Subaru Forester

[Egan101]

Because even output is misleading. A Fiesta Ecoboost with 120 hp will out-accelerate an Everest 3.2 with 200 hp.

0-100 for the Fiesta is 9 sec. 12 sec for the Everest.

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This is where it is key to understand the power-to-weight ratio. As EQ will say, his LC200 may have 600Nm of torque available but pushing 2600 kg will not make it a nimble ride.

If performance is key for a CUV, you will never go wrong with an FXT. So better get one now or your only choice will be the used market once Motor Image stops selling the SJ platform FXT.

[jut703]

This is where it is key to understand the power-to-weight ratio. As EQ will say, his LC200 may have 600Nm of torque available but pushing 2600 kg will not make it a nimble ride.

If performance is key for a CUV, you will never go wrong with an FXT. So better get one now or your only choice will be the used market once Motor Image stops selling the SJ platform FXT.

Sabihan mo ko pag for sale na FXT mo. [emoji6]

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[Egan101]

Sabihan mo ko pag for sale na FXT mo. [emoji6]

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Malay mo ibalik nila yung FXT sa next generation. Tapos rated na at 300hp.

Mas malaki ata chance na ibenta ni EQ yung Q5 nya kung palitan na nya ng Macan. Hehehe


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[StockEngine]

theyll probably release a new turbo after a few years.. aka minor or major update.

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[Trippin]

This is where it is key to understand the power-to-weight ratio. As EQ will say, his LC200 may have 600Nm of torque available but pushing 2600 kg will not make it a nimble ride.

If performance is key for a CUV, you will never go wrong with an FXT. So better get one now or your only choice will be the used market once Motor Image stops selling the SJ platform FXT.

Have you tried driving a 2013-2017 Santa Fe? If so, how do you compare its pull from your FXT? I'm looking at pre-owned and the prices are not so far off between the two.

I'm just a bit more partial with diesels being cheaper but your praises with your FXT just makes me want to consider it.

[MR_BIG18]

Have you tried driving a 2013-2017 Santa Fe? If so, how do you compare its pull from your FXT? I'm looking at pre-owned and the prices are not so far off between the two.

I'm just a bit more partial with diesels being cheaper but your praises with your FXT just makes me want to consider it.

I can answer that...the santa fe feels at home at stop and go traffic....overtaking is about the same...but at the corners, say daan-hari-burgring...i seldom use the brakes on the xt

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[Dekra]

Matibay ba yung Growl Audio?


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They offer 3 yrs warranty; I'm on my second year - so far so good

[StockEngine]

They offer 3 yrs warranty; I'm on my second year - so far so good

maganda grounding and shielding[emoji106]

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[Egan101]

Have you tried driving a 2013-2017 Santa Fe? If so, how do you compare its pull from your FXT? I'm looking at pre-owned and the prices are not so far off between the two.

I'm just a bit more partial with diesels being cheaper but your praises with your FXT just makes me want to consider it.

Power wise, the FXT has an edge over the Santa Fe. It is also no contest in terms of acceleration. The symmetrical AWD system on the FXT just gives it a lot more grip. In stock form, the FXT sprints from 0 to 100 kmh in around 7 seconds and top speed is rated around 230 kmh. It drives more like a big compact car on stilts.

I have not driven the previous gen Santa Fe but I have encountered a few of them on the expressways driven by aggressive drivers. The Santa Fe does accelerate quicker than those PPVs but not at par though with the FXT.

If you want a much quicker CUV, check out the Audi Q5 Quattro 2.0 TFSI. EQAddict can give you a review of that ride.


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[Trippin]

I can answer that...the santa fe feels at home at stop and go traffic....overtaking is about the same...but at the corners, say daan-hari-burgring...i seldom use the brakes on the xt
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Santa Fe is (a bit) bigger and heavier and the Subaru Forester (pareho palang SF, lol) is AWD so that helps it make it feel more planted. Though hopefully not so much body roll?

Power wise, the FXT has an edge over the Santa Fe. It is also no contest in terms of acceleration. The symmetrical AWD system on the FXT just gives it a lot more grip. In stock form, the FXT sprints from 0 to 100 kmh in around 7 seconds and top speed is rated around 230 kmh. It drives more like a big compact car on stilts.

I have not driven the previous gen Santa Fe but I have encountered a few of them on the expressways driven by aggressive drivers. The Santa Fe does accelerate quicker than those PPVs but not at par though with the FXT.

If you want a much quicker CUV, check out the Audi Q5 Quattro 2.0 TFSI. EQAddict can give you a review of that ride.
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That 7 secs from 0-100 is really quick for a family car, now I'm more interested.

Though I'm now a VW Group fan because of my Golf GTS an Audi would be waaay out of my league, lol. I have my eyes between the two as you mentioned the FXT will go the way of the way of the woolly mammoth, while SFe pre-owned price is not too shabby for a comfy diesel CUV.

Looks like I have more pros to show to the wifey why we can use a CUV.

[StockEngine]

Power wise, the FXT has an edge over the Santa Fe. It is also no contest in terms of acceleration. The symmetrical AWD system on the FXT just gives it a lot more grip. In stock form, the FXT sprints from 0 to 100 kmh in around 7 seconds and top speed is rated around 230 kmh. It drives more like a big compact car on stilts.

