All New 2013 Toyota Vios (3rd Gen)

[homhomnova]

i do not think you were scammed. the gadget delivered what you wanted it to do... a more responsive throttle.
but i agree... you probably did not really need it that badly; a livelier right foot would have delivered the same result.. parang power steering or brake booster lang yan.. mas madaling lumiko o mag-stop..

Actually.. yes.. i agree.. if the driving style is gas pedal to the metal then throttle controller is not for them.. the idea of throttle controller is.. just a slight press on gas pedal the engine is more responsive.. and my right foot is just light on gas pedal and my f/c for a 2.0 vvti Innova 2013 at is 6.9-7.0km/l pure city driving light to moderate traffic and the sprint booster is always set to sports mode.. the only disadvantage i think is.. i have to be more cautious especially in traffic because just a slight press on gas pedal the car is very eager to move forward.. no more delay.. just sharing my experience..

Btw.. yung isang officemate ko nagpakabit din sya.. tuwang tuwa sa resulta ng performance.. 2014 Vios 1.5 G AT unit nya

[dr. d]

Actually.. yes.. i agree.. if the driving style is gas pedal to the metal then throttle controller is not for them.. the idea of throttle controller is.. just a slight press on gas pedal the engine is more responsive.. and my right foot is just light on gas pedal and my f/c for a 2.0 vvti Innova 2013 at is 6.9-7.0km/l pure city driving light to moderate traffic and the sprint booster is always set to sports mode.. the only disadvantage i think is.. i have to be more cautious especially in traffic because just a slight press on gas pedal the car is very eager to move forward.. no more delay.. just sharing my experience..

Btw.. yung isang officemate ko nagpakabit din sya.. tuwang tuwa sa resulta ng performance.. 2014 Vios 1.5 G AT unit nya

i have experience in sentra and toyota. my sentra had a more responsive pedal, and is a reason (i suspect) for its hungrier engine. i liked the toyota, because the throttle was longer and i could control it better,. it also ate gas less..

[arriachey]

My fuel consumption (ODO at less than 3K):

Anong apps po to? Merob ba yan sa ios? Thanks

[kimbon]

2010 model is fine. but the point of my comment was, is there something "wrong" with the new vios? why are many people complaining about little kinks in it? are today's customers more discriminating, or, is this just the product of easier communication, courtesy of the internet? that the older models had many problems also, only at that time, people were not gung ho into internet...

I was commenting your last sentence below in bold fonts... Cheers!!! Have a blessed sunday am

i am beginning to get the impression that the new vios is a "bit of a lemon".. is this true, or is the buyer now a more demanding lot? ini-isip ko na tuloy na imbes na kumuha ng bago, ay maghanap na lang ako ng alagang 2004 or 2005 vios...

[monkeybone1k]

I'd rather have CAI installed together with aftermarket headers and mufflers than those so called Sprint Booster.




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[shibby75]

Sprint booster and throttle controller does not make your car go fast.


It just removes the lag of the eelctronic throttle and gives a more responsive control.

I have the e shadow throttle controller on my innova, with sports max setting, just a blip on the throttle on idle will redline the engine .

[homhomnova]

Sprint booster and throttle controller does not make your car go fast.


It just removes the lag of the eelctronic throttle and gives a more responsive control.

I have the e shadow throttle controller on my innova, with sports max setting, just a blip on the throttle on idle will redline the engine .

Tumbok mo sir..

[harryacay]

Question po. Since di pa ako pwede mag HID light pwede po kaya eto sa headlamp ko? Philips CrystalVision. Sa blade ko sya nakita and parang plug and play daw sya according to them. Not sure if pwede ba to sa car ko. Projector lamp po yung sakin 1.5G M/T. Need your advice po bago ko sya bilihin later. TIA (this is.not the.exact item pero parang ganito po sya)

[artsky]

^^ hopefully it is indeed plug and play but doesn't cause glare to other motorist. important kasi yung proper cut-off ng ilaw para walang glare. visit the "hid projector retrofits by garyq" thread.

[harryacay]

^^ hopefully it is indeed plug and play but doesn't cause glare to other motorist. important kasi yung proper cut-off ng ilaw para walang glare. visit the "hid projector retrofits by garyq" thread.

but this wont void the warranty naman po right? Thanks for responding

[artsky]

but this wont void the warranty naman po right? Thanks for responding

not sure po. let's wait for others' opinion.

[jhnkvn]

Question po. Since di pa ako pwede mag HID light pwede po kaya eto sa headlamp ko? Philips CrystalVision. Sa blade ko sya nakita and parang plug and play daw sya according to them. Not sure if pwede ba to sa car ko. Projector lamp po yung sakin 1.5G M/T. Need your advice po bago ko sya bilihin later. TIA (this is.not the.exact item pero parang ganito po sya)

Isn't that a bit too cheap?

