2016 Toyota Fortuner

[GTcervan]

Sir, what to expect po pag hindi ka nagpapa EGR blank like maintenance niya kailan po linisin yun? Kasi ako hindi ako nagpapa EGR blank sa Fort ko eh. Salamat!


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I think it's not necessary yet since bago naman ang engine ng fortuner. Therefore, it's not smokey. Egr blanking is usually done for those vehicles with older diesel engines such as the 2nd gen montero, adventure, l300, etc. (4d56) or the crosswind (4ja1) since these two engines are notorious for emitting black smoke even if they were just a few days old. Yan ang observation ko sa kanila dati. The fact na euro 2 compliant lang din sila might also contribute to that behavior.

Pag tumagal na siguro at nagiging mausok na ang engine ng fort, baka dun na siguro kakailanganin ang egr blanking. Or pwede rin up to a certain pms para di sya maging mausok.

[PeterGChan]

I think it's not necessary yet since bago naman ang engine ng fortuner. Therefore, it's not smokey. Egr blanking is usually done for those vehicles with older diesel engines such as the 2nd gen montero, adventure, l300, etc. (4d56) or the crosswind (4ja1) since these two engines are notorious for emitting black smoke even if they were just a few days old. Yan ang observation ko sa kanila dati. The fact na euro 2 compliant lang din sila might also contribute to that behavior.

Pag tumagal na siguro at nagiging mausok na ang engine ng fort, baka dun na siguro kakailanganin ang egr blanking.

Sin yun bang EGR usually sanhi ng mausok? Salamat!


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[Wh1stl3r]

I think it's not necessary yet since bago naman ang engine ng fortuner. Therefore, it's not smokey. Egr blanking is usually done for those vehicles with older diesel engines such as the 2nd gen montero, adventure, l300, etc. (4d56) or the crosswind (4ja1) since these two engines are notorious for emitting black smoke even if they were just a few days old. Yan ang observation ko sa kanila dati. The fact na euro 2 compliant lang din sila might also contribute to that behavior.

Pag tumagal na siguro at nagiging mausok na ang engine ng fort, baka dun na siguro kakailanganin ang egr blanking. Or pwede rin up to a certain pms para di sya maging mausok.

Afaik for diesels only Euro 3 and up have EGR. The older engines you mentioned are all Euro 2 and don't have EGR

[GTcervan]

Sin yun bang EGR usually sanhi ng mausok? Salamat!


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Well, in some engines, like the 4d56 or 4ja1 na parehas luma, mostly ang egr talaga ang may cause ng black smoke sa kanila. Kaya after ng egr blanking, nawawala na yung black smoke and they say din pala na nagkakaroon ng mild gain sa performance ng engine but i don't know if it's true. Never pa kasi nasubukan sa mga diesel rigs namin.

Afaik for diesels only Euro 3 and up have EGR. The older engines you mentioned are all Euro 2 and don't have EGR

Are you sure? Kay zix kasi maraming montero ang nagpapa-egr blanking eh. And karamihan dun ay puro 4d56 ang engine. Try asking him if you want to.

[PeterGChan]

Well, in some engines, like the 4d56 or 4ja1 na parehas luma, mostly ang egr talaga ang may cause ng black smoke sa kanila. Kaya after ng egr blanking, nawawala na yung black smoke and they say din pala na nagkakaroon ng mild gain sa performance ng engine but i don't know if it's true. Never pa kasi nasubukan sa mga diesel rigs namin.

Okay! Thank you sir. Di ko kasi plan magpa blank ng EGR, palinis ko lang siguro yearly.


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[PeterGChan]

Afaik for diesels only Euro 3 and up have EGR. The older engines you mentioned are all Euro 2 and don't have EGR

Ang alam ko sir ang Crosswind may EGR din, pero mechanical lang kaya not as sensitive as the Montero and Fortuner. I think euro 2 ata mga Montero na before 2016 model? Maybe i'm wrong, not sure.


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[GTcervan]

Ang alam ko sir ang Crosswind may EGR din, pero mechanical lang kaya not as sensitive as the Montero and Fortuner. I think euro 2 ata mga Montero na before 2016 model? Maybe i'm wrong, not sure.


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Yes. And if those engines don't really have egrs, then i guess threads of egr blanking regarding them wont even exist here at all but you can see other threads here concerning about them. So that says that they do have egrs, too.

Anyways, you won't need it for the fortuner since it has a new engine and it's also already a euro iv compliant one.

