Brake Pad Thread [Merged]

[jick.cejoco]

My brakes are noisy in the morning. Squeel. The pads original from Toyota casa are fairly new, maybe 20Tkms old. What could be wrong? TIA

some older cars are a combination of disc brakes on the front and drum brakes on the rear. the rear brakes accumulate brake dust over time. this dust absorb moisture and cause the morning symptom until the brake drums warm up. everytime the front brakes are serviced, these drum brakes also need attention, i.e., cleaning and inspection.

[JapanABC]

Totoong ceramic ba ang brembo pads? Hinde niya kainin ang stock rotors like yun metal king ng bendix?

Ano ba advantage ng ceramic, meron ba kahit stock lang rotor?


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Just found out that Brembo aftermarket products are blatantly lying to the market not only for the friction compound of their brake pads but also they have 2 layers of different quality friction material sa brake pads nila.

1st Brembo aftermarket brake pads have 10% steel compound which by industry standards are no longer considered ceramic, they are called LOW-METALLIC brake pads by the friction material industry. That is why sobrang maalikabok, maingay and malakas mag wear out ng rotor discs ang Brembo aftermarket brake pads is dahil hindi sila ceramic but they are a low-metallic brake pads by nature of their compound. Last but not the least it is the reason why the aftermarket brake pads wears rotor discs x10 more than genuine/original brake pads.

2nd Brembo aftermarket brake pads have TWO DIFFERENT LAYERS of FRICTION MATERIAL, half 1st layer is the somewhat good quality friction material pero pag abot mo na sa second layer ng friction materials ng Brembo aftermarket brake pads doon na yung low quality way below industry standard na friction formula na compound kaya pag abot mo sa 2nd layer doon na yung napaka laking performance difference sa braking power, brake pads wear and etc...

3rd they are also using several impure materials sa brake pads friction compound nila which are causing inconsistencies sa quality ng brake pads during every production.

Be wary of their advertising ploys, there are several reasons behind why their aftermarket brake pad products are way too cheap even cheaper than Bendix and other well known brands. Brembo is 100% outsourcing their aftermarket brake pad products from several China manufacturers, then nirerebadge lang to Brembo brand and logo.

[oj88]

Just found out that Brembo aftermarket products are blatantly lying to the market not only for the friction compound of their brake pads but also they have 2 layers of different quality friction material sa brake pads nila.

1st Brembo aftermarket brake pads have 10% steel compound which by industry standards are no longer considered ceramic, they are called LOW-METALLIC brake pads by the friction material industry. That is why sobrang maalikabok, maingay and malakas mag wear out ng rotor discs ang Brembo aftermarket brake pads is dahil hindi sila ceramic but they are a low-metallic brake pads by nature of their compound. Last but not the least it is the reason why the aftermarket brake pads wears rotor discs x10 more than genuine/original brake pads.

2nd Brembo aftermarket brake pads have TWO DIFFERENT LAYERS of FRICTION MATERIAL, half 1st layer is the somewhat good quality friction material pero pag abot mo na sa second layer ng friction materials ng Brembo aftermarket brake pads doon na yung low quality way below industry standard na friction formula na compound kaya pag abot mo sa 2nd layer doon na yung napaka laking performance difference sa braking power, brake pads wear and etc...

Be wary of their advertising ploys, there are several reasons behind why their aftermarket brake pad products are way too cheap even cheaper than Bendix and other well known brands. Brembo is 100% outsourcing their aftermarket brake pad products from several China manufacturers, then nirerebadge lang to Brembo brand and logo.

Drop some links and independent studies where those assertions were based on. They're one of the big names in brake assemblies and friction materials and I don't think they would sully their brand name over provably questionable business practices.

I imagine marami din fake and "class A" counterfeits, so maybe the competitor who made that comparison used those instead.

[JapanABC]

Drop some links and independent studies where those assertions were based on. They're one of the big names in brake assemblies and friction materials and I don't think they would sully their brand name over provably questionable business practices.

I imagine marami din fake and "class A" counterfeits, so maybe the competitor who made that comparison used those instead.

