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    #18461
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i am mulling over getting an appropriately filtered, powered respirator / mask.
    nakaka-inis yung resistance, init, at lens-fogging issues ng usual masks.
    May nakikita ako doc yung mask na may parang tube na naka connect sa isang gadget...




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    #18462
    adenoviruses and neurological side effects.

    Covid-19 Vaccines: Adenoviruses and Coronavirus Latest Research News and Updates - Bloomberg

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    adenoviruses and neurological side effects.

    Covid-19 Vaccines: Adenoviruses and Coronavirus Latest Research News and Updates - Bloomberg

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    #18463
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    adenoviruses and neurological side effects.

    Covid-19 Vaccines: Adenoviruses and Coronavirus Latest Research News and Updates - Bloomberg

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    adenoviruses and neurological side effects.

    Covid-19 Vaccines: Adenoviruses and Coronavirus Latest Research News and Updates - Bloomberg
    Ayan

    Those adenovirus vector vaccines are in trouble

    Doon nalang ako sa low tech traditional whole virus vaccines ng China

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    #18464

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    #18465
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    May nakikita ako doc yung mask na may parang tube na naka connect sa isang gadget...




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    yan nga atbp.

    or yung astronaut helmet. it's from canada, and i yet have to see an entrepreneur offering it locally.

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    #18466
    Puede din electric face masks with N95 filters

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    #18467
    Vaccine: Getting close to the finish line
    BABE’S EYE VIEW FROM WASHINGTON D.C. - Ambassador B. Romualdez (The Philippine Star
    ) - October 18, 2020 - 12:00am

    Vaccine: Getting close to the finish line | Philstar.com

    I was shocked to find out that DOH Secretary Duque has not signed a simple thing as a CDA with Pfizer.

    I’m still dumbfounded why Sec. Duque has not signed the CDA. The other day, the State Department informed us the US government has ordered an excess of vaccines which they said will be made available to “close allies” like the Philippines. But what can I say? Countries like Japan, Thailand, Vietnam and so many others are already ahead of us.

    Several big corporations such as ICTSI, SM, the Lucio Tan Group, San Miguel, the PLDT Group and other entities with a large number of employees have signified their intention to purchase the Pfizer vaccines for their workers and their families, significantly reducing the need for DOH to purchase the vaccines as they will just need our government’s approval.

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    #18468
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    pareho sa natural infection -- pag nahawa mga 60 and up mabagal ang immune response

    kaya nagiging severe and critical mga older people coz the virus is able to multiply without a lot of interference

    by the time the immune system decides to respond the viral load is already high so the immune system goes crazy trying to fight the virus --- the exaggerated immune response injures/kills the person

    sa mas bata mabilis ang immune response... the immune system is able to suppress the virus early

    kaya no symptoms or mild lang

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    #18469
    parang everyone once in a while nabubuhay ang discussion tungkol sa mask

    the bottom line is you need to get society to cooperate wearing mask

    kahit cloth mask o surgical mask basta lahat ng tao naka mask properly mababawasan ang infection rate

    kahit naka N95 ka kung ang kausap mo tumatalsik ang droplets and microdroplets you'll get virus on your skin your hair your clothes

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    #18470
    i wonder, which is better?
    the correct mask worn incorrectly or infrequently,
    or the incorrect mask worn correctly and frequently?

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    #18471
    you're protecting people around you when you sneeze into a kleenex

    you're not protecting people around you when you sneeze directly into the air

    you're effin selfish

    you're selfish when you're not wearing a mask or not wearing it properly

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    #18472
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    This is what I use.

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    Thanks. We have N95 at home, my Aunt bought it in January before the pandemic hit hard pero more or less 10 pcs lang so I use surgical mask. I got one in shopee made it Vietnam and it's 4 ply, looks very well made at I did the tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Best way to test a mask is trying to blow out a candle... if you can, it's not good enough...
    Yes I do the water, fire and blow tests when I buy a mask

    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i am mulling over getting an appropriately filtered, powered respirator / mask.
    nakaka-inis yung resistance, init, at lens-fogging issues ng usual masks.
    doc when I first wore e mask grabe ang fogging but when I figured it out, dapat naka press or kapit talaga sa bridge ng nose yung mask

    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    May nakikita ako doc yung mask na may parang tube na naka connect sa isang gadget...



