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    #15301
    kaya pinagdududahan ang rapid test

    madami naka experience ng tulad naexperience mu... ung positive sa rapid pero negative sa swab

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kaya pinagdududahan ang rapid test

    madami naka experience ng tulad naexperience mu... ung positive sa rapid pero negative sa swab
    part of the problem, is the interpretation of the result.
    it is not a simple black-and-white, yes-or-no type of result.

    it is more of,
    yes-but, or
    no-but,
    type of result.

    unless one is familiar with the antigen-antibody interactions,
    it is easy to get to the in-correct conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    part of the problem, is the interpretation of the result.
    it is not a simple black-and-white, yes-or-no type of result.

    it is more of,
    yes-but, or
    no-but,
    type of result.

    unless one is familiar with the antigen-antibody interactions,
    it is easy to get to the in-correct conclusion.
    So much better if you consult a doctor or a medical technologist to confirm and explain your result. But like you said this is a new virus and not written in medical journal or books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kaya pinagdududahan ang rapid test

    madami naka experience ng tulad naexperience mu... ung positive sa rapid pero negative sa swab
    And some LGUs are now requiring non-residents, even delivery personnel of essential goods, to get rapid tests first before entering their province.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    So the term "new normal" really should be a more involved system where previous setups are overhauled and made to work with safety foremost in mind.
    in another thread we were talking about how the virus disrupted many business models

    those that have to do with people together in one place

    like bars/clubs restos

    cruise lines, airlines, hotels, casinos, theme parks, commercial real estate, malls, schools, church, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    So much better if you consult a doctor or a medical technologist to confirm and explain your result. But like you said this is a new virus and not written in medical journal or books.

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    many of our local medical technologists are not "trained to interpret nor make decisions for further management", nor are they authorized to do so. duktor lang po ang otorizado, as per philippine law.
    huwag natin sila ilagay sa alanganin.

    consult the knowledgeable doctor.
    be aware, however, that some doctors may not know the nuances of the disease, its diagnosis, and its management.
    "it is still a new disease."
    Last edited by dr. d; July 28th, 2020 at 11:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    in another thread we were talking about how the virus disrupted many business models

    those that have to do with people together in one place

    like bars/clubs restos

    cruise lines, airlines, hotels, casinos, theme parks, commercial real estate, malls, schools, church, etc...
    We need to innovate. The faster we can come up with alternative setups, the faster we can recover. I just wonder if some businesses can cover the cost even if solutions become available.

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    Basta wala ng socializing ngayon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Basta wala ng socializing ngayon.


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    puede pa naman.
    by internet.
    "the bigger the monitor, the better."
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Basta wala ng socializing ngayon.


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    Paano na yung mga scholar ng mga matulungin dito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Paano na yung mga scholar ng mga matulungin dito?
    Online lang din muna daw.

    BTT
    My SC aunt is positive. Nakaadmit ngayon, with pneumonia. Pero sabi ng doc, hindi pa malala at naagapan daw.

    1st swab, negative pero sa 2nd swab, positive na

    Hindi lumalabas auntie ko, anak niya lang lumalabas ng bahay, so most likely, dala ng anak niya pero walang symptoms anak niya. Ngayon naka isolate na pinsan ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    Online lang din muna daw.

    BTT
    My SC aunt is positive. Nakaadmit ngayon, with pneumonia. Pero sabi ng doc, hindi pa malala at naagapan daw.

    1st swab, negative pero sa 2nd swab, positive na

    Hindi lumalabas auntie ko, anak niya lang lumalabas ng bahay, so most likely, dala ng anak niya pero walang symptoms anak niya. Ngayon naka isolate na pinsan ko.

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    i hope she recovers soon.

    naku...
    pag na-basa ni cathy ito,
    lalong madidismayah yon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    Online lang din muna daw.

    BTT
    My SC aunt is positive. Nakaadmit ngayon, with pneumonia. Pero sabi ng doc, hindi pa malala at naagapan daw.

    1st swab, negative pero sa 2nd swab, positive na

    Hindi lumalabas auntie ko, anak niya lang lumalabas ng bahay, so most likely, dala ng anak niya pero walang symptoms anak niya. Ngayon naka isolate na pinsan ko.

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    Hope she recovers soon. Ganyan din nangyari sa kilala ko. Di lumalabas yung mag-asawang SC. Pero yung mga anak pumapasok sa office at doon din umuuwi sa kanila. Asymptomatic pala yung mga anak. Both have been hospitalized.

    Best have separate living arrangements for people still going out for work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i hope she recovers soon.

    naku...
    pag na-basa ni cathy ito,
    lalong madidismayah yon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Hope she recovers soon. Ganyan din nangyari sa kilala ko. Di lumalabas yung mag-asawang SC. Pero yung mga anak pumapasok sa office at doon din umuuwi sa kanila. Asymptomatic pala yung mga anak. Both have been hospitalized.

    Best have separate living arrangements for people still going out for work.
    Thanks. Sana all end well.

    Kawawa mga SC, daling tamaan. Yun pinsan ko na 20s ni konte walang nararamdaman daw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    And some LGUs are now requiring non-residents, even delivery personnel of essential goods, to get rapid tests first before entering their province.
    sigurado may lulusot diyan

    madami may virus nagnenegative sa rapid test

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    sigurado may lulusot diyan

    madami may virus nagnenegative sa rapid test
    you mean the purveyors of counterfeit test results?
    these folks should be jailed.

    and yes. timing of the test is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    My SC aunt is positive. Nakaadmit ngayon, with pneumonia. Pero sabi ng doc, hindi pa malala at naagapan daw.

    1st swab, negative pero sa 2nd swab, positive na

    Hindi lumalabas auntie ko, anak niya lang lumalabas ng bahay, so most likely, dala ng anak niya pero walang symptoms anak niya. Ngayon naka isolate na pinsan ko.

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    kahit tinawag na gold standard ang pcr di parin free of doubt

    like sa ct scan meron pneumonia pero negative pcr??

    pag inulit positive

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    you mean the purveyors of counterfeit test results?
    these folks should be jailed.

    and yes. timing of the test is important.
    no i mean i've heard more that 2 or 3 people tell me already they know someone who tested negative sa rapid test pero nag positive sa swab

    isa dun ka-golf ng friend ko nag positive sa swab (prior to the swab nag negative daw sa rapid)

    kinabahan ung friend ko nag pa-swab siya sa chinese gen and self quarantine

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    Just learn that 2 of my colleagues in same department got not just 1 but 2 positive on rapid igg & igm. Im now in a bit of a panic. I hope they are not positive in swab.... if you will not die of covid you will die of heart attack with this virus.

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    Pag ganyan ka doubtful ang reliability ng testing dito sa pinas, dadami talaga yang mga infected na gumagala.


    False positive daw si Zubiri sa test nung Sunday. Dead covid cells daw na nakatago sa kulangot niya yung na pick-up.
    But, could be tama yung positive at yung test ngayon ang false negative.

    Zubiri tests negative for COVID-19 after virus scare before SONA | ABS-CBN News

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