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    #41
    one thing appears clear to me.
    the project was rushed, with the usual "safeguards" bypassed.
    i do not think doh has the authority nor the panache to do that.
    but i believe these were done because they believed in the product, that it will save lives.
    after all, death by dengue is a common headline in our newspapers.

    history and the current temperature, have different ways of judging things.

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    #42
    grabe hagulgul ng nanay....... dahil sa dengvaxia nagkasakit pa sa bato yung anak.....

    pag may naupload na video irepost ko.....

    ang dami kumita ng kwarta dito....

    itong si janet garin pinagkawalang kwenta health secretary..

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    #43
    its like they got a death letter too soon 😑

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    grabe hagulgul ng nanay....... dahil sa dengvaxia nagkasakit pa sa bato yung anak.....

    pag may naupload na video irepost ko.....

    ang dami kumita ng kwarta dito....

    itong si janet garin pinagkawalang kwenta health secretary..
    tekateka...
    nagkasakit sa bato..?
    baka naman, lahat na nang sakit ng sangkatauhan ay i-sisisi sa denggoyvaxia na yan..!
    heh heh.

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    #45
    doc inaantay ko lang mailagay sa youtube ng channel2 yung news nila kanina about dengvaxia....

    sobrang alarming na ito.... sunod-sunod na natitigok at yung side-effect..... eh mga poor families pa lang nababalita..... wala ba balita na may kwarta nainjectionan nyan yung sa private clinic nagpaturok...

    grabe tinesting talaga without thinking sa consequence..... may anak ba ito si janet garin.... dapat turukan din...

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    #46
    oh ito na.....

    naantig ako doon sa hagulgul ng nanay.... pwede pa ba ma-purge sa katawan yan.... kasi baka for life na nya dadalhin effects ng dengvaxia...



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    #47
    Any unfortunate casualties from the other nations w/c ok'd the use of dengvaxia too?

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    #48
    The govt is really in a difficult situation because of the recent developments. It all started with a good intention but somewhere kasi may something fishy eh as divulged by witnesses now.
    Im not a doctor but DOH said that this vaccine cannot prevent one from falling to dengue...kasi nga may 4 types ata itong dengue. Eh ang ma prevent lang nito according sa DOH ay yung type ng dengue na nasa bakuna na ito...type 4 if im not mistaken...and mas malalang strain ito ng dengue. In Brazil,Singapore and other countries,12-45 years old lang ang pwede,pero sa atin 9 years pwede na.
    Again,the intent is good but as to the method, doon nagka problema.
    Ive had dengue na and got hospitalized for 4 days. My wife got dengue twice and never hospitalized (nalaman lang nung nagpa check up coz of flu like symptoms and sa stage na pagaling na). We never knew where we got it kasi wala namang ibang may dengue sa area namin. Hopefully,lahat ng nakapag avail ng dengvaxia na ito ay maka recover at maging ok na ang lahat. Im praying for those families kasi if you've experienced dengue,grabe ang sakit sa katawan at ulo at yung uncertainty kung mabubuhay ka pa ba or hindi na.

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    doc inaantay ko lang mailagay sa youtube ng channel2 yung news nila kanina about dengvaxia....

    sobrang alarming na ito.... sunod-sunod na natitigok at yung side-effect..... eh mga poor families pa lang nababalita..... wala ba balita na may kwarta nainjectionan nyan yung sa private clinic nagpaturok...

    grabe tinesting talaga without thinking sa consequence..... may anak ba ito si janet garin.... dapat turukan din...
    This is from Cito Beltran who supported Duterte:

    I am a parent of one of those estimated 700,000 students, who made a decision to willingly have my daughter Hannah vaccinated against Dengue. But unlike those in the public school system, we had to pay P3,400 per dose or P10,200 for the required triple dose. When we decided to do so, it was based on the fact that Dengue was prevalent and deadly. It was also because my wife had experienced what Dengue was like first hand. Our decision was based on the presumption of regularity and best knowledge. Now comes new information that the product promise may be the complete opposite based on additional studies.

    I am writing this article in reaction to the useless and panic inducing statements of politicians and anti-vaccine proponents whose Chicken Little behavior are not helping the ill informed but merely promoting themselves.


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    #50
    sa philippine children medical hospital jan na pala dinadala mga nabakunahan ng dengvaxia...

    may napanuod pa ako namanas yung babaeng bata....

    dapat talaga meron makulong dito....