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    Uncomfortable talaga to breathe with a mask pero grabe naman yung may ganyan unless may lung issue yung tao. My Lola is 94 yrs old and she could wear a mask for 3 to 4 hrs ng walang tanggalan

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    you're protecting people around you when you sneeze into a kleenex

    you're not protecting people around you when you sneeze directly into the air

    you're effin selfish

    you're selfish when you're not wearing a mask or not wearing it properly
    YES this makes me feel so frustrated, I went to the palengke last Friday at may vendors na wala talaga mask. Now I feel paranoid baka I caught something Minsan kasi hindi automatic nag register sakin na the person does not have mask pala. Pero yung vendors na nasa "labasan" naka mask talaga, I guess kasi dahil kita at mabilis masita.
    Last edited by _Cathy_; October 18th, 2020 at 11:12 AM.

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    I wonder though pag dating ng summer if most people would still wear face mask and face shield especially pag nasa labas lang at hindi air conditioned. Hirap talaga huminga ng face mask at face shield combo but since mostly nasa mall kami namimili eh hindi masyado mahirap. I haven't tried it on sidewalks yet with scorching heat of the sun.

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    #18474
    Come next month expect more people won’t be wearing face masks and will be going out in clusters. Filipino memory is a curse.


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    i think face masks will be in for the long haul here in pinas. i mean even before the pandemic broke out, there were a lot of pinoys who were wearing them already either because


    a. they were afflicted w/ the common cough and cold, or

    b. it was to protect themselves from the dust and automotive exhaust out on the pavement, w/c is a pandemic in itself.

    as for face shields, i was in the mall last night and i noticed they're now becoming fashion statements too. i myself decided to replace my large and forehead digging face shield to a sleeker more comfy acrylic one. i even bought one w/ an eye catching royal blue frame just for kicks. but i have a tinge of buyer's regret because i think i want the purple one
    Last edited by baludoy; October 18th, 2020 at 12:24 PM.

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    #18476
    When you abandon health protocols at the first sign of the drop in new cases... Forever na ang mask wearing.

    Whole of Europe now has more new cases vs USA. Winter is coming.


    Last edited by Monseratto; October 18th, 2020 at 12:31 PM.

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    #18477
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    i think face masks will be in for the long haul here in pinas. i mean even before the pandemic broke out, there were a number pinoys who were wearing them already either because they were

    a. afflicted w/ the common cough and cold, or

    b. it was to protect themselves from the dust and automotive exhaust out on the pavement, w/c is a pandemic in itself.

    as for face shields, i was in the mall last night and i noticed face shields are now becoming fashion statements too. i myself decided to replace my large and forehead digging face shield to a sleeker more comfy acrylic one. i even bought one w/ an eye catching royal blue frame just for kicks. but i have a tinge of buyer's regret because i think i want the purple one
    in due time,
    as in everything,
    things will evolve, becoming more effective, more comfortable, and more fashionable.

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    #18479
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    When you abandon health protocols at the first sign of the drop in new cases... Forever na ang mask wearing.

    Whole of Europe now has more new cases vs USA. Winter is coming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in due time,
    as in everything,
    things will evolve, becoming more effective, more comfortable, and more fashionable.
    I don't want to live in a world of face masks and face shields. Kawawa din mga seniors spending their retirement at home when they should be enjoying their lives at least seeing family and friends.

    I can deal with masks pa but the shield is SO UNCOMFORTABLE. Ang hirap talaga makakita and I don't know if I am talking too loud kasi iba tunog when I wear a shield. Mabubulok na ata mga make up ko Sa mundo ngayon di na importante mukha kasi natatakpan, katawan na dapat pagandahin talaga hehe.

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    #18480
    Decades ago ... people also thought bottled water was a silly idea ...

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