Brake Pad Thread [Merged]

[JapanABC]

Clarify ko lang, kung tama ang pagkakaintindi ko sa sinasabi mo.

- There are two kinds of brembo brake pads being sold in PH market now, 1 is fake brembo and 1 is legit brembo.
- Whether legit or fake, brembo is bad for the brake rotors

Tama ba intindi ko?

No I didn't say na may fake Brembo sa market, but Brembo aftermarket division in China decided to drop the price to match Bendix, but the legit Brembo aftermarket brake pads are not good for the rotor discs.

[JapanABC]

I thought Brembo brake pads were made by Akebono too.
It says that on the box.




There is also a QR code on the box, when scanned shows this:

Just to clarify things up with this, sa other brands like Brembo will usually put on their aftermarket brake pads ng who is the original manufacturer ng brake system ng certain car models, so yung naka lagay diyan na Akebono means Akebono was the original brake caliper and pads for that specific car model. Kaya sometimes naman sa other cars like Honda models yung makikita mo naman sa Brembo box is Nissin naman ang nakalagay na original brake system supplier ng car model na yun.

Kaya nakita mo doon sa sticker label ng Brembo may picture ng one whole brake system which is the caliper and rotor disc nakakabit together, what that means is who is the original stock brake system supplier ng car model na yun.

[JapanABC]

6k bili ko nung sa akin dati. Ngayon kung titignan mo sa shopee, kalahati na lang ang presyo. Pareha lang din yung nabili ko ngayon na 3k doon sa 6k na brembo pads two years ago. Baka dinidispose na lang nila? Clearance sale?

Nope, the Brembo aftermarket division in China chose a new strategy which is to sell by volume sa masa end users. I already saw their prices on Shopee Thailand sobrang mura narin ng presyo nila they are trying to compete with Bendix level sa aftermarket na usually nasa P1,000~up lang na prices.

[hardwang]

Just to clarify things up with this, sa other brands like Brembo will usually put on their aftermarket brake pads ng who is the original manufacturer ng brake system ng certain car models, so yung naka lagay diyan na Akebono means Akebono was the original brake caliper and pads for that specific car model. Kaya sometimes naman sa other cars like Honda models yung makikita mo naman sa Brembo box is Nissin naman ang nakalagay na original brake system supplier ng car model na yun.

Kaya nakita mo doon sa sticker label ng Brembo may picture ng one whole brake system which is the caliper and rotor disc nakakabit together, what that means is who is the original stock brake system supplier ng car model na yun.

Oh I see! That explains why the brembo pads seem to have a different design. The original Akebono ones have that line in between the brake pads, I don't know what that's called. Shiet. Guess I'll just replace these after a year.

[JapanABC]

Oh I see! That explains why the brembo pads seem to have a different design. The original Akebono ones have that line in between the brake pads, I don't know what that's called. Shiet. Guess I'll just replace these after a year.

Yes isa din reason why Brembo brake pads are cheap is because a lot of them don't have what we call the slot, which is for cooling purposes of the brake pads friction material para hindi mag overheat kaagad and losing ng braking power and brake fade endurance & efficiency, kaya ang maximum operating temperature lng ng Brembo aftermarket brake pads ay only 370°C before hindi na kakayanin ng friction material.

[JapanABC]

Yes isa din reason why Brembo brake pads are cheap is because a lot of them don't have what we call the slot, which is for cooling purposes of the brake pads friction material para hindi mag overheat kaagad and losing ng braking power and brake fade endurance & efficiency, kaya ang maximum operating temperature lng ng Brembo aftermarket brake pads ay only 370°C before hindi na kakayanin ng friction material.

Without the brake pads slot ng Brembo aftermarket brake pads, once the pad material overheats it is prone to the material becoming brittle and cracking tapos Brembo aftermarket China dinadaya nila brake pads quality nila which is called dual layer meaning 1st half ng material is ok performance pero pagdating mo na sa 2nd half ng material mas worse or similar to Bendix General CT quality and performance na unlike Akebono na iisang layer and formula lang na friction material walang daya. Ang problem mo diyan is may 10% iron content yung Brembo brake pads yan lng only reason bakit may additional power yung initial na kagat sa brakes kaya mapapansin mo na maitim brake dusts ng Brembo dahil nga sa metallic content niya, masmalakas din wear and tear sa rotor discs.

