The Perpetual NBA Thread

**empy** · November 20th, 2006 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by RMean

^ bumaba ba shooting %tage nio?

medyo. from 15% naging 10% :bwahaha:

mas makapit siya sa kamay, so mas masarap i-dribble. pero iba nga ang bitaw galing sa kamay mo so you have to get used to it. tapos para siyang may glue na kumakapit sa rim :hihihi: may mga tira ako na sapul na sapul yung back iron...but instead of bouncing far up in the air, it died on the rim and dropped into the hoop

**theveed** · November 20th, 2006 02:03 PM

I really feel bad for hard-working superstars that can't get any support... AI, KG and Pierce should have better endings to their stellar individual accomplishments.

Ibang usapan yung kagaya ni Nash, Kidd, Dirk etc that has the supporting cast but falls short vs. Lone Ranger type of scenario...

**mazdamazda** · November 20th, 2006 02:15 PM

I really feel for KG at this point. Mikes James & Ricky Davis are ok but they are still lacking even for a playoffs run. They should play Foye more than Hassell IMO.

**chain** · November 20th, 2006 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by M54 Powered

may mga tira ako na sapul na sapul yung back iron...but instead of bouncing far up in the air, it died on the rim and dropped into the hoop

reminds me of the three-point shot ni VC.

**empy** · November 20th, 2006 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by mazdamazda

I really feel for KG at this point.

agree, but like the article said, at least his future is in his own hands. it would not be a bad idea for him to opt out, put his $200M in the bank, and sign with the Lakers for peanuts, Karl Malone style. Pierce is a different story, since he's locked up long term. pero

sa kanya for his loyalty to his city and his organization. the guy is treated like a god in Boston, btw.

They should play Foye more than Hassell IMO.

**tsupermario** · November 20th, 2006 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by theveed

I really feel bad for hard-working superstars that can't get any support... AI, KG and Pierce should have better endings to their stellar individual accomplishments.

Ibang usapan yung kagaya ni Nash, Kidd, Dirk etc that has the supporting cast but falls short vs. Lone Ranger type of scenario...

as for KG, he also has a part in it. his huge salary is a major hindrance in getting better pieces around him. and who could forget the joe smith fiasco?

to mchale.

**theveed** · November 20th, 2006 10:30 PM

Tsuper: Of course not. All superstars have huge contracts, how in the world did the Bulls pay Scottie and Mike, Lakers with Kobe and Shaq, Dallas right now with Dirk, Terry, Damp all with huge contracts.

Bulok lang GMs nila for not spending the right money and getting into the stupid Joe Smith deal.

Money is never the main reason for a team not getting good players, almost all teams have a max-deal player at some point.

If Minnesota's management found a way to keep Cassell in Minnesota or controlled Marbury's undeveloped brain before, it'll be another story. What was their excuse with Cassell? He's old? After leaving the Wolves, Cassell blasted the perennial door-mat Clippers to the playoffs.

Even that team has highly paid athletes and a tightwad owner.

A KG should and will not be worth any less that what he's getting.

**tsupermario** · November 20th, 2006 11:21 PM

i take it that when you said "better endings to their stellar individual accomplishments" you mean a championship ring.

i agree that money is never the main reason for a team not getting good players but the team owner has to deal also with the luxury tax. dallas afaik is second or third to the knicks in terms of payroll. as for kobe and shaq, correct me if im wrong but i think kobe wasn't paid top dollar at the time of their championship run. with respect to scottie and mike.. well mike is mike and scottie is arguably the second best player during their time.

i would think that a team with a more flexible salary cap can afford to get better supporting players because players in general are greedy. kg is an excellent player and so is tim duncan. but duncan is not paid as much as kg is getting.

even with cassell i believe they still need better players to surround kg to compete deep in the playoffs.

**spiff** · November 20th, 2006 11:21 PM

i could be wrong here...

kg's contract does really hinder the growth of the team. its just way to big for a team like twolves to afford his contract plus another serviceable superstar. he has a contract larger than any other player in the league, since he signed it right before the collective bargaining agreement came into play. so once the salary cap scheme started in 2000 the twolves could not afford to pay another "superstar" since it would bring them way too much over the cap. they did it for a while with spree and cassell.. that obviously wasnt enough. what more can you get?

same thing goes with shaq's contract... heat made sure it wasn't a long term contract like what kg has.. otherwise you think they'l be able to afford dwade + a player marginally better than m doleac?

and no way i think kg is worth the money he's getting. you can get two second tier superstars for that amount. its probably 70 % of the whole detroit starting 5 that won the championship couple of years ago.

only new york and kg can make it work. maybe LA

**RMean** · November 20th, 2006 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by spiff

i could be wrong here...

same thing goes with shaq's contract... heat made sure it wasn't a long term contract like what kg has.. otherwise you think they'l be able to afford dwade + a player marginally better than m doleac?

contract ni shaq sa heat is $100M for 5 years.. last year lang siya nag sign ng contract niya.. kahit matanda (34?) na siya at mejo nagdedecline na ang game niya nakapagsign pa sya ng ganyang kalaking kontrata at 5 years pa..

maliit p nga yan eh, may paycut na yan kasi gusto ni shaq na gamitin ung binawas sa salary niya para makakuha ng decent player para makatulong sa campaign nila.. kaya nakuha si walker