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    #6561
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I never take flu shots. I do have friends na lalagnatin after tapos ang sakit pa sa arms.
    Siguro depende sa tao. Lagi kaming my flu shot ng family ko for the past years at wala naman nilagnat sa amin. Yes masakit sa arm pero bearable naman at couple of days only.

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    #6562
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Are congressman on par with frontliners?
    Mga walang hiya!!!

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    #6563
    One week pa lang.. Pero sa mga high school friends ko meron na possibility magbawas ng working hours.. Yung isa Engineer sa real estate development company.. Yung isa naman BPO Accountant sa Australian company..
    Tingin ko ramdam na nila na hindi lang 1 month lockdown..

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    #6564
    VIP - Very Incompetent Politicians

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    #6565
    My employer said they submitted the COVID-19 Adjustment Measure Program (CAMP) to DOLE. Hopefully, ma-approve, 5k each daw per worker din yun.



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    #6566
    yung nagstart mag enhanced quaranteen bale last last saturday ata, so yung araw na yan to present eh malalaman kung effective at magdiminish yung newly infected.

    kasi yung binablita kanina rise eh last last week pa yan weekdays hindi pa start ng enhanced.

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    #6567
    REPOSTING FROM SocMed
    ---

    From the Chairman of The Medical City, Mr. Eckie Gonzales.
    Directly addressed to our government leaders (Via Dr. Louie Racelis).

    "My opinion -

    The Covid19 tidal wave is almost upon us. And we did not prepare enough to evacuate our population to higher medical ground.

    This stealth virus was a real sleeper. Asymptomatic transmission. Airborne. Accelerating difficulty of breathing later in the second week of the sickness for the 20% of the cases that will ultimately require hospital admission. And yet there were zero new cases for over a month between the 3 Wuhan tourists and the Greenhills super-spreader.

    NEW CASES
    Jan
    30 - 3
    March
    6- 2
    7 - 1
    8 - 4
    9 - 14
    10 - 9
    11 - 16
    12 - 3
    13 - 12
    14 - 47
    15 - 29
    16 - 2
    17 - 45
    18 - 15
    19 - 15
    20 - 13
    21 - 77
    22 - 73

    Why zero? Did we underestimate the transmission impact from international inbound travel, especially from our OFWs especially from the US and Europe? Did we undercommunicate the symptoms that should have brought people to our clinics and hospitals for testing? And finally, did we underprovide for the test kits necessary to identify the infectious people early enough, and trace their contacts to minimize the virus spread?

    This is why for example, in the latest daily patient census of The Medical City, the number of PUI s (patients under investigation) to covid19s is 71:19, or 3.7 PUI s for every one covid19. Likely most of these PUIs are covid19s. The test results backlog at the one institution that is doing it now, the Research Institute of Tropical Medicine (RITM) is one week or more. So people could be walking around not knowing they have the virus. People actually die before knowing their results. And because the number of kits available is small, the mildly symptomatic (who are probably the most infectious), are asked to stay at home and self-quarantine.

    This shows that we are clearly underreporting our cases. Therefore, expect the numbers to shoot through the roof with the 100,000 test kits from China that just arrived, with the DOH enlisting 10 other hospitals to do tests.

    Why didn’t we prepare for mass testing much earlier?

    Whatever it is, we are now beyond case containment, and now into slowing disease transmission and averting excess morbidity and mortality.

    A lockdown helps. It stops people from moving around and infecting each other randomly. Effective community surveillance at the LGU level will detect and monitor the unwell.

    But once you get beyond the tests, and having identified the sick, how do you minimize getting the frontline Health Care Workers (HCWs) also sick? Just yesterday UST hospital announced a pause in its services as 530 HCW s had to go on quarantining. There are clearly not enough N95 masks, face shields, goggles, impermeable gowns, etc.. to provide a safety net for the HCWs. The private hospitals have also picked up most of the covid19 slack, because DOH had failed to mobilize the government hospitals sooner. Too little, nearly late.

    Finally... two days ago, the DOH consented to dedicating certain government hospitals as covid19. But are they ready?

    Do we have enough mechanical ventilators for the 20% of cases that may need assistance in breathing, even intubation? The largest and most well-equipped government hospital has only 22, about the same number as the largest private hospital. Let the government hospitals pick up best practices from the private ones that have led the way on covid19. Don’t hoist this nationalization petard on them. We know that gets us nowhere in terms of results.

    Our economy is in crisis, and with limited resources the government needs to redeploy funding from physical to social infrastructure to support a creaking national health ecosystem before it gets overwhelmed by the expected huge jump in covid19 cases. The best way is for the government to pay for services efficiently rendered, not to manage the private sector.