[JapanABC]

Yes isa din reason why Brembo brake pads are cheap is because a lot of them don't have what we call the slot, which is for cooling purposes of the brake pads friction material para hindi mag overheat kaagad and losing ng braking power and brake fade endurance & efficiency, kaya ang maximum operating temperature lng ng Brembo aftermarket brake pads ay only 370°C before hindi na kakayanin ng friction material.

Without the brake pads slot ng Brembo aftermarket brake pads, once the pad material overheats it is prone to the material becoming brittle and cracking tapos Brembo aftermarket China dinadaya nila brake pads quality nila which is called dual layer meaning 1st half ng material is ok performance pero pagdating mo na sa 2nd half ng material mas worse or similar to Bendix General CT quality and performance na unlike Akebono na iisang layer and formula lang na friction material walang daya. Ang problem mo diyan is may 10% iron content yung Brembo brake pads yan lng only reason bakit may additional power yung initial na kagat sa brakes kaya mapapansin mo na maitim brake dusts ng Brembo dahil nga sa metallic content niya, x10 more kain niya sa rotor discs compared with original genuine car maker brake pads and Akebono. Tapos x2 masmabilis siya maubos versus Akebono brake pads due to chopsuey na two different types/layers of friction material and impure pa yung significant portion ng gamit nilang raw materials.

[knightindustrie]

JapanABC, can you suggest po where to buy original akebono brake pads and shoes around Metro Manila yung physical store po sana.

[JapanABC]

News regarding the original aftermarket Brembo brake pads, most of the auto shops that had purchased Brembo aftermarket brake pads had received a lot of bad feedback from their customers and majority of the auto shops across the Philippines had already stop buying Brembo aftermarket brake pads due to their poor quality especially when they undercut the prices of the Bendix General CT which is an entry level brake pad variant of the Bendix product line.

Before the number of end users that used the product were not as many as today's users, when the Brembo aftermarket team in China decided to turn Brembo's prices into budget meal brakes, so the prices of Brembo had been dumped way below the prices of Bendix then there was a huge increase of initial trial purchases from the end users since it had become more affordable for the end users to purchase them since their prices went below PHP 2k per set from the previous PHP 5-6k per set, since then more people were able to try using the aftermarket Brembo brake pads thus the ratio of complains sharply increased because there were now more end users that was able to try the product unlike before when only a few end users could afford it. Sadly their reputation in the aftermarket has been severely tarnished.

[number8plaka]

Guys, san makakabili ng orig Akebono/Nishinbo rear brake pads for '09 Honda City GM2? Sa mismong site kasi ni Akebono walang City na variant. Ang hirap humanap ng rear puro nakikita ko front

[JapanABC]

Just found out that Brembo aftermarket products are blatantly lying to the market not only for the friction compound of their brake pads but also they have 2 layers of different quality friction material sa brake pads nila.

1st Brembo aftermarket brake pads have 10% steel compound which by industry standards are no longer considered ceramic, they are called LOW-METALLIC brake pads by the friction material industry. That is why sobrang maalikabok, maingay and malakas mag wear out ng rotor discs ang Brembo aftermarket brake pads is dahil hindi sila ceramic but they are a low-metallic brake pads by nature of their compound. Last but not the least it is the reason why the aftermarket brake pads wears rotor discs x10 more than genuine/original brake pads.

2nd Brembo aftermarket brake pads have TWO DIFFERENT LAYERS of FRICTION MATERIAL, half 1st layer is the somewhat good quality friction material pero pag abot mo na sa second layer ng friction materials ng Brembo aftermarket brake pads doon na yung low quality way below industry standard na friction formula na compound kaya pag abot mo sa 2nd layer doon na yung napaka laking performance difference sa braking power, brake pads wear and etc...

3rd they are also using several impure materials sa brake pads friction compound nila which are causing inconsistencies sa quality ng brake pads during every production.

