last month from Toyota makati and they told me that there were a lot of inquiries regarding rear wipers for Innova J. They are still trying to determine how the entire rear wiper system can be installed but its possible naman raw kasi may "naka-abang" raw na para sa ganon sa Innova J. Need to inquire about this again from the casa kung naisip na nila. Tapos I will post the answer in the forum,

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    #2997
    yipee!!!! naka 300 pages na tayo!!! keep the posts coming.

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    #2998
    Quote Originally Posted by lord
    INNOVA J owners,

    My cousin is thinking to buy a J variant but is thinking twice because if the lack of rear wiper... he experienced driving my G model innova and found out that during heavy rains, especially at night, dirt will cover the rear window and the rear wiper is very helpful.

    May I know what's the experience for you guys with the J models? How much is the rear wiper at cassa compared to other car shops?

    Thanks
    pahiran mo lang ng RAIN-X yung rear window. i use it on my fortuner and it helps a lot.

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    #2999
    Quote Originally Posted by beebs
    pahiran mo lang ng RAIN-X yung rear window. i use it on my fortuner and it helps a lot.
    I think this is not applicable when you are driving in a rainy night lalo na sa malayuang byahe.. you have to rely on those 2 side mirrors a lot.

    Or you need to drop frequently on every gas station para mgpalinis ng salamin =)

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    #3000
    ALa na ba good news to come for all Innova lovers soon?? O puro na lang bad news especially for D4D owners...


    WBR,

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