All New 2013 Toyota Vios (3rd Gen)

[sirkosero]

Mahina ba talaga sa hanging ang 1.5G M/T? or Unit ko lang ang may problem.. Just find it weird na sa halip na maging easy driving lang ang pagpalit ng Vios (from 1st Gen to 3rd Gen), naging baligtad.. Eto naexperience ko simula nung nakuha ko yung Unit..

1. Blinking Indicator light (security ata yun)
2. Lag ang 3rd Gear
3. Parang wigo na may body at fuel consumption ng camry. (hirap sa hanging, mapapahand brake method ka sa sagwa)
4. Mahina sa overtaking
5. Less agile sa mga older gen. (understatement)
6. Tok sounds
7. Malakas sa gas

And after ko makaexperience ang pinakamasamang atras sa hanging (courtesy ng 3rd Gen).. Is it possible na pwede ibalik ang Unit? Parang di worth it na puro upgrade ng itsura at space lang sa expense ng downgrading yung performance.. Sorry kung medyo di maganda mga nasabi ko.. Very disappointed lang ako..

sobra naman yata na kasing lakas ng camry consumption.... owned a 2004 camry 2.0. yun talaga malakas 6km/li lang yun on moderate traffic. kung ganito consumption mo, may problema unit mo.

gen1 talaga pinaka matipid kasi sobra gaan ng body nun. (got 18km/li sa highway). gen2 naman with light traffic 12km/li. gen3 9km/li.

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[vios1.3eat_user]

Paano ba mag compute ng FC?

Is there an app? or manual compute lang?

How many of you are experiencing yung namamatayan sa hanging?

One month na vios namin, until now nasa 400++ pa lang odo, okay lang ba yun? Paano ba proper break in?

Thanks po.

Fuelio app lang

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[red_kiss13]

Mahina ba talaga sa hanging ang 1.5G M/T? or Unit ko lang ang may problem.. Just find it weird na sa halip na maging easy driving lang ang pagpalit ng Vios (from 1st Gen to 3rd Gen), naging baligtad.. Eto naexperience ko simula nung nakuha ko yung Unit..

1. Blinking Indicator light (security ata yun)
2. Lag ang 3rd Gear
3. Parang wigo na may body at fuel consumption ng camry. (hirap sa hanging, mapapahand brake method ka sa sagwa)
4. Mahina sa overtaking
5. Less agile sa mga older gen. (understatement)
6. Tok sounds
7. Malakas sa gas

And after ko makaexperience ang pinakamasamang atras sa hanging (courtesy ng 3rd Gen).. Is it possible na pwede ibalik ang Unit? Parang di worth it na puro upgrade ng itsura at space lang sa expense ng downgrading yung performance.. Sorry kung medyo di maganda mga nasabi ko.. Very disappointed lang ako..

Mukhang bad unit napunta sayo...sakin so far so good walang problema as expected max ko is 13kml/l ko pero pag trapik pinakamababa 11kml/l...pag mabigat paa talagang mababa ang fc...ang pinagsisihan ko lang is color hahahaha black kase nakuha ko hirap sa linisan ...^___^

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[dr. d]

i am beginning to get the impression that the new vios is a "bit of a lemon".. is this true, or is the buyer now a more demanding lot?
ini-isip ko na tuloy na imbes na kumuha ng bago, ay maghanap na lang ako ng alagang 2004 or 2005 vios...

[cherlie]

Sakin 14.1 km/l 370km run mas tataas pa sana kung hindi mabigat paa ko mine is a 1.5g a/t...

[homhomnova]

Mahina ba talaga sa hanging ang 1.5G M/T? or Unit ko lang ang may problem.. Just find it weird na sa halip na maging easy driving lang ang pagpalit ng Vios (from 1st Gen to 3rd Gen), naging baligtad.. Eto naexperience ko simula nung nakuha ko yung Unit..

1. Blinking Indicator light (security ata yun)
2. Lag ang 3rd Gear
3. Parang wigo na may body at fuel consumption ng camry. (hirap sa hanging, mapapahand brake method ka sa sagwa)
4. Mahina sa overtaking
5. Less agile sa mga older gen. (understatement)
6. Tok sounds
7. Malakas sa gas

And after ko makaexperience ang pinakamasamang atras sa hanging (courtesy ng 3rd Gen).. Is it possible na pwede ibalik ang Unit? Parang di worth it na puro upgrade ng itsura at space lang sa expense ng downgrading yung performance.. Sorry kung medyo di maganda mga nasabi ko.. Very disappointed lang ako..

