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    #641
    For all of you who are panicking, no need to wear the N95 mask.

    The virus is not an influenza strain as they try to feed to the world.

    The ‘virus’ is asymptomatic.

    The first case of infection here in the Philippines which is a 38 yrs. old
    Chinese woman is asymptomatic, meaning she was not sick when she
    Got in To NAIA from an HK flight. She is from Wuhan. If she was sick
    Then it should have been detected by NAIA temperature scanners.

    And yet she was allowed to travel to Cebu then Dumaguete until
    Jan 25 when she had a minor cough, and consulted a hospital.


    So given this, what can we deduce from this? If the virus is asymptomatic,
    Then how can we call it a flu virus where it did not even
    exhibit the symptoms of a flu. The outcome was pneumonia
    The cause of the death was pneumonia. But not the symptoms.


    Another case, Japan already repatriated 200 Japanese citizens
    from Wuhan.

    Three Japanese returnees from Wuhan test positive for new coronavirus | The Japan Times

    Before boarding the plane in Wuhan, these Japanese were checked
    For the symptoms. If theyÂ’re sick, then they wouldnÂ’t have been
    Allowed to board the plane, and yet they were allowed. Upon
    Reaching, Japan, three tested for the coronavirus and still with
    No symptoms.

    So the question is what is this virus? Is it really a flu virus?

    Or a virus that jumps from person to person without symptoms,
    Without cough, sneezing, droplets. It jumps even when you
    Feel or look healthy.

    There are other forms of virus that need not be the flu or influenza-like.
    For example, Ebola, the Leprosy virus. It is it a biological weapon?
    Hubei province has a military biological facility for the Chinese govt.

    Why is that?

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    #642
    Quote Originally Posted by Wuhan View Post
    For all of you who are panicking, no need to wear the N95 mask.

    The virus is not an influenza strain as they try to feed to the world.

    The ‘virus’ is asymptomatic.

    The first case of infection here in the Philippines which is a 38 yrs. old
    Chinese woman is asymptomatic, meaning she was not sick when she
    Got in To NAIA from an HK flight. She is from Wuhan. If she was sick
    Then it should have been detected by NAIA temperature scanners.

    And yet she was allowed to travel to Cebu then Dumaguete until
    Jan 25 when she had a minor cough, and consulted a hospital.


    So given this, what can we deduce from this? If the virus is asymptomatic,
    Then how can we call it a flu virus where it did not even
    exhibit the symptoms of a flu. The outcome was pneumonia
    The cause of the death was pneumonia. But not the symptoms.


    Another case, Japan already repatriated 200 Japanese citizens
    from Wuhan.

    Three Japanese returnees from Wuhan test positive for new coronavirus | The Japan Times

    Before boarding the plane in Wuhan, these Japanese were checked
    For the symptoms. If theyÂ’re sick, then they wouldnÂ’t have been
    Allowed to board the plane, and yet they were allowed. Upon
    Reaching, Japan, three tested for the coronavirus and still with
    No symptoms.

    So the question is what is this virus? Is it really a flu virus?

    Or a virus that jumps from person to person without symptoms,
    Without cough, sneezing, droplets. It jumps even when you
    Feel or look healthy.

    There are other forms of virus that need not be the flu or influenza-like.
    For example, Ebola, the Leprosy virus. It is it a biological weapon?
    Hubei province has a military biological facility for the Chinese govt.

    Why is that?
    Welcome back OB!!! [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Welcome back OB!!! [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]

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    How'd you know bro? Hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    How'd you know bro? Hahahaha

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    The conspiracy theory is a dead give away bro

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    #645
    So to answer my question of why Hubei province is the designated biological facility
    Of the Chinese government.

    I did some digging.

    In the 1918 Spanish Flu, the virus was suspected as H1NI, the same as bird flu.
    But there are no proof of this, because the world that time had so much in
    Their hands, post world war 1, people returning from home or respective
    Countries. They brought with them a new strain, totally unknown. They didnÂ’t
    Know what hit them. And they did not even have the medical facilities to even
    Catalogue or save a specimen of the 1918 Spanish flu Virus.

    History only tells us that the virus sarted in 1918 and weakened in 1920, faded
    Without cure, and close to 100M dead .

    And then I came up to this article in National Geographic

    1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 5 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

    In this article, historians traced the Spanish flu from Hebei Province China. In
    1917, China was ravaged by an epidemic but tried to hide it to the world.
    In 1918, a lot of Chinese were shipped to Europe to build iinfrastructures
    As was the case in America in late 1800s, when the Chinese were commissioned
    To build railroads and dams.