    So whether it s for a hotel for covid19 mildly symptomatic patients, or buses to transport HCWs, or reimbursements to hospitals for intubations, let this be done efficiently, transparently, and quickly, without boorish reference to nationalization. That is a historical bygone to be left buried 10 feet under.

    Most importantly, during this 1-2 month (hopefully) hiatus, let us feed our poor by leveraging the established CCT infrastructure, and make sure that food can get to marketplaces where it can be effectively bought under new norms of social distance (now 6 feet instead of 3).

    Italy also ignored the virus for over a month. It now has 53,578 cases and 4825 deaths, a mortality rate of 9%. We have 380 cases today and 25 deaths, a mortality rate of 6.6%. Will we see 100,000 cases soon? Our median population age, at half Italy s, is 23.5 years. On the other hand, our total population, at 110 million, is almost double theirs.

    Is Korea a better model? They did massive testing quickly and early on. Their daily case rate peaked at 800 by end February, but has since come down to the mid-70s, our current level.

    Can we flatten the curve till we find a vaccine, or a promising cure like hydroxychloroquine, before the curve flattens us?

    Time is not on our side."

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    #6568
    QP sa amin brgy officials naghatid. Only 1 person per household at non-transferable, thoughay balita ma yung ibang brgy payag na sa likod ng QP maglagay ng isa pang name ng tao pero definitely hindi pwede sabay na lalabas. Got mine last Friday coz I went sa brgy hall to talk to Kap about some matters. Saturday yung sa bahay nahatid.

    Citywide urfew is 6pm to 5am. Pwede lang mamalengke at grocery from 6am to 12noon. Though mall woth supermarket inside eh makabili ka pa even after 12noon. After 12 noon yung bili ng meds and other emergencies na lang pwede.

    Workers that are exempted from lockdown no need QP. Pero yung mga sekyu and others na hindi sa medical or security profession eh kapag lalampas ng 6pm work eh need ng Special Pass from the City Admin.

    My experience tells me na ang gulo pa din ng implementation nila at mabagal. Ang hina ng communication ng city hall with the brgy captains. Mukhang inaatupag kasi yung calamity fund eh. Yun focus nila pero till now wala pa food packs at yung P1,500 per household na vaah support din. Tsk


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    #6569
    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    REPOSTING FROM SocMed
    ---

    From the Chairman of The Medical City, Mr. Eckie Gonzales.
    Directly addressed to our government leaders (Via Dr. Louie Racelis).

    "My opinion -

    The Covid19 tidal wave is almost upon us. And we did not prepare enough to evacuate our population to higher medical ground.

    This stealth virus was a real sleeper. Asymptomatic transmission. Airborne. Accelerating difficulty of breathing later in the second week of the sickness for the 20% of the cases that will ultimately require hospital admission. And yet there were zero new cases for over a month between the 3 Wuhan tourists and the Greenhills super-spreader.

    NEW CASES
    Jan
    30 - 3
    March
    6- 2
    7 - 1
    8 - 4
    9 - 14
    10 - 9
    11 - 16
    12 - 3
    13 - 12
    14 - 47
    15 - 29
    16 - 2
    17 - 45
    18 - 15
    19 - 15
    20 - 13
    21 - 77
    22 - 73

    Why zero? Did we underestimate the transmission impact from international inbound travel, especially from our OFWs especially from the US and Europe? Did we undercommunicate the symptoms that should have brought people to our clinics and hospitals for testing? And finally, did we underprovide for the test kits necessary to identify the infectious people early enough, and trace their contacts to minimize the virus spread?

    This is why for example, in the latest daily patient census of The Medical City, the number of PUI s (patients under investigation) to covid19s is 71:19, or 3.7 PUI s for every one covid19. Likely most of these PUIs are covid19s. The test results backlog at the one institution that is doing it now, the Research Institute of Tropical Medicine (RITM) is one week or more. So people could be walking around not knowing they have the virus. People actually die before knowing their results. And because the number of kits available is small, the mildly symptomatic (who are probably the most infectious), are asked to stay at home and self-quarantine.

    This shows that we are clearly underreporting our cases. Therefore, expect the numbers to shoot through the roof with the 100,000 test kits from China that just arrived, with the DOH enlisting 10 other hospitals to do tests.

    Why didn’t we prepare for mass testing much earlier?

    Whatever it is, we are now beyond case containment, and now into slowing disease transmission and averting excess morbidity and mortality.

    A lockdown helps. It stops people from moving around and infecting each other randomly. Effective community surveillance at the LGU level will detect and monitor the unwell.

