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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    So nag postive ulit si Sonny Angara but doctors think the test just picked up remnants of the virus and hinde naman siya nakakahawa. Sobrwng sensitive lang siguro nun PCR test. Kaya importante din yun mga rapid tests para makita kung meron ka na antibodies.


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    Kaya nga sabi ko we need a better test kit and maybe machine, which can detect only active viruses and not include inactivated "remnants" of the virus.

    Problem kasi is, to be sure and safe, mag-isolate ka na naman. Papano work mo, etc. Kawawa ang ordinaryong tao.

    Kaya vaccine talaga ang kelangan ang not just a deug that is effective as a cure. Mas mahal magkasakit at ma-ospital kesa gumastos para sa anti-virus vaccine.

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    #10462
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Kaya nga sabi ko we need a better test kit and maybe machine, which can detect only active viruses and not include inactivated "remnants" of the virus.

    Problem kasi is, to be sure and safe, mag-isolate ka na naman. Papano work mo, etc. Kawawa ang ordinaryong tao.

    Kaya vaccine talaga ang kelangan ang not just a deug that is effective as a cure. Mas mahal magkasakit at ma-ospital kesa gumastos para sa anti-virus vaccine.

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    and where are we going to get that and an "accurate" test even exist?

    Sa sobrang unknown nitong virus na ito there's no such thing as perfect test, ang ginagawa ngayon ng mga bansa, kung ano meron at ano ang available go with the flow lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    and where are we going to get that and an "accurate" test even exist?

    Sa sobrang unknown nitong virus na ito there's no such thing as perfect test, ang ginagawa ngayon ng mga bansa, kung ano meron at ano ang available go with the flow lang.
    That is indeed the question. Kaya nga the sooner there is a vaccine, then we wouldn't need na new king of test kit and detection machine.

    But if there is no vaccine and this virus keeps on surviving, then "necessity as a mother of all inventions" would kick in for sure. Hindi pwede na maraming false negative parati.

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    #10464
    HK needs 28 straight days of no new local cases to declare the outbreak over...


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    Tested positive using PCR test in Cebu after first tested negative using Rapid test in Manila...

    Garcia said the incident solidified her resolve to scrap the use of “Rapid Tests” for Cebu province and instead use the more accurate PCR test for COVID-19.

    13 OFWs who arrive in Cebu test positive for coronavirus | Inquirer News
    Last edited by Monseratto; May 2nd, 2020 at 06:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Tested positive using PCR test in Cebu after first tested negative using Rapid test in Manila...




    13 OFWs who arrive in Cebu test positive for coronavirus | Inquirer News
    Tagal na sinasabi na wala silbi at dagdag gastos lang ang rapid test. Bakit kasi ginawa pa. Taxpayers money down the drain especially if you consider na VIP's ang talagang gumamit niyan ng husto.

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    #10467
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    That is indeed the question. Kaya nga the sooner there is a vaccine, then we wouldn't need na new king of test kit and detection machine.

    But if there is no vaccine and this virus keeps on surviving, then "necessity as a mother of all inventions" would kick in for sure. Hindi pwede na maraming false negative parati.

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    Ang basehan na lang natin habang walang vaccine is, hanggat wala tayong nakikitang mga patay sa kalsada or a tsunami of patients going to our hospitals, we're still doing ok.

    Come of to think of it, sa libu libung taon na natin sa mundong ito and with out technological advancement in medical field, sobrang dami pa natin hindi alam sa mundong ito.

    And we have these greedy countries racing to find new planets na pwede nilang pag aralan we can't even beat a virus who's existing in our own planet

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    #10468
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Looks like our Philippine Trump has a contender for his title.

    "lead the way!"
    heh heh.

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    #10469
    Sana ganito rin yung Mayor sa QC...

    LABOR DAY. Today, May 1, 2020, our team of health workers from the Cebu City Health Department conducted contact tracing and testing using swab samples in Sitio Lawis, Alaska, Mambaling.

    The rise in the number of COVID-19 positive cases in Barangay Mambaling is the result of contact tracing and massive testing to make sure those who who have exposure to the virus will be traced.

    Mayor Edgar Labella has reiterated and assured the city residents that the City Government will not stop doing all the measures against COVID-19. /PIO


    24 covid-19 patients from Sitio Tinabangay, Brgy Mambaling were transferred by Cebu City QRT & EMS personnel to the Barangay Isolation Center (BIC) in Mambaling Elementary School. The Cebu City Health Department will monitor and treat the patients in the center.