    So the Spanish flu is not from Spain, or from a spanish citizen, as we
    Would conclude it to be.

    So 1917, a unknown virus strain from China
    Year 2019, another unknown virus strain from China

    100 years. Is this cyclical?

    So I dug further.

    During the Spanish flu, a concurrent virus was also present: The Swine flu.

    1918 Flu Resulted In Current Lineage Of H1N1 Swine Influenza Viruses -- ScienceDaily

    So look at in your other news section, We are also experiencing the ASF. Right?

    So in 1918, the Spanish Flu ravaged humans, the Swine Flu ravaged hogs and livestocks.

    Now, in 2019-2020, the same scenario is happening.

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    #646
    Quote Originally Posted by Wuhan View Post
    For all of you who are panicking, no need to wear the N95 mask.

    The virus is not an influenza strain as they try to feed to the world.

    The ‘virus’ is asymptomatic.

    The first case of infection here in the Philippines which is a 38 yrs. old
    Chinese woman is asymptomatic, meaning she was not sick when she
    Got in To NAIA from an HK flight. She is from Wuhan. If she was sick
    Then it should have been detected by NAIA temperature scanners.

    And yet she was allowed to travel to Cebu then Dumaguete until
    Jan 25 when she had a minor cough, and consulted a hospital.


    So given this, what can we deduce from this? If the virus is asymptomatic,
    Then how can we call it a flu virus where it did not even
    exhibit the symptoms of a flu. The outcome was pneumonia
    The cause of the death was pneumonia. But not the symptoms.


    Another case, Japan already repatriated 200 Japanese citizens
    from Wuhan.

    Three Japanese returnees from Wuhan test positive for new coronavirus | The Japan Times

    Before boarding the plane in Wuhan, these Japanese were checked
    For the symptoms. If theyÂ’re sick, then they wouldnÂ’t have been
    Allowed to board the plane, and yet they were allowed. Upon
    Reaching, Japan, three tested for the coronavirus and still with
    No symptoms.

    So the question is what is this virus? Is it really a flu virus?

    Or a virus that jumps from person to person without symptoms,
    Without cough, sneezing, droplets. It jumps even when you
    Feel or look healthy.

    There are other forms of virus that need not be the flu or influenza-like.
    For example, Ebola, the Leprosy virus. It is it a biological weapon?
    Hubei province has a military biological facility for the Chinese govt.

    Why is that?
    many viral infections are relatively asymptomatic or only subclinically symptomatic. many of them can pass for "i got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning" syndrome.
    the virus did not read the textbook. it does not always behave according to man's word.
    blood testing is more reliable.

    and oh!
    someone already posted earlier a very very similar post as your spanish flu thing.
    reading them side by side, one might swear they were written by the same person.

    btw,
    the hini pandemic of 1918 was worldwide, but, for reasons of economy, none admitted they had it. only spain admitted it had it.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 30th, 2020 at 11:48 PM.

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    #647
    Quote Originally Posted by Wuhan View Post
    So to answer my question of why Hubei province is the designated biological facility
    Of the Chinese government.

    I did some digging.

    In the 1918 Spanish Flu, the virus was suspected as H1NI, the same as bird flu.
    But there are no proof of this, because the world that time had so much in
    Their hands, post world war 1, people returning from home or respective
    Countries. They brought with them a new strain, totally unknown. They didnÂ’t
    Know what hit them. And they did not even have the medical facilities to even
    Catalogue or save a specimen of the 1918 Spanish flu Virus.

    History only tells us that the virus sarted in 1918 and weakened in 1920, faded
    Without cure, and close to 100M dead .

    And then I came up to this article in National Geographic

    1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 5 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

    In this article, historians traced the Spanish flu from Hebei Province China. In
    1917, China was ravaged by an epidemic but tried to hide it to the world.
    In 1918, a lot of Chinese were shipped to Europe to build iinfrastructures
    As was the case in America in late 1800s, when the Chinese were commissioned
    To build railroads and dams.

    So the Spanish flu is not from Spain, or from a spanish citizen, as we
    Would conclude it to be.

    So 1917, a unknown virus strain from China
    Year 2019, another unknown virus strain from China

    100 years. Is this cyclical?

    So I dug further.

    During the Spanish flu, a concurrent virus was also present: The Swine flu.