Be wary of their advertising ploys, there are several reasons behind why their aftermarket brake pad products are way too cheap even cheaper than Bendix and other well known brands. Brembo is 100% outsourcing their aftermarket brake pad products from several China manufacturers, then nirerebadge lang to Brembo brand and logo.

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See I told you guys, now lang dinisclose ng official Brembo distributor na ang Brembo Prime brake pads ay low-metallic brake pads, sa kanila na mismo nanggaling and nag announce na low-metallic ang brake pads nila. No matter how long it takes the truth will eventually come out sooner or later.

[carxynogen]

Question lang just in case may maisuggest paano i resolve yung ingay every morning sa brakepad.
Newly replaced pads yung front ng car last June.
Pero every morning, may ingay yung brakes.
Pinalinis ko na from suking shell station last month.
Pero bumalik pa rin.

I haven't check the brake fluid though, pero parang may laman naman.
Ano po kaya cause ng ingay nito?
MUX 2015 AT yung car.

[oj88]

Question lang just in case may maisuggest paano i resolve yung ingay every morning sa brakepad.
Newly replaced pads yung front ng car last June.
Pero every morning, may ingay yung brakes.
Pinalinis ko na from suking shell station last month.
Pero bumalik pa rin.

I haven't check the brake fluid though, pero parang may laman naman.
Ano po kaya cause ng ingay nito?
MUX 2015 AT yung car.

If you're using semi-metallic brake pads, switch to a lower-metallic content pads.... Go organic, ceramic, or maybe hybrid (semi-metallic+ceramic).

[carxynogen]

If you're using semi-metallic brake pads, switch to a lower-metallic content pads.... Go organic, ceramic, or maybe hybrid (semi-metallic+ceramic).

Im using Akebono po.
This is the stock brakepad brand of this car.

[JapanABC]

Question lang just in case may maisuggest paano i resolve yung ingay every morning sa brakepad.
Newly replaced pads yung front ng car last June.
Pero every morning, may ingay yung brakes.
Pinalinis ko na from suking shell station last month.
Pero bumalik pa rin.

I haven't check the brake fluid though, pero parang may laman naman.
Ano po kaya cause ng ingay nito?
MUX 2015 AT yung car.

One possible issue is that the steel rotor discs during the night and early morning acquires moisture during that time and that creates rusts which will cause the screeching issue because thin layer of rusts that your rotor discs had acquired overnight is in the middle of both your brake pads and rotor discs and during contact both the rotor discs and brake pads are scraping off the accumulated rust due to the humidity in our region which causes the sound you are hearing every morning, another possibility is that your brake pads is taking time to adapt to the uneven surface of the rotor discs due to wear and tear of the previous contacts between the stock brake pads and rotor discs so parang lumalapat palang siya doon sa mga edges and uneven surfaces that was the caused of wear and tear normally sa brake pads and rotor discs until the brake pad surface evens out to the surface of the rotor discs it would have gaps which the air can pass through during braking and lastly another possible reason is that your rear brake shoes have been worn out and the uneven friction material banda sa upper or lower end ng friction material has a gap for it to make whistling noise just like what happened to my friend who has a Navara pickup akala niya yung brand new brake pads nagiingay pero yun pala yung brake shoes sa rear uneven na which leaves space to create noise while braking.

[JapanABC]

By the way guys may isang company and brand that is trying to deceive people into thinking that they are a Japanese company or from a Japanese origin, the company and brand name is Masuma with an orange and black packaging, what they are really is a mainland China aftermarket parts company that rented an office in Japan so that they could tell people that they are a Japanese company that sells automative products that come from mainland China, just the same as what Miniso and Mumuso have done where they copied the Japanese and Korean companies designs then rented an office in a building somewhere in Japan for Miniso and South Korea for Mumuso then try to introduce themselves as a company from Japan or South Korea but the truth is they don’t have presence in their claimed “headquarters”. If this is their integrity in introducing their companies then what more about other things.

[Deestone]

Can you recommend other organic brake pads that is rotor disc friendly? I'm searching for Hi-Q but they are out of stock for my car.