The Perpetual NBA Thread

[kimpOy]

FYi lang ben wallace has a broken wrist that why hirap siyang mag shoot, pops out and it hurts, after the FT i just pop it right in....arghhh...

surgery's not an option

http://hoopshype.com/columns/ben_hans.htm

[ILuvDetailing]

aray ko maybe thats why Ben Wallace is passing up shots underneat the basket, dapat pagshoot niya wala ng follow-thru...

[theveed]

EXCUSES!!! hehehehhehe

[mazdamazda]

sa miami-detroit... who's guarding who nga ba?

shaq <-> sheed
udonis <-> ben/mcdyess
williams/payton <-> billups
wade <-> hamilton
posey/walker <-> prince

tama ba?

[theveed]

Ahh, if guarding is your question, please take out williams and walker from the list hehehe

[ILuvDetailing]

Primary defender for Shaq is Ben Wallace, if Ben Wallace is sitting either Rasheed or Dice or the ancient Dale Davis (spot minutes) guards Shaq.

Primary defender for Wade is Prince, then Hamilton or Hunter (spot minutes) guards Wade.

Primary defender for Billups is Payton, J-Will starts but Payton gets the 4th minutes because of his defense.

Well Detroit basically plays a matchup Zone with a man on Wade all the time.

[C#@RD]

wahh... :seeth: talo suns, kainis, wala sa rotation si raja bell injured pa rin, :ouch: malas, i hope he can play in game 4, sayang defense niya...

[theveed]

7 players, deep in the playoffs with a running opponent that has more height than you... Suns are in trouble... I wonder why they can't plug in Grant a few mins to box out Diop or Damp... Or just to bump Dirk...

Josh Howard --- Lufet... ng labi hehe... Di ata talagang nainjure yun eh hehe

[theveed]

Oooh, the Dallas Bad Boy... Jason Terry drew blood this time...

[theveed]

Josh as well... Tanggal ulo ni Tim hehe

[BoEinG_747]

galing ng miami!

parang tulog ang depensa ng pistons kahapon... I especially like jason william's assists to haslem for a dunk (ben wallace could only watch... hehe).

ang lufeettttt din talaga mag assist ni JWill

[theveed]

Diaw May stats...

18.8 PPG
6.2 RPG
6.2 APG
1 BPG

Not bad for a $1M-worth player eh? hehe

Diaw one of Hawks’ greatest blunders ever

By Mark Bradley | Thursday, May 25, 2006, 06:21 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

A year ago, Boris Diaw wasn’t deemed good enough to play in 16 games for one of the worst teams in NBA history. The same Boris Diaw scored 34 points and hit the winning basket in Game 1 of the Western Conference finals Wednesday. For all the teeth-gnashing spawned by the Hawks’ drafts over the years, their mishandling of Diaw stands as the greatest mistake since they re-upped Jon Koncak in the summer of 1989.

A confession: Based on his two seasons as a Hawk, I didn’t think Diaw could play. (Or, more precisely, I didn’t think he cared to play.) Billy Knight obviously saw something more, having drafted Diaw with the 21st pick in 2003 when Josh Howard was available. Somehow that vision wasn’t transmitted to Knight’s coaches.

Because Diaw’s two seasons here involved two head coaches — Terry Stotts in 2003-04 and Mike Woodson in 2004-05 — it’s not fair to lay the entire blame at the foot of one man. But it’s instructive that Diaw played in 10 more games and logged an average of seven more minutes as a rookie under Stotts than as a second-year man under Woodson. Diaw worked fewer minutes for a team that finished 13-69 than Tony Delk, whose career is nearly over. Think about that.

Think about an organization that claims its focus is on player development failing to develop the guy who would go to Phoenix in the Joe Johnson sign-and-trade and turn into the NBA’s Most Improved Player. Knight contends that it’s wrong to make too much of this seeming transcendence, saying the Suns’ free-flowing style can’t be compared to any other team’s. “Boris is in a good situation,” Knight said. And then: “You think having Steve Nash makes a difference?”

Which brings us, rather neatly, to larger issues: If the Suns could get the most out of one of the Hawks’ many young swingmen by playing full-tilt basketball, shouldn’t the Hawks consider doing likewise? If you’re thinking outside the box and building a roster of swingmen, do you want the stodgy Woodson — whose mentors are old-schoolers Bobby Knight and Larry Brown — as your coach? Finally, if a point guard like Nash makes so much difference, why don’t the Hawks have a point guard?

Even his detractors would concede that Knight has assembled more talent than the Hawks have had this century, but assembling talent is only half the battle. (The lesser half, actually.) To succeed, the assembly must conform to a design. Why import a rookie head coach to guide a developing team? Why not hire someone older and more patient? Why keep giving heavy minutes to Al Harrington, who won’t be part of the Hawks’ future, as opposed to Marvin Williams, who’s expected to be a cornerstone? Why not give Diaw every chance to fail?

The Hawks saw Diaw more as a point guard; the Suns, who as we know have a point guard, deploy him down low to stunning effect. When Diaw was drafted, he was touted as being able to play any position. Shouldn’t the Hawks have tried him at every position? Shouldn’t Knight have suggested that Woodson lose not with journeymen like Delk and Tom Gugliotta but with the young guys Knight has gone to such lengths to find?

Everyone makes a mistake in the draft. It’s far more alarming to have drafted a bona fide player and to see him blossom only after he’s gone. “At one point there was a label on [Diaw] that he was a soft, non-competitive player,” Phoenix coach Mike D’Antoni told reporters Wednesday night. “He’s just the opposite. … He’s one of the most competitive guys we have, just an intelligent basketball player who knows how to play.”

Presumably Diaw knew how to play all along, but the Hawks couldn’t decide what to do with him. More than the 125 losses this franchise has suffered the last two years, the Diaw fizzle stands as evidence the Hawks don’t even know what they have, let alone where they’re going.


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Oh, Jason Terry was with the Hawks as well, right? hehehe

[wulf]

yep,Diaw & Diop are two big stories this playoffs...former benchwarmers turned game-changers....diaw's been an amare for the suns while diop's been the duncan-stopper on game 7 & the key to the mavs defense versus the suns...their former teams must be kicking themselves in the head for not being patient and giving these guys the opportunities/confidence they're getting from their new teams

[ILuvDetailing]

Eng eng talaga management ng Hawks, ok I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on the JJ-Diaw trade, but passing up on Cris Paul is as boneheaded as Portland passing up on MJ. They don't have a bonafide PG in their roster and what do they do? They draft another SF in their already crowded swingmen rotation.

[Eismann]

Historically Detroit plays its best with its backs against the wall, being a veteran team, I expect them to make adjustments to counter Miami's attack. Ben Wallace practice your FTs .

Let's see if this is true.....they're down 10 with ~2 minutes left before halftime.

[mazdamazda]

humabol ang detroit before the half... cutting the 10 point lead to 6.

[Eismann]

SHEED is on fire....9 pts na sa 3rd....Pistons up 4....kaso he pciked up his 3rd....bench uli.

[Eismann]

Sori, 4th foul na pala ni Sheed yung kasy Shaq...malamang 4th qrtr pa sya ulit lalaro.

[Eismann]

Damn, two misses by Shaq sa FT. Sayang....

[cardo]

naku 5pf na si sheed