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    #12901
    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    Looks OK to me, generic terms ginamit,lalo na as much as possible bawal mag indicate ng brands even sa kaliit liitan na component when it comes to government acquisition or procurement.
    for our equipment, we always specify the specifications, but recommend the brand as well, justifying it with "our experience with the brand and model have been excellent".
    nakakalusot naman.

    once, we followed the "specifications only", with no brand.
    pues!
    ang nanalo ay isang still-to-be-heard-of brand.
    upon delivery and installation, it was obviously under-performing, even if the paper specifications were in order.
    sa inis namin... "hatakin yan at i-balik yung dating unit! kahit luma na yung dati, superior pa rin kaysa yang bago-kuno! bahala yung acquisitions office kung san nila gustong gamitin yan!"

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    #12902
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    for our equipment, we always specify the specifications, but recommend the brand as well, justifying it with "our experience with the brand and model have been excellent".
    nakakalusot naman.

    once, we followed the "specifications only", with no brand.
    pues!
    ang nanalo ay isang still-to-be-heard-of brand.
    upon delivery and installation, it was obviously under-performing, even if the paper specifications were in order.
    sa inis namin... "hatakin yan at i-balik yung dating unit! kahit luma na yung dati, superior pa rin kaysa yang bago-kuno! bahala yung acquisitions office kung san nila gustong gamitin yan!"
    True doc, esp for important parts or equipment, experience and after sales is very important. Not all things are created equal talaga.

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    #12903
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i'm not tech literate.
    so humor me, po, "what's wrong with them specs?"
    10 GB bandwidth, bandwidth is speed, GB is data allocation. Its like saying speed is 10 km instead of 10 km/h.

    At bakit kailangan wireless ang mouse ng laptop at sa desktop lang pwede wired mouse?

    Most laptop have 720p resolution, especially the cheaper ones, why the minimum needed is 1080p?

    Bluetooth required? For what? At HDMI port? Bakit ikakabit ba sa tv ang mga devices na to? So required din ba lcd TV with HDMI port?

    Pati headset over the head, while a stock cellphone headset will do the job and is cheaper.

    Dual sim kailangan sa smartphone? For what purpose? 2 sim ba gagamitin ng mga bata?

    And other small things like anti-glare led, 2 built in speakers, and the very specific color cyan blue, hindi lang kulay, very specific pa sa color pallette 71,53,0,12.

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    Last edited by BratPAQ; June 13th, 2020 at 12:23 PM.

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    #12904
    i thought laptops had built-in skating rink instead of mice?

    maybe they have a particular brand model in mind, but can't say it up front?

    heh heh.

    hanggang doon na lang ang kaalaman ko.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 13th, 2020 at 12:33 PM.

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    #12905
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    maybe they have a particular brand model in mind, but can't say it up front?
    heh heh.
    Correct, searched for the particular brand and model they prefer, took the specs, removed the "brands". Voila, you got yourself generic specs.

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    #12906
    Kung student pala ako baka hindi ako makaka enrol online kasi 12 mbps lang speed ko tapos dami requirement

    Kalokohan mga hinihingi ng decs

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    #12907
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    for our equipment, we always specify the specifications, but recommend the brand as well, justifying it with "our experience with the brand and model have been excellent".
    nakakalusot naman.

    once, we followed the "specifications only", with no brand.
    pues!
    ang nanalo ay isang still-to-be-heard-of brand.
    upon delivery and installation, it was obviously under-performing, even if the paper specifications were in order.
    sa inis namin... "hatakin yan at i-balik yung dating unit! kahit luma na yung dati, superior pa rin kaysa yang bago-kuno! bahala yung acquisitions office kung san nila gustong gamitin yan!"
    Would you believe we were eyeing for a Toyota van and we ended up with a Foton van because of these procurement guidelines. Basis was... specs complied... lowest price.

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    #12908
    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    Would you believe we were eyeing for a Toyota van and we ended up with a Foton van because of these procurement guidelines. Basis was... specs complied... lowest price.

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    Hindi kayo marunong mag-procure hehehe.
    Copy paste niyo dapat exact spec ng Toyota from their website then remove the brand when making the purchase request.

    BTW, kami sa project ni-ban ko yang Foton Commuter Van sa rentals. Mantaking mon from Laguna to NAIA, kahit 3 lang kaming laman eh sobrang uncomfortable. Sobrang pagod namin pagbaba hehehe.

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    #12909
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    for our equipment, we always specify the specifications, but recommend the brand as well, justifying it with "our experience with the brand and model have been excellent".
    nakakalusot naman.

    once, we followed the "specifications only", with no brand.
    pues!
    ang nanalo ay isang still-to-be-heard-of brand.
    upon delivery and installation, it was obviously under-performing, even if the paper specifications were in order.
    sa inis namin... "hatakin yan at i-balik yung dating unit! kahit luma na yung dati, superior pa rin kaysa yang bago-kuno! bahala yung acquisitions office kung san nila gustong gamitin yan!"
    As per COA rules, di ka pwede mag-indicate ng brand, even if the market is cornered by a single manufacturer as in the case of scientific and medical equipment. Even then you still have to justify why you are going with that manufacturer. You can tailor fit the specs such that only your preferred manufacturer is able to supply the specific model product though.

    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    Would you believe we were eyeing for a Toyota van and we ended up with a Foton van because of these procurement guidelines. Basis was... specs complied... lowest price.

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    To get around this, we put in some very specific conditions. For e.g. to keep Chinese and Russian-brands of unknown quality out of our vehicle motorpool, we specify that the manufacturer should 1. be in the international market for 100 years w/c limits the market to American, European and possible Japanese makes; and 2. must have been present in the local market for 50 years.