I have not driven the previous gen Santa Fe but I have encountered a few of them on the expressways driven by aggressive drivers. The Santa Fe does accelerate quicker than those PPVs but not at par though with the FXT.

If you want a much quicker CUV, check out the Audi Q5 Quattro 2.0 TFSI. EQAddict can give you a review of that ride.


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will a sub 7s be ok na? [emoji848]

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[EQAddict]

If your prime consideration is performance and driving enjoyment....There is no contest between the FXT and the Sante Fe.

Gas turbo vs oil burner turbo.....the gas will always win hands down for outright power and a longer, linear and more useable powerband. And the FXT has those paddle shifters which kinda help simulate gears on its CVT. The turbo diesel advantages in city driving are negated because the FXT also has a turbo and has a lot of low end grunt.

The santa fe has 200hp but its delivered only to the front wheels. The torque steer on that thing is nuts. And its a heavier crossover (it has a small 3rd row). The FXT will always put the power down because of AWD and it will feel more planted and secure.





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[Ketib]

If your prime consideration is performance and driving enjoyment....There is no contest between the FXT and the Sante Fe.

Gas turbo vs oil burner turbo.....the gas will always win hands down for outright power and a longer, linear and more useable powerband. And the FXT has those paddle shifters which kinda help simulate gears on its CVT. The turbo diesel advantages in city driving are negated because the FXT also has a turbo and has a lot of low end grunt.

The santa fe has 200hp but its delivered only to the front wheels. The torque steer on that thing is nuts. And its a heavier crossover (it has a small 3rd row). The FXT will always put the power down because of AWD and it will feel more planted and secure.





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How about comparing to MS sir(e.g. overtaking power)? My brit brother in law want to buy forrester for my sister. What do i expect with this ride(forrester)? Hindi ko kasi sure kung makapag test drive ako rito sa amin, but i'll try to arrange din. Daghang salamat.

[EQAddict]

The forester will eat the MS for breakfast in terms of overtaking power. Its not even close.



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[Egan101]

will a sub 7s be ok na? [emoji848]

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You can tune the engine to get it up to WRX outputs. That would get it to below 7 seconds. USDM FXTs (tuned at 250 hp) does 0-60 mph in around 6.5 seconds as per most tests.

The FXT and WRX share the same engine but are tuned differently. Locally, the FXT is only rated at 240 hp and most dyno tests put it at around 170-180 hp on the wheels. Fusion R offers an ECU remap tune that would raise whp to around 200-210 hp.

How about comparing to MS sir(e.g. overtaking power)? My brit brother in law want to buy forrester for my sister. What do i expect with this ride(forrester)? Hindi ko kasi sure kung makapag test drive ako rito sa amin, but i'll try to arrange din. Daghang salamat.

Most PPVs does 0-100 kmh sprints around 11-12 seconds. Only the Trailblazer can break 10 seconds. The Santa Fe CRDi is rated around 9+ seconds.

Even the Forester 2.0L NA can match the quickness of most of these PPVs.

The forester will eat the MS for breakfast in terms of overtaking power. Its not even close.


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Yep, it's like taking candy from a baby. An FXT will be doing around 150 kmh already by the time an MS is doing 100 kmh, assuming on an open stretch of road.

[Ketib]

Yep, it's like taking candy from a baby. An FXT will be doing around 150 kmh already by the time an MS is doing 100 kmh, assuming on an open stretch of road.

How about fully loaded with back pack each person cargo? Also travelling, we might say 2%-10% uphill grade? Don't know if this is important, but i love to rev uphill.

[EQAddict]

Both cars will suffer the same penalty when weighed down with the same payload. The power to weight ratio of the subaru even when wieghed down will still be better.

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[SpinCycle]

Even if you fit 5 250 lb persons and 300 kgs of cargo in the FXT AND have the Montero Sport just with 1 driver and no cargo; the FXT will still have better Power/Weight Ratio.

Which just means the MS is a heavy ass vehicle.


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[Egan101]

How about fully loaded with back pack each person cargo? Also travelling, we might say 2%-10% uphill grade? Don't know if this is important, but i love to rev uphill.

Subie's CVT might be slow off the line but what it does well is it keeps the engine within the powerband all the time.

I guess it is apt for a driver to gauge the weight of his load and the road surface he is treading. The FXT just have enough juice to keep it going on most road surfaces. In rougher patches of surfaces like mud or offroad terrain, just put the car in X-mode and the AWD system will apply the necessary throttle/brake input to keep all 4 tires with enough traction to move forward.

[Egan101]

Even if you fit 5 250 lb persons and 300 kgs of cargo in the FXT AND have the Montero Sport just with 1 driver and no cargo; the FXT will still have better Power/Weight Ratio.

Which just means the MS is a heavy ass vehicle.


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I bet no one will ever try putting 5 BIG people with a 300 kg payload on a CUV or PPV or SUV. That's an extreme condition, even big Americans will not do it on their big SUVs.

I couldn't even imagine 5 NFL linebackers/tackles squeezing themselves on something like an Expedition.