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    #7921
    hydroxychloroquine gamot yan for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus

    RA and lupus are inflammatory conditions

    HCQ drives down the inflammation

    in covid pneumonia the immune system overreacts attacking the lungs kaya hindi maka hinga ang pasyente

    ang description daw parang ka nalulunod -- basically the patient drowns from the immune response

    HCQ drives down that immune overreaction

    kaya dapat under doctor's supervision

    only the doctor knows when you need it

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    #7922
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    italy is plateauing




    caveat:

    maybe it's the testing that's plateauing
    Italy's Lombardi region only test with sympomatics...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    China should pay reparations for all the country that they have wronged with this gross negligence of not reporting the virus sooner than later.

    They tried cover-up first instead of warning other countries, especially if you consider their history with SARS. That is just very bad faith on their part.

    China should indeed pay! Hope the US and EU will pressure them for it.

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    #7924
    His theory that the hydroxychloroquine is a conduit for the zinc is interesting.


    Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak [UPDATES]
    TechStartups Team POSTED ON MARCH 28, 2020




    March 31 Update: Dr. Vladimir Zelenko provides important update on three drug regimen of Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Azithromycin (Z-Pak) he used to effectively treat 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success

    Last Wednesday, we published the success story from Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a board-certified family practitioner in New York, after he successfully treated 350 coronavirus patients with 100 percent success using a cocktail of drugs: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin (Z-Pak), an antibiotic to treat secondary infections, and zinc sulfate. Dr. Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours after treatment.

    Now, Dr. Zelenko provides updates on the treatment after he successfully treated 699 COVID-19 patients in New York. In an exclusive interview with former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Vladmir Zelenko shares the results of his latest study, which showed that out of his 699 patients treated, zero patients died, zero patients intubated, and four hospitalizations.

    Dr. Zelenko said the whole treatment costs only $20 over a period of 5 days with 100% success. He defines success as “Not to die.” Dr. Zelenko first posted his Facebook video message last week calling on President Trump to “advise the country that they should be taking this medication.”

    There are many other success stories about hydroxychloroquine across the country. Last week, Dr. William Grace, an oncologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, said they’ve not had a single death in their hospital because of hydroxychloroquine. “Thanks to hydroxychloroquine, we have not had a death in our hospital,’ Dr. Grace said.

    Also, in a study conducted by the National Institute of Health (NIH) also confirmed some of Dr. Dr. Zelenko’s findings. The study by NIH showed that Zinc supplementation decreases the morbidity of lower respiratory tract infection in pediatric patients in the developing world. A second study also conducted by NIH titled: “In Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2),” also showed hydroxychloroquine to be more potent in killing the virus off in vitro (in the test tube and not in the body).

    Below is a video of his latest interview explaining the success of the treatment.


    Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 1% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak [UPDATES] | Tech News | Startups News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Italy's Lombardi region only test with sympomatics...

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    kaya hindi talaga reliable ang data

    coz other countries have different criteria

    pag pinagsama sama mo ang data ng iba't iba bansa nandyan ung duda

    for me i think the best indicator that a country's coronavirus situation is improving will be anecdotal

    when hospitals start noticing less people showing up in the ER

    when ICUs start becoming available

    doon mo na masabi the situation is improving

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    #7927
    digong must be missing the days when he had his puppy ,bato, heading the pnp

    PNP says won't follow Duterte's order to shoot troublemakers | ABS-CBN News

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    His theory that the hydroxychloroquine is a conduit for the zinc is interesting.

    di ko pinanood

    pero alam ko yan tungkol sa zinc

    zinc can inhibit coronavirus replication

    thing is if you only take zinc it only floats around in extracellular space

    you need to get the zinc into an infected cell

    what chloroquine does is it opens up a gateway that allows zinc to enter the infected cell

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    #7929
    so in shanghai they are using high dose vitamin C = success

    in new york a jewish doctor using zinc success din.

    tapos dito sa atin, si makati medical center simula pa lang ng lockdown eh combo ng c and zinc.

    kaya mas naging effective yung hydroxychlorox.

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    #7930
    kaya many many pages ago i mentioned solmux advance

    kasi meron siya zinc

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    #7931
    Yung zinc supplement in zinc sulfate?

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    #7932
    This is a very informative video on vitamin c and zinc. On why the two are relatively effective on fighting any threats to our immune system.

    Vitamin C and Zinc - The Solution - YouTube

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    #7933
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    crucial talaga yugn face shield. Yung N95 kasi expose ka pa din.

    Pag tinitignan ko yung face shield na yan ay parang parehas lang yung gamit namin sa grinding. Ang kagandahan lang nito ay madaling i-disinfect.
    Kaso mas di hamak na well- protected ang mga healthcare worker natin pag hazmat suit ang gamit.
    Of course, mas mabuti naman yan kesa sa wala.

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    #7934
    Take Berocca. It's Vitamin B-Complex+ Ascorbic Acid+Calcium+Magnesium+Zinc. Tablets dissolve into a drink. I am now on mixed berries flavor.

    Ito pang tulak ko sa 500mg Vit C


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    #7935
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Take Berocca. It's Vitamin B-Complex+ Ascorbic Acid+Calcium+Magnesium+Zinc. Tablets dissolve into a drink. I am now on mixed berries flavor.

    Ito pang tulak ko sa 500mg Vit C

    Wala na rin mabilhan. Ang sama ng lasa ng mixed berry parsng cough syrup.


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    #7936
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Wala na rin mabilhan. Ang sama ng lasa ng mixed berry parsng cough syrup.


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    Hindi naman. I like it

    I also like the orange and lemon flavor


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    #7937
    Running out of test subjects...

    Chinese military scientists hope to test coronavirus vaccine abroad | South China Morning Post

    “We have contained the virus too fast, and now we don’t have enough confirmed cases for further vaccine testing,” he said.

    “For example, if we test 10,000 people, but the result shows just 100 people being able to develop immunity, that 0.01 per cent is not enough to prove the vaccine could be used among ordinary people.”

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    #7938
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Baka yan ang mission nung mga dumating na chinese medical staff.
    Testingin dito yung vaccine nila.

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    #7939
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    China should pay reparations for all the country that they have wronged with this gross negligence of not reporting the virus sooner than later.
    They tried cover-up first instead of warning other countries, especially if you consider their history with SARS. That is just very bad faith on their part.
    China should indeed pay! Hope the US and EU will pressure them for it.

    One thing they can do is to require ALL companies to transfer sourcing of products and supplies to another region ...

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    #7940
    Finally ! -- Everyone is now required to wear a mask.
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China Corona Virus Outbreak