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    #12910
    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Hindi kayo marunong mag-procure hehehe.
    Copy paste niyo dapat exact spec ng Toyota from their website then remove the brand when making the purchase request.

    BTW, kami sa project ni-ban ko yang Foton Commuter Van sa rentals. Mantaking mon from Laguna to NAIA, kahit 3 lang kaming laman eh sobrang uncomfortable. Sobrang pagod namin pagbaba hehehe.
    May nasakyan ako na company van na ganyan. I forgot the brand but it is NOT Japanese. Mid 2000s to, Pregio or Besta ata. No kidding, pag baba ko muntik na ko masuka. When I got to my destination ang sama ng pakiramdam ko. Imagine, that was my prime age of health, early 20s ko. Ever since sinumpa ko na and I insisted sa boss ko na if I need to go out of the office, I will not ride that van and I'd rather bring my car than ride that nightmare van again.

    Yung starex ng company ang bilib ako, sobrang laspag pero matibay at comfortable

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    #12911
    Yesterday DOH number of new deaths discrepancy... just how bad DOH updates the numbers.

    Update on June 12 deaths yesterday.
    May 29 was the day DOH
    introduced fresh/late and reported 1046 cases.

    The highest reported in 2 weeks (since May 29)

    16 deaths:

    7 in Laguna
    -5 in Binan
    -1 in Cabuyao
    -1 in Calauan

    6 in Cebu
    -2 in Cebu City
    -2 in Lapu Lapu City
    -1 in Mandaue City
    -1 blank

    1 each in Manila & Mandaluyong
    1 blank

    All 16 were deaths from April 1 to May 29. 14 died before getting confirmed COVID positive.
    LATE.
    😢

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    #12912
    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    Would you believe we were eyeing for a Toyota van and we ended up with a Foton van because of these procurement guidelines. Basis was... specs complied... lowest price.

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    bwahahaha!!!
    heh heh.

    you should have specified, "must have two ovals on the front marquee".

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    #12913
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    10 GB bandwidth, bandwidth is speed, GB is data allocation. Its like saying speed is 10 km instead of 10 km/h.

    At bakit kailangan wireless ang mouse ng laptop at sa desktop lang pwede wired mouse?

    Most laptop have 720p resolution, especially the cheaper ones, why the minimum needed is 1080p?

    Bluetooth required? For what? At HDMI port? Bakit ikakabit ba sa tv ang mga devices na to? So required din ba lcd TV with HDMI port?

    Pati headset over the head, while a stock cellphone headset will do the job and is cheaper.

    Dual sim kailangan sa smartphone? For what purpose? 2 sim ba gagamitin ng mga bata?

    And other small things like anti-glare led, 2 built in speakers, and the very specific color cyan blue, hindi lang kulay, very specific pa sa color pallette 71,53,0,12.

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    Obviously quoted by the "preferred" DEPED supplier with generous commission.

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    #12914
    build quality and product reliability can be very polarizing.
    some products are clearly superior to others.
    why don't we change our procurement rules?

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    #12915
    Cebu City has 167 new COVID-19 cases, Eastern Visayas has 42 | Inquirer News

    kasalanan ng DOH...ulit

    Cebu City Mayor Edgardo Labella explained that the continued rise in the new cases could be attributed to the delay in the release of results from laboratories of the Department of Health (DOH).

    He said the DOH has been dealing with backlogs, which caused a sudden increase in the number of reported cases in the past days.

    Many of these cases, he said, were swabbed more than two weeks before the results were released.

    “It sounds like we (Cebu City) have many cases but the real situation is there has been a backlog,” Labella said.

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    #12916
    Better just wait for the vaccine... parang the numbers are just going up than anywhere else...



    Last edited by Monseratto; June 13th, 2020 at 06:08 PM.

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    #12917
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Obviously quoted by the "preferred" DEPED supplier with generous commission.

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    anyone volunteering to "reverse-engineer" and determine which particular model this is?
    heh heh.

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    #12918
    Zero Hedge

    Twitter Banned Zero Hedge For Doxing A Chinese Scientist It Falsely Accused Of Creating Coronavirus

    Zero Hedge's Twitter account was suspended Friday, following the publication of the scientist's name.

    "The account was permanently suspended for violating our platform manipulation policy," a spokesperson for Twitter told BuzzFeed News.

    Zero Hedge, which describes itself as a financial blog, has more than 50,000 followers on Facebook and more than 670,000 followers on Twitter and is run by Daniel Ivandjiiski, a Bulgarian-born, US-based, former investment banker, who writes the majority of the posts published by the pseudonym Tyler Durden. The site regularly amplifies conspiracy theories from anonymous message board 4chan and writes frequently about the deep state, doomsday prep, bitcoin speculation, and New Age pseudoscience.
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 13th, 2020 at 08:05 PM.

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    #12919
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Better just wait for the vaccine... parang the numbers are just going up than anywhere else...



    total number - recoveries - fatalities, equals...
    i am afraid to find out, where this some 18,000 covid positives are...

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    #12920
    From 2 cases naging 15...


    2 more areas in QC under special concern lockdown after surge in COVID-19 cases | ABS-CBN News

    In a statement, QC Assistant City Administrator Alberto Kimpo said 138 Ermin Garcia St. and 52 Imperial St., both in Barangay E. Rodriguez, have been placed under special lockdown, with one more area under consideration.

    The city government did not say how long the lockdown will remain in effect. The SCL restricts movement within an area.

    “From two active cases, the number of COVID-19 cases in these two areas went up to 15, this came after Metro Manila eased into general community quarantine (GCQ),” said Kimpo.

China Corona Virus Outbreak