    1918 Flu Resulted In Current Lineage Of H1N1 Swine Influenza Viruses -- ScienceDaily

    So look at in your other news section, We are also experiencing the ASF. Right?

    So in 1918, the Spanish Flu ravaged humans, the Swine Flu ravaged hogs and livestocks.

    Now, in 2019-2020, the same scenario is happening.
    Hi OB! I missed you bro.

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    #648
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Welcome back OB!!! [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]

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    That did not take long.

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    #649
    Quote Originally Posted by Wuhan View Post
    For all of you who are panicking, no need to wear the N95 mask.

    The virus is not an influenza strain as they try to feed to the world.

    The ‘virus’ is asymptomatic.

    The first case of infection here in the Philippines which is a 38 yrs. old
    Chinese woman is asymptomatic, meaning she was not sick when she
    Got in To NAIA from an HK flight. She is from Wuhan. If she was sick
    Then it should have been detected by NAIA temperature scanners.

    And yet she was allowed to travel to Cebu then Dumaguete until
    Jan 25 when she had a minor cough, and consulted a hospital.


    So given this, what can we deduce from this? If the virus is asymptomatic,
    Then how can we call it a flu virus where it did not even
    exhibit the symptoms of a flu. The outcome was pneumonia
    The cause of the death was pneumonia. But not the symptoms.


    Another case, Japan already repatriated 200 Japanese citizens
    from Wuhan.

    Three Japanese returnees from Wuhan test positive for new coronavirus | The Japan Times

    Before boarding the plane in Wuhan, these Japanese were checked
    For the symptoms. If theyÂ’re sick, then they wouldnÂ’t have been
    Allowed to board the plane, and yet they were allowed. Upon
    Reaching, Japan, three tested for the coronavirus and still with
    No symptoms.

    So the question is what is this virus? Is it really a flu virus?

    Or a virus that jumps from person to person without symptoms,
    Without cough, sneezing, droplets. It jumps even when you
    Feel or look healthy.

    There are other forms of virus that need not be the flu or influenza-like.
    For example, Ebola, the Leprosy virus. It is it a biological weapon?
    Hubei province has a military biological facility for the Chinese govt.

    Why is that?

    ung 38 yr old na babae bata pa kaya malakas ang resistensya so di gaano malala epekto sa kanya ng virus

    pero carrier siya at nakakahawa siya

    ung mga namatay sa infection mostly matanda o may sakit kaya mahina katawan

    --

    itong wuhan virus coronavirus nga daw yan

    same family as the virus that causes the common cold

    iba ang ebola

    ebola virus belongs to the filovirus family that also includes marburg

    those viruses cause hemmorhagic fever

    mas lalo iba ang leprosy -- it's caused by a bacteria

    wtf OB baket nag abala ka pa mag post madali lang naman madetect mali ang pinopost mo
    Last edited by uls; January 30th, 2020 at 11:55 PM.

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    #650
    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    I'll start to panic if Dr d and SoleusBB start to panic here in tsikot hahaha

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    start panicking, when we stop posting here.
    heh heh.

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    #651
    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    India just reported their first case as well, within a half hour of Sec. Duque's presscon.
    yeigh!
    we have arrived!

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    #652
    Now that we have our first case of infection here, I wonder how prepared the government is to tackle the bull by the horns when it explodes dramatically. How prepared are the hospitals, especially the public hospitals? How prepared are the medical frontliners? I see pictures of those doctors and nurses(?) in Wuhan in biohazard suits. Do we have those here too? Do we need those biohazard suits to make sure they don't get infected as well? Remember when Dengue was at its peak it's hard to get a hospital room? Questions, questions.

    Right now, it's best not to get infected. Good luck to all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuhan View Post
    So to answer my question of why Hubei province is the designated biological facility
    Of the Chinese government.

    I did some digging.

    In the 1918 Spanish Flu, the virus was suspected as H1NI, the same as bird flu.
    But there are no proof of this, because the world that time had so much in
    Their hands, post world war 1, people returning from home or respective
    Countries. They brought with them a new strain, totally unknown. They didnÂ’t
    Know what hit them. And they did not even have the medical facilities to even
    Catalogue or save a specimen of the 1918 Spanish flu Virus.

    History only tells us that the virus sarted in 1918 and weakened in 1920, faded
    Without cure, and close to 100M dead .