[Wh1stl3r]

Well, in some engines, like the 4d56 or 4ja1 na parehas luma, mostly ang egr talaga ang may cause ng black smoke sa kanila. Kaya after ng egr blanking, nawawala na yung black smoke and they say din pala na nagkakaroon ng mild gain sa performance ng engine but i don't know if it's true. Never pa kasi nasubukan sa mga diesel rigs namin.


Are you sure? Kay zix kasi maraming montero ang nagpapa-egr blanking eh. And karamihan dun ay puro 4d56 ang engine. Try asking him if you want to.

I forgot yan din nga pala engine code sa lumang Montero. 4d56 in the Montero is Euro 3 na rin iirc. Do the 4d56 in the L300 also have EGR?

The 4ja1 having EGR is news to me. Kinda weird they have that in a really old engine.

[GTcervan]

I forgot yan din nga pala engine code sa lumang Montero. 4d56 in the Montero is Euro 3 na rin iirc. Do the 4d56 in the L300 also have EGR?

The 4ja1 having EGR is news to me. Kinda weird they have that in a really old engine.

Yes, i think so. All 4d56 engines have egrs, regardless of which models have it and they are also all euro 2 compliant. That's why it's a good thing na nagshift na din sila to euro iv for the monty with the 4n15 and the fortuner, too, with the new gd engines.

[Wh1stl3r]

Yes, i think so. All 4d56 engines have egrs, regardless of which models have it and they are also all euro 2 compliant. That's why it is a good thing na nagshift na din sila to euro iv for the monty and the fortuner, too, with the new gd engines.

Guess it's true you learn something new everyday. Re: Euro 4 imho it's still good practice to run the engine hard in the open road regularly if you don't want to blank it. Our GS is Euro 4 and still had the EGR clogged when it was exclusively used in Metro Manila traffic.

[GTcervan]

Guess it's true you learn something new everyday. Re: Euro 4 imho it's still good practice to run the engine hard in the open road regularly if you don't want to blank it. Our GS is Euro 4 and still had the EGR clogged when it was exclusively used in Metro Manila traffic.

Sana...

If only traffic didn't exist here that much, then there would be a lesser chance of clogging the egr.

[Orange_SR5]

Why sir on egr blanking?


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An oil catch can or air-oil separator would be better for keeping the engine clean. I'm not sure on the new engines but I recall the older KD engines with the Variable Nozzle turbo using the EGR to dump excess boost since the VN turbo did not have a wastegate.


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[PeterGChan]

Guess it's true you learn something new everyday. Re: Euro 4 imho it's still good practice to run the engine hard in the open road regularly if you don't want to blank it. Our GS is Euro 4 and still had the EGR clogged when it was exclusively used in Metro Manila traffic.

Makatulong pala pa minsan2x atleast patakbuhin ng mabilis? Usually kasi pag city, di tlga lalagpas 2,500 rpm. Nasa 2,000 lang kasi shifting point ng ECO mode ng Fort eh. Will practice running hard sometimes pag long distance.


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[yapoy86]

An oil catch can or air-oil separator would be better for keeping the engine clean. I'm not sure on the new engines but I recall the older KD engines with the Variable Nozzle turbo using the EGR to dump excess boost since the VN turbo did not have a wastegate.


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Variable nozzle or vgt dont have wastegate..turbines will adjust to compensate for excess boost

[Bradon3]

Nice car so far. I like it.

[vinrem]

I'm not using eco mode na, I just put it in normal mode.

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[PeterGChan]

I'm not using eco mode na, I just put it in normal mode.

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May difference ba sa hatak between eco atsaka normal mode? Or yung normal mode, pwede biglaan mag accelerate unlike sa eco na talagang steady slow acceleration?


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[ssaloon]

May difference ba sa hatak between eco atsaka normal mode? Or yung normal mode, pwede biglaan mag accelerate unlike sa eco na talagang steady slow acceleration?


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Yes - may difference.

Eco - shifts up quickly with minimal revs.
Normal - longer revs per gear for better acceleration.

[PeterGChan]

Yes - may difference.

Eco - shifts up quickly with minimal revs.
Normal - longer revs per gear for better acceleration.

Ahhh yun pala. Kala ko kasi almost the same lang sila, though di ko pa nasubukan hatakin ng mabilis ang normal mode. Try ko this sunday long drive, city driving kasi whole week sa sunday lang pwede long drive eh. Hehe. Salamat sir ssaloon!


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[Wh1stl3r]

Sana...

If only traffic didn't exist here that much, then there would be a lesser chance of clogging the egr.

Yup, that's the challenge. Hardly any roads where you can open up the throttle anymore.