Sir.. in my opinion.. ang dahilan ng mahinang response ng engine ay yung delay sa throttle response.. mapapansin mo pagpiniga mo accelerator pedal uugong muna makina bago aabante.. ganyan yung Innova vvti 2013 AT ko nung makuha ko.. inis na inis din ako lalo na pag oovertake kse nakakatakot kse talagang delayed ang response ng makina pagpiniga yung gas pedal.. kaya ginawa ko pinakabitan ko ng sprint booster.. at ang resulta.. nawala yung delay ng throttle response at ang gaan ng pakiramdam pag piniga yung gas pedal.. parang tinutulak paabante yung oto.. kahit from full stop at uphill walang problema..

[michael677]

My unit is a bnew 1.5G a/t.

Ive been lurking for quite some time now but finally im posting my complaint about the car...my only complaint is the "tok tok sounds" sa may underside (dashboard or near wheel wells).

The first sound is the slight "tok" that can be heard independently at the front wheels, and sometimes when the road gets worse --- the "coughing" sound that seems something is vibrating inside the engine bay

But otherwise, the vios 1.5 has ample power (tried it in canyon woods and tagaytay highlands with full load)

[Aico Wei]

Got my Vios today its an E 1.3 AT variant. So far so good, no kalampags, ayos hatak, nag C5-Slex-C5 ako round trip ayos naman. Pag sa inclined na paakyat sa parking ng malls, mapapanssin mo mahihirapan cya umakyat sa D gear. Inilipat ko sa 3-D umayos na ang lahat as for FC, i loaded it full tank with Shell Nitro+ (eto kase pinakamalapit sa casa) from C5 pasig casa to SM BF balikan, hindi bumaba sa "full" indicator ang fuel ko. kung bumaba man cguro very very light.

[Blue_hawk]

Got a 1.3e a/t since October 2013 at 1602 odometer. Daily city driving makati to katipunan and Mandaluyong and once a month to San Mateo rizal. Up to now, F/c shell fuel save and consumes for city driving moderate to heavy traffic at 9-10km/liter, highway 11-12km/liter. Satisfied nAman Ako, ok ang hatak, good aircon, no kalampag, no unnecessary tok tok sounds and Hindi namamatayan Ng engine kapag naka hang. Overtake Swabe nAman, slight delay LNG but tolerable maybe for safety purposes. Just my two cents

[mox646]

Mahina ba talaga sa hanging ang 1.5G M/T? or Unit ko lang ang may problem.. Just find it weird na sa halip na maging easy driving lang ang pagpalit ng Vios (from 1st Gen to 3rd Gen), naging baligtad.. Eto naexperience ko simula nung nakuha ko yung Unit..

1. Blinking Indicator light (security ata yun)
2. Lag ang 3rd Gear
3. Parang wigo na may body at fuel consumption ng camry. (hirap sa hanging, mapapahand brake method ka sa sagwa)
4. Mahina sa overtaking
5. Less agile sa mga older gen. (understatement)
6. Tok sounds
7. Malakas sa gas

And after ko makaexperience ang pinakamasamang atras sa hanging (courtesy ng 3rd Gen).. Is it possible na pwede ibalik ang Unit? Parang di worth it na puro upgrade ng itsura at space lang sa expense ng downgrading yung performance.. Sorry kung medyo di maganda mga nasabi ko.. Very disappointed lang ako..

Kung ako isosoli ko yan (pero iposible mapalitan, pero parang lemon yan) hirap sa hanging 1.5? Yung sken dinala ko sa ternate tunnel papuntang pico deloro ok naman, nkakaovertake pa ko. Fuel consumption like camry?! Sosoli ko talaga yan.

[mox646]

^
Sir kung mapprove mo sa kanila na fuel consumption mo is 5-6km/li and hindi makaakyat or bitin sa hanging pa if i were you kumuha ka na ng lawyer tapos isoli mo, paltan mo na lang ng yaris

[jhnkvn]

Sir.. in my opinion.. ang dahilan ng mahinang response ng engine ay yung delay sa throttle response.. mapapansin mo pagpiniga mo accelerator pedal uugong muna makina bago aabante.. ganyan yung Innova vvti 2013 AT ko nung makuha ko.. inis na inis din ako lalo na pag oovertake kse nakakatakot kse talagang delayed ang response ng makina pagpiniga yung gas pedal.. kaya ginawa ko pinakabitan ko ng sprint booster.. at ang resulta.. nawala yung delay ng throttle response at ang gaan ng pakiramdam pag piniga yung gas pedal.. parang tinutulak paabante yung oto.. kahit from full stop at uphill walang problema..

You cannot solve drive by wire delay with a piggy back solution.

What you're doing is simply forcing your throttle modulation more at a given pedal position. In other words, if you're pressing the gas pedal with a force of.. let's say 1 newton. The system simply tricks the ECU that you're pressing the gas pedal with 1.5N of force. Simply put, pressing the gas more will yield the same benefit in a non-Sprint Boosted vehicle.