    But once you get beyond the tests, and having identified the sick, how do you minimize getting the frontline Health Care Workers (HCWs) also sick? Just yesterday UST hospital announced a pause in its services as 530 HCW s had to go on quarantining. There are clearly not enough N95 masks, face shields, goggles, impermeable gowns, etc.. to provide a safety net for the HCWs. The private hospitals have also picked up most of the covid19 slack, because DOH had failed to mobilize the government hospitals sooner. Too little, nearly late.

    Finally... two days ago, the DOH consented to dedicating certain government hospitals as covid19. But are they ready?

    Do we have enough mechanical ventilators for the 20% of cases that may need assistance in breathing, even intubation? The largest and most well-equipped government hospital has only 22, about the same number as the largest private hospital. Let the government hospitals pick up best practices from the private ones that have led the way on covid19. Don’t hoist this nationalization petard on them. We know that gets us nowhere in terms of results.

    Our economy is in crisis, and with limited resources the government needs to redeploy funding from physical to social infrastructure to support a creaking national health ecosystem before it gets overwhelmed by the expected huge jump in covid19 cases. The best way is for the government to pay for services efficiently rendered, not to manage the private sector.

    So whether it s for a hotel for covid19 mildly symptomatic patients, or buses to transport HCWs, or reimbursements to hospitals for intubations, let this be done efficiently, transparently, and quickly, without boorish reference to nationalization. That is a historical bygone to be left buried 10 feet under.

    Most importantly, during this 1-2 month (hopefully) hiatus, let us feed our poor by leveraging the established CCT infrastructure, and make sure that food can get to marketplaces where it can be effectively bought under new norms of social distance (now 6 feet instead of 3).

    Italy also ignored the virus for over a month. It now has 53,578 cases and 4825 deaths, a mortality rate of 9%. We have 380 cases today and 25 deaths, a mortality rate of 6.6%. Will we see 100,000 cases soon? Our median population age, at half Italy s, is 23.5 years. On the other hand, our total population, at 110 million, is almost double theirs.

    Is Korea a better model? They did massive testing quickly and early on. Their daily case rate peaked at 800 by end February, but has since come down to the mid-70s, our current level.

    Can we flatten the curve till we find a vaccine, or a promising cure like hydroxychloroquine, before the curve flattens us?

    Time is not on our side."

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    Well said. Kudos for making such a telling exposë on what really happened and why we are so ****ed.

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    #6570
    Latest update for new confirmed cases in Cavite.




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    #6573
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Human Centipede!

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    #6574
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    My employer said they submitted the COVID-19 Adjustment Measure Program (CAMP) to DOLE. Hopefully, ma-approve, 5k each daw per worker din yun.



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    #6575
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    In puregold they are now closing as early as 5pm and people have to lineup outside to avoid crowding inside. Seniors are not allowed to enter. There are still tissue paper in their inventory stock but no more Zonrox ar least here in our area.
    buti binawal na senior sa puregold. Sa savemore nung weekend may matatalinong nilalang na dahil sa ayaw pumila, nagsasama nalang ng senior para papasukin agad. yung senior na sinama may mask pero umuubo

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    #6576
    Quote Originally Posted by miggypet View Post
    buti binawal na senior sa puregold. Sa savemore nung weekend may matatalinong nilalang na dahil sa ayaw pumila, nagsasama nalang ng senior para papasukin agad. yung senior na sinama may mask pero umuubo
    I have a friend who's working in a bank. There's this senior who wears a mask and the moment she cough she remove the mask. Lol. What's the used if you remove the mask while coughing.

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    #6577
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    I have a friend who's working in a bank. There's this senior who wears a mask and the moment she cough she remove the mask. Lol. What's the used if you remove the mask while coughing.
    Sayang daw yung mask.🥴

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    #6578
    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Diesel View Post
    VIP - Very Incompetent Politicians
    Very inconsiderate politicians.


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    #6579
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    mas mahipit na today sa area ko

    dami kalye naka block

    showed my quarantine pass at 2 check points

    madami sasakyan sa del monte and roosevelt today as in far more than last week

    bought food at jollibee siena drive thru

    dunno what's up... people seem to be in a rush

    madami naka park sa savemore

    i sense panic in the air

    baka natatakot mga tao kasi lalo nagiging mahigpit ang gobyerno
    Panic in the air most probably dahil may nagpakalat sa fb na if Duterte gets his emergency powers even wet markets will be prohibited from operating. Food will be rationed every 3 days. And there's an advice to stock up 2 weeks worth of supplies. It's fake news of course but then people will believe anything these days.

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    #6580
    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWest View Post
    Panic in the air most probably dahil may nagpakalat sa fb na if Duterte gets his emergency powers even wet markets will be prohibited from operating. Food will be rationed every 3 days. And there's an advice to stock up 2 weeks worth of supplies. It's fake news of course but then people will believe anything these days.

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