Why would another competitor use class A counterfeit products for comparison which it will not release accurate comparisons of the said reputable brands, authorized products can be easily purchased from authorized distributors and dealers from their website. Chaka those who make imitation products would rather make fake products of Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan and etc... rather than copy low price aftermarket products. Since those sellers have an easier time selling fake Toyota products compared sa aftermarket brands asides sa mas easier for them to sell mas mataas pa profit na pwede nilang ilagay sa mga fake Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Honda and other original car brands na parts. Kaya mas majority lumalaganap na fake parts ay yung mga original car manufacturer brands. Also magsasayang lang sila ng oras to use a fake product for testing purposes tapos madedebunk din ang claims nila in the end, mas better siguro sa long term plan to just release the true information instead of myopic reasons na competitors will use an imitation para lang mag prove ng something that will harm them in the short term, mawawalan pa sila ng integrity if they show false results.



They are one of the biggest pero they do not in any way manufacture their own brake pads as per checking sa website mismo ng Brembo Italy, ALL OF THEIR FACTORIES mentioning only producing disc brake calipers and other hydraulic braking metal parts, but brake pads zero. They just outsourced their aftermarket brake pads from China. Not one Brembo factory produces any friction products, even their originally supplied brake pads sa car manufacturers are not manufactured by them, they just supply the whole brake system(disc caliper, brake pads, rotor discs & brake hose as a whole set) to the car manufacturers.



What their China aftermarket division plans and execute does not mean the same as what you think they will do or not do. This the proof that Brembo had outsourced all of their aftermarket brake pads from other brake pad companies in China.



Also if mapapansin din na sobrang mura ng Brembo, even way lower pa prices niya sa brands like Bendix.

[oj88]

Ah, you're correct that they do not manufacture the pads themselves. They do get them from different 3rd parties like SBS. I'm thinking maybe products sold in Asia uses pads sourced from China. NA market from Mexico, and Europeans from Germany or Italy. Just a guess.

[JapanABC]

Ah, you're correct that they do not manufacture the pads themselves. They do get them from different 3rd parties like SBS. I'm thinking maybe products sold in Asia uses pads sourced from China. NA market from Mexico, and Europeans from Germany or Italy. Just a guess.

Hindi ko nga maimagine sa simula eh, biruin mo yung Brembo may patong na sa binili nilang outsourced brake pad products sa ibang kumpanya sa China pero namanage parin nila masmura pa sa Bendix, ano nalang kayang natitira na features doon sa product since may middle man cut na si Brembo. Hahaha

[makelovenotwar]

Magkano ba ang bendix?
Yung nabili kong brembo brake pads for Isuzu Mux ay nasa ~P9,000 (~P4,500 harap at ~P4,500 likod). This year lang yun.

[JapanABC]

Magkano ba ang bendix?
Yung nabili kong brembo brake pads for Isuzu Mux ay nasa ~P9,000 (~P4,500 harap at ~P4,500 likod). This year lang yun.

Nasa P1,250 nalang yung current price ng Brembo ngayon ng pang harap ng Isuzu Mux nung pag tingin ko sa Lazada, yung Bendix nasa P1,200, P50 nalang difference ng Bendix and Brembo for front brake pads ng Isuzu Mux. Hahaha

[makelovenotwar]

Nasa P1,250 nalang yung current price ng Brembo ngayon ng pang harap ng Isuzu Mux nung pag tingin ko sa Lazada, yung Bendix nasa P1,200, P50 nalang difference ng Bendix and Brembo for front brake pads ng Isuzu Mux. Hahaha

Clarify ko lang, kung tama ang pagkakaintindi ko sa sinasabi mo.

- There are two kinds of brembo brake pads being sold in PH market now, 1 is fake brembo and 1 is legit brembo.
- Whether legit or fake, brembo is bad for the brake rotors

Tama ba intindi ko?

[hardwang]

I thought Brembo brake pads were made by Akebono too.
It says that on the box.




There is also a QR code on the box, when scanned shows this:

[dr. d]

I thought Brembo brake pads were made by Akebono too.
It says that on the box.




There is also a QR code on the box, when scanned shows this:

that can mean anything from "made by akebono" to "made for akebono (by xxx company)", and everything else in between.