In other words, you're paying more just for you to feel power that all you need to get is press on the gas a tiny bit wee harder. If I'll be frank, you just got scammed.

Don't wanna believe it? I'll bet you a dyno-run that your overall power figures doesn't really deviate from the norm. If I win, give me a free Dyno run and pay for yours, if not, you get to have a free dyno sheet

It's just how Toyota tunes their Vioses and Innovas. They aren't made for great handling or good response. They'll give you a response that optimizes fuel consumption so consumers won't complain that getting from Point A to Point B takes too much gas.

Tignan mo yun Mazda3.. great response and handling pero mga tao grabe umangal sa fuel consumption.

[brainmafia_310]

^^^ tingin ko sir magadjust ka din ng timing sa pagpress ng clutch at accelerator. Sanayan din yan. If may lag, why not press the accelerator earlier than the usual.

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[homhomnova]

You cannot solve drive by wire delay with a piggy back solution.

What you're doing is simply forcing your throttle modulation more at a given pedal position. In other words, if you're pressing the gas pedal with a force of.. let's say 1 newton. The system simply tricks the ECU that you're pressing the gas pedal with 1.5N of force. Simply put, pressing the gas more will yield the same benefit in a non-Sprint Boosted vehicle.

In other words, you're paying more just for you to feel power that all you need to get is press on the gas a tiny bit wee harder. If I'll be frank, you just got scammed.

Don't wanna believe it? I'll bet you a dyno-run that your overall power figures doesn't really deviate from the norm. If I win, give me a free Dyno run and pay for yours, if not, you get to have a free dyno sheet

It's just how Toyota tunes their Vioses and Innovas. They aren't made for great handling or good response. They'll give you a response that optimizes fuel consumption so consumers won't complain that getting from Point A to Point B takes too much gas.

Tignan mo yun Mazda3.. great response and handling pero mga tao grabe umangal sa fuel consumption.

Kaya pala marami gumagamit ng aftermarket throttle controller such as sprint booster, pedal commander, eshadow.. etc.. ibig sabihin marami kami na scam.. hehehe

btw.. i have first hand experience at nakita ko ang difference compared sa stock though hindi sya naka increase ng hp but its purpose is to eliminate the delay in throttle response.. maybe other tsikoters na nascam ng aftermarket throttle controller can also share their experiences..

[artsky]

My fuel consumption (ODO at less than 3K):

[mccoy26]

My fuel consumption (ODO at less than 3K):

what app are you using?

[kimbon]

i am beginning to get the impression that the new vios is a "bit of a lemon".. is this true, or is the buyer now a more demanding lot? ini-isip ko na tuloy na imbes na kumuha ng bago, ay maghanap na lang ako ng alagang 2004 or 2005 vios...

Why would you not consider getting an earlier model says 2010 onwards instead of 2005 if you are not in a tight budget? IMHO, a 10 years old car ay magsisimula ng maglalabasan ang "sakit" nito kahit na ang previous owner pa ay regular sa PMS malibin na lang kung ang mileage nito ay super very low na yung tipong kahit an inch ay di pinapatagbo sa garahe in a month. Oh & btw nagkakaroon din pala ng sira ang matagal na di ginagamit ang car.

[dr. d]

Kaya pala marami gumagamit ng aftermarket throttle controller such as sprint booster, pedal commander, eshadow.. etc.. ibig sabihin marami kami na scam.. hehehe

btw.. i have first hand experience at nakita ko ang difference compared sa stock though hindi sya naka increase ng hp but its purpose is to eliminate the delay in throttle response.. maybe other tsikoters na nascam ng aftermarket throttle controller can also share their experiences..

i do not think you were scammed. the gadget delivered what you wanted it to do... a more responsive throttle.
but i agree... you probably did not really need it that badly; a livelier right foot would have delivered the same result.. parang power steering or brake booster lang yan.. mas madaling lumiko o mag-stop..

[dr. d]

Why would you not consider getting an earlier model says 2010 onwards instead of 2005 if you are not in a tight budget? IMHO, a 10 years old car ay magsisimula ng maglalabasan ang "sakit" nito kahit na ang previous owner pa ay regular sa PMS malibin na lang kung ang mileage nito ay super very low na yung tipong kahit an inch ay di pinapatagbo sa garahe in a month. Oh & btw nagkakaroon din pala ng sira ang matagal na di ginagamit ang car.

2010 model is fine. but the point of my comment was, is there something "wrong" with the new vios? why are many people complaining about little kinks in it? are today's customers more discriminating, or, is this just the product of easier communication, courtesy of the internet? that the older models had many problems also, only at that time, people were not gung ho into internet...

[artsky]

what app are you using?

Fuelio for Android.