    And then I came up to this article in National Geographic

    1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 5 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

    In this article, historians traced the Spanish flu from Hebei Province China. In
    1917, China was ravaged by an epidemic but tried to hide it to the world.
    In 1918, a lot of Chinese were shipped to Europe to build iinfrastructures
    As was the case in America in late 1800s, when the Chinese were commissioned
    To build railroads and dams.

    So the Spanish flu is not from Spain, or from a spanish citizen, as we
    Would conclude it to be.

    So 1917, a unknown virus strain from China
    Year 2019, another unknown virus strain from China

    100 years. Is this cyclical?

    So I dug further.

    During the Spanish flu, a concurrent virus was also present: The Swine flu.

    1918 Flu Resulted In Current Lineage Of H1N1 Swine Influenza Viruses -- ScienceDaily

    So look at in your other news section, We are also experiencing the ASF. Right?

    So in 1918, the Spanish Flu ravaged humans, the Swine Flu ravaged hogs and livestocks.

    Now, in 2019-2020, the same scenario is happening.
    so ano point mo?

    bago ka na-ban you were saying di magkakaroon ng n-CoV dito kasi di tayo nagka-SARS dahil humid ang Pinas

    ngayon you're saying repeat ito ng Spanish flu which is a global pandemic

    nagbago isip mo ngayon meron na n-CoV sa pinas

    from one extreme (dismissing it like it was nothing) you're now going to the other extreme saying this virus will kill millions like the pandemic 100 years ago

    wala ka ba mas consistent na view kung ano talaga ito?

    kaya hirap mo paniwalaan eh
    Last edited by uls; January 31st, 2020 at 12:07 AM.

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    #654
    I dont know if he really said this pero based on their logic and reasoning, it is very plausible that he did.

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    #655
    style kags.
    saying many things, sometimes contrary.
    then claiming credit when something "predicted" happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    I dont know if he really said this pero based on their logic and reasoning, it is very plausible that he did.

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    "good gosh!"

    i am confident, an explanation explaining it, will come out soon.

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    #657
    We are now in unknown territory.

    The first mutation in Wuhan was beaten From Dec 31 to January 18 that’s why there was
    No need to lockdown or even to blow the news wide open.

    Then came Jan 18, a second mutation happened, and hospitals are flocking with sick people.
    China decided to lock down Wuhan.

    Now, in Japan, doctors are telling US that the 3 infected Japanese who came back from Wuhan
    ASYMPTOMATIC , are exhibiting another mutated form of the virus.

    IF this is mutating or adapting to its environment and able to slip detection, then we are
    IN for very challenging weeks ahead.

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    #658
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    many viral infections are relatively asymptomatic or only subclinically symptomatic. many of them can pass for "i got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning" syndrome.
    the virus did not read the textbook. it does not always behave according to man's word.
    blood testing is more reliable.

    Yes, but is this a flu virus as they claim to be?

    The other Chinese who died in Lazaro Hospital, died of Pneumonia.

    The virus is HIV.

    Pneumonia is the outcome of the HIV infection.

    San Lazaro Hospital patient dies of pneumonia, was under observation for coronavirus

    So what is this virus? Are we looking in the right direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuhan View Post
    We are now in unknown territory.

    The first mutation in Wuhan was beaten From Dec 31 to January 18 that’s why there was
    No need to lockdown or even to blow the news wide open.

    Then came Jan 18, a second mutation happened, and hospitals are flocking with sick people.
    China decided to lock down Wuhan.

    Now, in Japan, doctors are telling US that the 3 infected Japanese who came back from Wuhan
    ASYMPTOMATIC , are exhibiting another mutated form of the virus.

    IF this is mutating or adapting to its environment and able to slip detection, then we are
    IN for very challenging weeks ahead.
    sinabi nga pag bagong infected ka lang wala ka pa symptoms

    2 weeks kasi incubation

    Ung mga japanese bagong infected lang tapos nilabas ng China

    Nag blood test positive sa Japan

    Kahit wala pa symptoms nasa loob na ng katawan ung virus kaya nadetect ng blood test

    Later on magkaka symptons yan

    No need for your conspiracy theory explanation

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    #660
    Wala naman duda kakalat pa yan

    Madali lang kasi kumalat parang sipon / trangkaso

    Sa sobra interconnected ng mundo via air travel

    Yun nga 1918 virus kumalat sa buong mundo ito pang 2019 cov mas mabilis pa dahil mas common ang air travel ngayon compared to 1918

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