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    #10470
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Tested positive using PCR test in Cebu after first tested negative using Rapid test in Manila...




    13 OFWs who arrive in Cebu test positive for coronavirus | Inquirer News
    there may be three possible situations to a negative rapid ("antibody") test:
    1. you haven't been infected yet, ever. that means, you are "fare game" for infection.
    2. you are currently infected, symptomatic or asymptomatic. you haven't developed the antibodies yet.
    3. the virus had just left you, but you haven't yet developed high-enough levels of detectable antibody that are associated with previous infection and presumed immunity. this is the so-called "window period".
    the prudent thing to do is to re-test (virus, antibody) after a short period of time.

    having the test and doing it, is not enough. one must have somebody who knows how to interpret the results, taking into account the laboratory and clinical findings. the medical technologist may not be properly trained to do this.
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    Delivery of ‘next essentials’ like clothing, hardware items now allowed during ECQ | Inquirer News



    “In other words, before we only food and other disinfectants, now we have included hardware products and pet food, and veterinary products as well as clothing and accessories,” the DTI secretary added.

    “Pati na rin po housewares, pati na rin po appliances dahil kailangang i-repair or palitan ang kanilang mga appliances [kaya] ina-allow po sa delivery mode,” Lopez further said.

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    #10472
    Doing rounds from some chinatards...fock


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    The Brits will conduct a scientific study if physical distancing really does the job, or is a waste of space...

    Coronavirus: Government could drop two-metre distancing rule in lockdown exit plan | The Independent


    A potential exit strategy from the UK’s coronavirus lockdown could see the two-metre social distancing rule relaxed, as ministers have asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) to further probe the need for such a measure.

    Questions over the two-metre rule have been raised by numerous ministers, The Daily Telegraph reported, amid discussions about whether such distancing is an effective tool in fighting the spread of coronavirus, and how and when to safely bring the country out of the lockdown.
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    #10474
    Singapore new cases number dropped by half... only 4 are not from the Foreign Workers Dorm clusters.

    They will begin lifting some restrictions next week...


    Singapore reports 447 new COVID-19 cases - CNA

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    #10475
    staying at home for six weeks,
    i noticed things in the house that need attention.
    foremost among them, was our water pipe. it developed a strong leak just as the lock-up started. it was only this week, that we got a tubero and repair material, to fix the leak. 'buti na lang, may nag-bukas na supplies store. i shudder to see the next water bill... replacing the pipe was easy. breaking thru the strong concrete... whew!!
    then,our ancient refrigerator started acting up. gumagana compressor, but the blower was weak... when available, i'll have the technician take a look. repair or purchase new one... repair or purchase new...
    TV food! my purchasing agent is simply incapable of reading my thoughts...
    and that haircut! hindi puede DIY...
    heh heh.

    OT.
    my apologies.
    Last edited by dr. d; May 2nd, 2020 at 07:29 PM.

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    #10476
    With more than 3 million Covid-19 infections worldwide, Taiwan – which has reported just 429 cases and six deaths since January 21 – is one of the few places in the world to have kept the pandemic at bay. As of Friday, there had been no new cases in Taiwan for six consecutive days and no local transmission for 19 days in a row.
    Taiwan rewards health minister Chen Shih-chung’s coronavirus success story | South China Morning Post

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    #10477
    and this is why, we should see china and taiwan differently, covid-wise.

    obviously, taiwan takes pride in its people's achievements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Tested positive using PCR test in Cebu after first tested negative using Rapid test in Manila...




    13 OFWs who arrive in Cebu test positive for coronavirus | Inquirer News
    recent infection lang wala pa antibodies

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    #10480
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    the 14-day quarantine is a "number they plucked out from the sky", guided by what they already know of the other similar viruses.
    years from now,we'll probably know better, what the range of covid 19's incubation period is.
    as some experts say, "we still know very little of covid 19. we're just starting to write and re-write, and re-write some more, the book".

    the traditional quarantine period is 40 days.
    but i am confident, no economy on the planet, is willing to do that on a large scale, just yet.
    i recall that 14-day number was plucked from Wuhan in January and the whole world adopted it

    since then the guys who have most experience with the virus increased the quarantine period to 28 days but the world is still using the 14-day


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