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    #16741
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Isa pa dapat malaman sa trial kung ako effect sa mga meron ibang sakit.


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    madami considerations actually

    test subjects are usually young, healthy adults

    pero the elderly -- sila ang mas kailangan ng protection against the virus

    pero di sila kasali sa clinical trials if i'm not mistaken

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    #16742
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    madami considerations actually

    test subjects are usually young, healthy adults

    pero the elderly -- sila ang mas kailangan ng protection against the virus

    pero di sila kasali sa clinical trials if i'm not mistaken
    "the immune systems of the possibly immunocompromised (the very young and the elderly) might not react in the same manner as that of the general healthy population."
    employing these test subjects might throw off the conclusions of the test research.

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    #16743
    yes that is why elderly people aren't chosen as test subjects

    but elderly people will need the vaccine more than younger people

    if a vaccine elicits a strong immune response in young healthy subjects it may not necessarily elicit the same response in older people

    that's gonna be a problem going forward

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    #16744
    i mean we'd like our senior parents to be able to go out again

    if a vaccine won't be very effective for them they'll have top stay put longer than the rest of the population

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    #16745
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    by gulay...
    magtanong ka sa tindahan! sa internet! sa carousell!
    ang daming nagtitinda niyan.
    heh heh.

    kung ayaw mong bumili,
    wag ka na lang lumabas nang bahai.

    dok ang hinahanap ko 3M N95 na tagah presyo.

    Ang available na mura he KN95. MAgtatry din ako.

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    #16746
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    dok ang hinahanap ko 3M N95 na tagah presyo.

    Ang available na mura he KN95. MAgtatry din ako.
    Bakit ka pa mag mask, may Lianhua ka naman.
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    #16747
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    dok ang hinahanap ko 3M N95 na tagah presyo.

    Ang available na mura he KN95. MAgtatry din ako.
    Ayaw mo china KN95 1box 10 pcs, P95.00 sa shopee at lazada?

    Meron din 3M N95 from P200 to P300.




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    #16748
    eh boybi, syempre sunod ako sa governemnt na dapat mag mask. At pumapasok kasi ako ng opisna ng cliente at supplier so doon ako sa mask na sureball. Pero hindi talaga ako tumatambay sa office nila, lumalabas talaga ako, buti yung office na pinupuntahna ko may terrace kada floor. Bale bawat hagdanan pag akyat mo sa floor eh bubungad sayo terrace na nakabukas pinto. So marunogn yung nagdevelop may aliwalas may yosi break na veranda. But i dont yosi ah. I rather cigar if the situation permits.

    Flipo,

    hindi pa kasi ako gumagastos ngayon sa mask. Yung 3M N95 and surgical mask eh puro katas ng kadugo. Hindi pa ako bumubunot.

    Eh ngayon bibili na ako kaya mamimili ako sino mura at quality jan KN95.

    pero kabwisit yung pangtatagah sa 3M. From 45pesos each biglang tagah, Ito pala matanng ko bakit madami klase serial yung 3M na may valbula? Iisa itsura pero iba-iba code tapos iba din pricing.

    https://shopee.ph/Ready-Stock-3M-N95...177.4341712596






    EDIT: ayun nabasa ko na diperensya

    9501VT, 9501V, 9502V ‘s Filter rating is KN95, which means the filtration effect is over 95%

    9001V ,9002V‘s Filter rating is KN90, which means the filtration effect is over 90%

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    #16749
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    eh boybi, syempre sunod ako sa governemnt na dapat mag mask. At pumapasok kasi ako ng opisna ng cliente at supplier so doon ako sa mask na sureball. Pero hindi talaga ako tumatambay sa office nila, lumalabas talaga ako, buti yung office na pinupuntahna ko may terrace kada floor. Bale bawat hagdanan pag akyat mo sa floor eh bubungad sayo terrace na nakabukas pinto. So marunogn yung nagdevelop may aliwalas may yosi break na veranda. But i dont yosi ah. I rather cigar if the situation permits.
    For compliance lang pala, mag single ply cotton face mask ka nalang para hindi ka mahirapan huminga.

    Btw, bawal na daw mga N95 with valve.
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    #16750
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    eh boybi, syempre sunod ako sa governemnt na dapat mag mask. At pumapasok kasi ako ng opisna ng cliente at supplier so doon ako sa mask na sureball. Pero hindi talaga ako tumatambay sa office nila, lumalabas talaga ako, buti yung office na pinupuntahna ko may terrace kada floor. Bale bawat hagdanan pag akyat mo sa floor eh bubungad sayo terrace na nakabukas pinto. So marunogn yung nagdevelop may aliwalas may yosi break na veranda. But i dont yosi ah. I rather cigar if the situation permits.

    Flipo,

    hindi pa kasi ako gumagastos ngayon sa mask. Yung 3M N95 and surgical mask eh puro katas ng kadugo. Hindi pa ako bumubunot.

    Eh ngayon bibili na ako kaya mamimili ako sino mura at quality jan KN95.

    pero kabwisit yung pangtatagah sa 3M. From 45pesos each biglang tagah, Ito pala matanng ko bakit madami klase serial yung 3M na may valbula? Iisa itsura pero iba-iba code tapos iba din pricing.

    https://shopee.ph/Ready-Stock-3M-N95...177.4341712596






    EDIT: ayun nabasa ko na diperensya

    9501VT, 9501V, 9502V ‘s Filter rating is KN95, which means the filtration effect is over 95%

    9001V ,9002V‘s Filter rating is KN90, which means the filtration effect is over 90%
    hindi pang-covid yang may balbula.
    pang-pintor yang may balbula.
    read the lyrics, po.

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    #16751
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    dok ang hinahanap ko 3M N95 na tagah presyo.

    Ang available na mura he KN95. MAgtatry din ako.
    Why are you worried about masks when you can have lhqm?

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    #16752
    Quote Originally Posted by teukie View Post
    Why are you worried about masks when you can have lhqm?
    because he knows we will all laugh long and hard, if he says he can't find lhqm.
    and he can't very well admit that he doesn't believe in the thing.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 17th, 2020 at 12:53 AM.

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    #16753
    This is ****ing crazy! They're now requiring private companies to do PCR testing on their employees every 4 weeks? Gusto na ba talaga nila magsara na lang lahat ng negosyo?


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    #16754
    Yun vaccinea umpisahan nila trial sa mga inmates.


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    #16755
    Ganyang mga DDS, basta meron ka reklamo sa govt kukuyugin ka.

    Who is Joie Cruz and why are Duterte fanatics and trolls attacking her?


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    #16756
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ganyang mga DDS, basta meron ka reklamo sa govt kukuyugin ka.

    Who is Joie Cruz and why are Duterte fanatics and trolls attacking her?


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    as in decades past,
    arguments should stick to the issues and not to the people who brought the issues up.

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    #16757
    So we should expect the announcement/late night madness tonight or better yet tomorrow.

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    #16758
    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    So we should expect the announcement/late night madness tonight or better yet tomorrow.
    Pinapanood mo pa ba? Next morning ko na lang panoorin sa news or basahin kung ako sinabi. 90% walang kwenta sinasabi.


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    #16759
    Under the latest DTI-DoLE JMC 20-04-A (15 August 2020) on the supplemental guidelines on workplace prevention and control of the China Virus, masks with vents are not allowed to be used

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    #16760
    since confirmed na infected si ano and magkakasama ang cabinet sa eroplano papunta at presumably pabalik galing davao city last week sa private plane, hindi ba dapat nag observe sila ng quarantine ?

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