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    #21
    kung sa us ito... bankrupt na ang sanofi

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    so they stopped vaccination

    3 shots yan eh

    0/6/12 months

    so hindi na mag booster shots?

    that's even worse

    those kids get only 1 shot and their bodies won't make enough antibodies without boosters
    Thats the executive decision this admin will have to make in order to show if they truly have the POLITICAL WILL at TUNAY NA MALASAKIT

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    Good thing may pedia advised against immediate dengue vaccination precisely due to the reason cited in the report.
    Galing talaga. Sabi niya mukang effective ang dengue vaccine kung nagka-dengue ka na before. It is like the anti-bodies or whatever you got from the first infection is boosted by the vaccine. Pero kung hindi ka pa na-dengue tapos turok ng vaccine, there is nothing to boost. Kampante ka pang maglalabas hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Good thing may pedia advised against immediate dengue vaccination precisely due to the reason cited in the report.
    Galing talaga. Sabi niya mukang effective ang dengue vaccine kung nagka-dengue ka na before. It is like the anti-bodies or whatever you got from the first infection is boosted by the vaccine. Pero kung hindi ka pa na-dengue tapos turok ng vaccine, there is nothing to boost. Kampante ka pang maglalabas hehehe
    ganito explain sakin ng isang nerd friend

    dengue meron type 1 2 3 4

    pag na-infect ka for the first time (let's say type 1), your body will fight it and you'll recover fully

    so meron ka na antibodies against type 1, and you also get some protection against type 2 3 4

    but over time, protection against 2 3 4 will wane

    but protection against type 1 will remain strong

    then na-infect ka ng type 4

    yung type 1 antibody can still recognize type 4 but doesn't give enough protection

    but your body thinks the type 1 antibodies are handling type 4, keeps on making type 1 antibodies but type 4 isn't being neutralized

    so the virus goes on replicating
    Last edited by uls; December 4th, 2017 at 05:11 PM.

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    Basta pwedeng ma infect tao ng 4 different dengue strains.


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    700,000+.. sad

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    Pnoy committed Genocide na daw sabi ng mga DEDE-ES. [emoji23]

    Pero mas marami pa yata na bakunahan itong sa term ni dutiti.


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    it just seemed rushed no matter how you look at it

    Sanofi probably pushed the vaccine to us and somebody on our side had incentive to make the deal happen

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    Sanofi invested 20 years and a lot of money developing the vaccine

    Naturally they had to recover their investment

    So syempre they had to push the vaccine to dengue-prevalent countries

    Selling the vaccine through doctors would take forever

    To make large million-unit sales they had to sell the vaccine to governments for mass immunization

    Last edited by uls; December 5th, 2017 at 02:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it just seemed rushed no matter how you look at it

    Sanofi probably pushed the vaccine to us and somebody on our side had incentive to make the deal happen
    We are the guinea pigs.

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    Ms Garin is now an adviser of Speaker Pantaleon Alvarez, and has, in an effort to escape responsibility, laid the blame for the vaccine mess on her then boss, then President Benigno Aquino III. According to reports, she claimed that Aquino was the one who negotiated with Sanofi Pasteur, the producer of the vaccine, in December 2015, and was the one who decided to go ahead with the immunization program.

    Garin met with Sanofi in May 215 | Inquirer Opinion

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    she may have been the health secretary then.
    but it is also true, that she had many advisers, who are supposed to be more knowledgeable than her, in these matters.
    if i were me, i would have simply said, "mea culpa. my bad. the buck stops here."

    pag dissect ng investigation, dun lalabas ang kung sino ang nag-advise ng ano.

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    ted failon in his morning radio program commented someoned rushed the dengue vaccine as if its a matter of LIFE & DEATH

    hindi ba nakakamatay ang dengue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    ted failon in his morning radio program commented someoned rushed the dengue vaccine as if its a matter of LIFE & DEATH

    hindi ba nakakamatay ang dengue?

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    Thats the same guy who kept blaming Mitsubishi for the SUA of the Montero and the prime suspect in his wife's alleged suicide a few years ago.

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    The issue has been politicized

    Sanofi invested a lot of time and money to bring the vaccine to market

    Naturally they're gonna push it

    The same way big pharma sends medreps to doctors

    The vaccine was projected to be a blockbuster

    Andami bansa endemic ang dengue

    The goal is to sell the vaccine to governments for mass immunization

    Millions of units per deal yan

    Malas lang ng past admin na-salestalk sila into buying the vaccine

    Too early

    First dengue vaccine ever

    Since hindsight is 20/20 the govt should have waited for newer vaccines that solved flaws in the 1st
    Last edited by uls; December 10th, 2017 at 02:02 PM.

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    They wanted to be the hero(es) ... and save the country ...

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    Wala pa bang antidote yan para ma flushout sa katawan ng mga bata yang itinurok sa kanila.

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    politician yan makakalusot yan saka madami kasabwat yan sa laki ng amount involved definitely madami kumita dyan 😂

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    Informing the public is one thing. Raising alarm when there is no reason to do so is plain gimmickry and irresponsibility.

    With Acosta taking center stage in the investigation of the claims of some parents that their child may have been innocent victims of Dengvaxia vaccination, we are wont to ask if the lady lawyer is a medico-legal expert or a pathologist.

    With her taking a high-profile role in the inquiry, maybe she should avoid blood and thunder dramatic effects to ensure that her statements do not cause undue alarm. Showing class and sobriety may even enhance her projection as Senate material.

    She should not fall into the same trap – of overacting – that has all but killed the senatorial chances of the head of the Volunteers Against Crime and Corruption.

    When Acosta was mentioned recently by no less than President Rodrigo Duterte as a candidate for the Supreme Court, she did not hide her eagerness. Sadly, she bombed the public hearing conducted by the Judicial and Bar Council. Another lesson for her?


    http://beta.philstar.com/opinion/201...g-dengue-probe

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