[andrewnathaniel]

Original Nisshinbo pads kaya ito? Nakita ko lang sa shopee.

Hi-Q at Brembo sana pinagpipilian ko pero may mga nabasa ako dito negative feedbacks sa dalawa kaya nagtingin pa ako ng ibang brand. Fortunately, nakita ko itong Nisshinbo para sa Accent.


https://shopee.ph/Brakepads-Front-fo...a-3536c399eb30

[hardwang]

that can mean anything from "made by akebono" to "made for akebono (by xxx company)", and everything else in between.

I don't know if it is my mind playing tricks on me but I swear I read somewhere before, 2 years ago, that the Brembo (Akebono) brake pads are made in Japan but the shims and brake grease that came along with the box are made in China. I am actually scouring the box and the internet but can't seem to find where I read that.

By the way, the Brembo ceramic pads I used before are toast. Lasted only 2 years. Around 20,000kms. I bought another set.
Wanted to buy original manufacturer pads (which is Akebono by the way) but they cost 8500 while the brembo cost 3k in shopee.

[falken]

I don't know if it is my mind playing tricks on me but I swear I read somewhere before, 2 years ago, that the Brembo (Akebono) brake pads are made in Japan but the shims and brake grease that came along with the box are made in China. I am actually scouring the box and the internet but can't seem to find where I read that.

By the way, the Brembo ceramic pads I used before are toast. Lasted only 2 years. Around 20,000kms. I bought another set.
Wanted to buy original manufacturer pads (which is Akebono by the way) but they cost 8500 while the brembo cost 3k in shopee.

It depends on the way you drive. But I've never had to change brake pads at 20k kms. I also have apprehensions about that 3k price.

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[shadow]

Eh bakit 7k bili ko for explorer yun brembo then 6k yata rear


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[hardwang]

It depends on the way you drive. But I've never had to change brake pads at 20k kms. I also have apprehensions about that 3k price.

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Did you see the screenshot I posted earlier?

[hardwang]

Eh bakit 7k bili ko for explorer yun brembo then 6k yata rear


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6k bili ko nung sa akin dati. Ngayon kung titignan mo sa shopee, kalahati na lang ang presyo. Pareha lang din yung nabili ko ngayon na 3k doon sa 6k na brembo pads two years ago. Baka dinidispose na lang nila? Clearance sale?

[falken]

6k bili ko nung sa akin dati. Ngayon kung titignan mo sa shopee, kalahati na lang ang presyo. Pareha lang din yung nabili ko ngayon na 3k doon sa 6k na brembo pads two years ago. Baka dinidispose na lang nila? Clearance sale?

Ok naman yung scan mo sa new purchase? Planning to recommend to a friend.

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[hardwang]

Ok naman yung scan mo sa new purchase? Planning to recommend to a friend.

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Yeah, when the QR code on the box was scanned, it led me to Brembo's website and says the product code is valid or something.

You know what, I think I messed up the bedding in procedure of the first Brembo pads I tried. Just after 1 day of installing, I remember braking so hard, the ABS activated. Now I tried being gentle with the new brake pads which seem to behave normally as of now, unlike before where its noisy and groaning during stops.

The recurring issue I have with brembo is that the included shims does not fit on the caliper. I always had to reuse the old ones, just cleaning it with a wire brush.

And in the 20,000km run of the first pads, it didn't seem to have damaged or wear out the brake rotor.

[falken]

Yeah, when the QR code on the box was scanned, it led me to Brembo's website and says the product code is valid or something.

You know what, I think I messed up the bedding in procedure of the first Brembo pads I tried. Just after 1 day of installing, I remember braking so hard, the ABS activated. Now I tried being gentle with the new brake pads which seem to behave normally as of now, unlike before where its noisy and groaning during stops.

The recurring issue I have with brembo is that the included shims does not fit on the caliper. I always had to reuse the old ones, just cleaning it with a wire brush.

And in the 20,000km run of the first pads, it didn't seem to have damaged or wear out the brake rotor.

Thanks.

Hope this new one will work out better for you.

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