[jhnkvn]

i do not think you were scammed. the gadget delivered what you wanted it to do... a more responsive throttle.
but i agree... you probably did not really need it that badly; a livelier right foot would have delivered the same result.. parang power steering or brake booster lang yan.. mas madaling lumiko o mag-stop..

True true. I might have phrased it a bit too harshly. However, it should be clear what your expectations of the product should be. Don't expect any rising torque or horsepower figures. It simply modifies the vehicle's throttle modulation.

Sprint booster and throttle controller does not make your car go fast.

It just removes the lag of the eelctronic throttle and gives a more responsive control.

I have the e shadow throttle controller on my innova, with sports max setting, just a blip on the throttle on idle will redline the engine .

I'm also skeptical on "removing lag of electronic throttles". From my point, that's simply a marketing term. Think back to your elementary science -- how do you make electrons move faster? Diba?

If we look at it at a pure technical terms, adding a performance chip in between the circuit actually increases the delay because you need to receive the signal, decode it, modify it, and then re-transmit it. Of course, all of this happens in a few milliseconds so the delay can't be perceived really.

So to summarize what it does is that it simply tells the ECU that the throttle is pushed more than it is. If you're doing 10% throttle at a certain push, now it's tell you you're doing 20. That's where the perceived "responsiveness" is.

For the more mechanically inclined Vios owners out there, you might be better going for a lightweight flywheel instead which increases RPM rev response and that kinda translates to a better "throttle response" too.

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Sorry folks. Not trying to make a fuss about it but I'm here trying to enlighten people before they go on using their money at products that might fail their expectations as I know some fellow Tsikoteers who did.

[harryacay]

Isn't that a bit too cheap?

Totally have no idea. I know HID would cost around 5k. But im limited to this one because i still cant tap the wirings else it will void the warranty. This is the item they're suggesting at blade. The somewhat similar to HID but its plug and play. Price is around 2.8k. Yea its cheap but i think its my only option since i wanted a white headlight for my projector lamp. 😉

[shibby75]

So to summarize what it does is that it simply tells the ECU that the throttle is pushed more than it is. If you're doing 10% throttle at a certain push, now it's tell you you're doing 20. That's where the perceived "responsiveness" is.



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Your answer sums it all up. Toyota induces the lag to give better fuel consumption especially on lead footed drivers. Thats why lag is more evident on 1.3 model.

[Marvz077]

Im planning to get the 1.3J variant, ano po ba ang difference ng interior ng 1.3J and 1.3E? In terms of door trimmings, dashboard and other stuffs.


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[pingyaw]

True true. I might have phrased it a bit too harshly. However, it should be clear what your expectations of the product should be. Don't expect any rising torque or horsepower figures. It simply modifies the vehicle's throttle modulation.



I'm also skeptical on "removing lag of electronic throttles". From my point, that's simply a marketing term. Think back to your elementary science -- how do you make electrons move faster? Diba?

If we look at it at a pure technical terms, adding a performance chip in between the circuit actually increases the delay because you need to receive the signal, decode it, modify it, and then re-transmit it. Of course, all of this happens in a few milliseconds so the delay can't be perceived really.

So to summarize what it does is that it simply tells the ECU that the throttle is pushed more than it is. If you're doing 10% throttle at a certain push, now it's tell you you're doing 20. That's where the perceived "responsiveness" is.

For the more mechanically inclined Vios owners out there, you might be better going for a lightweight flywheel instead which increases RPM rev response and that kinda translates to a better "throttle response" too.

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Sorry folks. Not trying to make a fuss about it but I'm here trying to enlighten people before they go on using their money at products that might fail their expectations as I know some fellow Tsikoteers who did.

They forgot how electron flow and accelarator boosters cost arm and leg to some of us.we applied tesla principles to reduce accelaration lag.Nakabili na kasi sila kaya wala magawa o depensa na lang sa sarili.

[smallbig]

Im planning to get the 1.3J variant, ano po ba ang difference ng interior ng 1.3J and 1.3E? In terms of door trimmings, dashboard and other stuffs.


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Halos wala. Sa labas lang, black ang door handles at side mirror ng J, body color naman sa E. Naka-mags ang E, steel rims naman na may hubcap ang J. Saka may foglamps ang E.

[chris_d]

Halos wala. Sa labas lang, black ang door handles at side mirror ng J, body color naman sa E. Naka-mags ang E, steel rims naman na may hubcap ang J.

No fog lamp sa J, 1-din stereo compared sa integrated sa E, 2 speakers instead of 4. Wala din daw mirror sa visor. J din balak ko kunin pero intayin ko muna yung Yaris this april bago mag decide.

[Marvz077]

No fog lamp sa J, 1-din stereo compared sa integrated sa E, 2 speakers instead of 4. Wala din daw mirror sa visor. J din balak ko kunin pero intayin ko muna yung Yaris this april bago mag decide.

Yan din advise sa kin ng agent ko, to wait for the new Yaris, pero kung di rin sya papasok sa price range ng J variant baka di rin kayanin ng budget ko.


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