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    #51
    Oh admission of guilt na ito sa dengvaxia




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    #52
    wow grabe ang sama talaga...... diredirecho na labas side-effects...



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    #54
    this guy --> Scott B. Halstead MD predicted what would happen

    article date: July 28, 2016

    Contrary dengue vaccine response hints at possible problems with Zika | CIDRAP

    excerpts:

    his reaction when the WHO approved Dengvaxia:

    "It's happened. We have a vaccine that enhances dengue," said Scott B. Halstead, MD, talking about a phenomenon whereby the dengue vaccine sets up dengue-naive recipients for severe disease.
    “It's clear as the nose on my face: Vaccine recipients less than 5 years old had five to seven times more rates of hospitalizations for severe dengue virus than placebo controls."
    --

    before being called Dengvaxia, the vaccine was called CYD-TDV short for Chimeric Yellow Fever-Dengue, Live-Attenuated, Tetravalent Dengue Vaccine

    it has a yellow fever backbone, live but weakened 4 strains of dengue virus

    he said:

    "The vaccine is even worse than an infection, because it has all different antibodies that wane over time, and the T cells from yellow fever," Halstead said.
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    during clinical trials, Sanofi noticed higher hospitalization rates on children 5 years or younger (never infected with dengue)

    Using Sanofi Pasteur's data from the phase 3 clinical trials of Dengvaxia, which involved more than 35,000 children in 10 dengue-endemic countries, they showed that, during year 3 of the trial, among children ages 5 years or younger, 54.2% of whom were seronegative on enrollment, the dengue hospitalization rate was significantly higher among vaccinees than controls. The rate was 0.99% for the former (20 of 2,029) and 0.2% for the latter (2 of 1,005), a relative risk of 4.95, which translates into a fivefold risk of hospitalization.
    Sanofi knew the vaccine was harmful to those who have never been infected

    that is why in our mass vaccination program, they only vaccinated those 9 yrs old and above

    the thinking was, in a dengue-prevalent country like the PH, you're likely to have been infected by age 9
    Last edited by uls; January 23rd, 2018 at 07:30 PM.

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    it was only assumed that everyone above 9 has already been infected

    but of course many weren't infected yet but got vaccinated anyway

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    For Halstead, concerns about Zika and ADE are interesting but are so far only projections. He’s more worried about what he sees in Dengvaxia. He said the Philippines just bought 1 million doses of the vaccine, with intentions to begin inoculating 9-year-olds across the country. That could mean thousands of children could be affected by dengue ADE.
    Halstead:

    "I don't understand why there seems to be some sort of silent majority on this," said Halstead. "Seronegatives are going to be sensitized to dengue virus for the rest of their lives, and it's not going to stop at hospitalizations.

    "Someone is going to die. Once that happens there's enough lawyers that are going to do something about it."
    He predicted it
    Last edited by uls; January 23rd, 2018 at 07:28 PM.

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    #56
    This is becoming the SUA of medicine. Lahat ng meron mangyari sa mga anak nila kahit siguro masagsaan, I-attribute nila sa vaccine. [emoji23]


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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    sa philippine children medical hospital jan na pala dinadala mga nabakunahan ng dengvaxia...

    may napanuod pa ako namanas yung babaeng bata....

    dapat talaga meron makulong dito....
    At bakit mo ako ipakulong samantalang wala naman akong "alam" dyan?

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    #58
    Nakapagtataka bakit sa mga nabakunahan lang ng government natin ng free nag ka problem. Bat sa mga private doctors ni isa walang nag reklamo sa mga na bakunahan nila. E parehas lang naman supplier ng vaccine gamit nila.

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by mokong22 View Post
    Nakapagtataka bakit sa mga nabakunahan lang ng government natin ng free nag ka problem. Bat sa mga private doctors ni isa walang nag reklamo sa mga na bakunahan nila.

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    Tingin ko hinde tinapos yun 3 rounds, tapos kakaita ko lang sa tv Patrol yun namatay na bata pinipilit ng Parents dahil sa vaccine eh meron pa lang sakit sa puso.


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    #60
    nagkagulo-gulo na nga.... mga doctor nagtuturuan....

    at ang favorite ko si noynoy wala pa din alam...

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