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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    info and predictions where this is going

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    PH is italy in the making

    we're not SK

    we're not Taiwan or Macao or Singapore

    we're Italy
    I don't think so. We will be worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Nagpunta lang kami sa area para magbigay ng goods, pero yun kasi squatter's area talaga na tagpi tagpi bahay. Yung sa photo, semento naman kaya hindi ko iniisip na mainit or masikip

    BTT: I thought 14 days lang yung corona to show symptoms, bakit may nagsasabi na 21 days? Lumabas kasi kasi ng second Mom ko ng March 7, so I am thinking dapat March 21 safe na siya.
    Tingin ko yung 21 days eh yung mga bata pa at malakas immune system pero dahil paulit-ulit na na-eexpose later na lumabas symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    si Trump nga dina-downplay niya

    it's just the flu din for him
    I think he's taking it seriously na. Early on he had bad info because the US CDC was apparently using a test kit that couldn't distinguish COVID-19 from regular water.

    Early coronavirus CDC tests didn'''t distinguish between virus and water - Business Insider

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Tingin ko ganun na nga. Pinapatagal lang naman itong pandemic sa lockdown eh. Rip the bandage off and let nature take its course.

    I quarantine mga matatanda saka meron mga sakit pag wala sakit gawin mo kung ano gusot mo magkakaroon din ng antibodies yan.


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    grabe ka, wala ka ba parents, grandparents, Uncle and Auntie. Porque matanda i quarantine na. Tatanda ka rin, they may be old but they are still valuable members of the society...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Tingin ko yung 21 days eh yung mga bata pa at malakas immune system pero dahil paulit-ulit na na-eexpose later na lumabas symptoms.

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    oh safe na pala second mom ko
    Last edited by _Cathy_; March 20th, 2020 at 10:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    grabe ka, wala ka ba parents, grandparents, Uncle and Auntie. Porque matanda i quarantine na. Tatanda ka rin, they may be old but they are still valuable members of the society...



    oh safe na pala second mom ko
    Kung gagawin yun herd immunity ganun ang gagawin, protect the old and vulnerables kaya sila ang I quarantine. It’s for their protection


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post

    BTT: I thought 14 days lang yung corona to show symptoms, bakit may nagsasabi na 21 days? Lumabas kasi kasi ng second Mom ko ng March 7, so I am thinking dapat March 21 safe na siya.
    it's a new virus. we have to study it in longer detail.

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    ^
    Sila din kasi pinaka vulnerable sa virus Cathy. Best minimize their exposure.

    That UK herd immunity strategy has been abandoned. Good thing they woke up coz a lot of people would die before the spread stops.

    Does anyone know if Lazada still does food item deliveries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchman View Post
    i'm living under a rock. kailan pa? but how about ebola, marburg, spanish flu,,,, et al
    WHO best practices recommendations in nomenclature of new human infectious diseases. 2015.
    i guess, the older, already-famous-name diseases, get to keep their names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Kung gagawin yun herd immunity ganun ang gagawin, protect the old and vulnerables kaya sila ang I quarantine. It’s for their protection


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    Problema kasi if you are "young" and live with older people, you can still carry the virus. Iilan lang naman ang household na walang nakatira over 60.

    Okay sana pero sabi nila 50% of the population will catch it? Elders still need people to do their grocery etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post


    saw that video

    una sa lahat, that's glenn beck far right conservative glenn beck

    in fairness chloroquine does show effectiveness against coronavirus

    pero if you listen the the whole message... what glenn beck wants is for the FDA to approve the chloroquine + azithro treatment para mawala ang takot ng tao

    if approved, the fear will go away coz people will think "may gamot naman eh"

    pag wala na ung fear, the stock market will rally

    which is what Trump wants

    yan ang underlying reason why the far right commentators and Trump want chloroquine approved

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    Read this in reddit about herd immunity.

    Social distancing flattens the curve of contagion, but in the end, with something as contagious as COVID-19, it will still spread throughout the population until it reaches a point where herd immunity kicks in. When it does, say, 40%-70% of the population will have been infected. That, by the way, is a figure that's being discussed as realistic and inevitable by a lot of medical authorities around the world.

    So, what the UK is saying, if I understand correctly, is that it's important to isolate (they used the silly term "cocoon") vulnerable people until such time as herd immunity is achieved. It makes sense: you want your more vulnerable citizens to become infected later, because by then 1) the system won't be as overloaded, and 2) we'll know better how to treat severe cases. It's even better if those vulnerable citizens are kept isolated from any risk of contagion until herd immunity is achieved. That's ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    Read this in reddit about herd immunity.
    What's the time frame before herd immunity is achieved?

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    Pag sobrang effective yung quarantine wala din herd immunity, because no one is getting infected.

    The idea is people have to catch it and recover, after which they can't become a carrier anymore. The metric here is the number of people recovered -- sila yung portion of our herd that's immune na to the virus.

    With super strict lockdown measures in place we're not developing herd immunity until magkaroon ng proper vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    What's the time frame before herd immunity is achieved?

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    didn't read the full thread, sobrang mahaba

    here's the link

    On the UK government'''s "herd immunity" plan for dealing with the coronavirus. : bestof

    if you want to read it and learn more about herd immunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    grabe ka, wala ka ba parents, grandparents, Uncle and Auntie. Porque matanda i quarantine na. Tatanda ka rin, they may be old but they are still valuable members of the society...
    From where I stand, their value lies only in their wealth of experience and what they have contributed to humanity when they were still young.

    Some views old age as a disease. And when you have an irreversible disease, you’re hardly valuable anymore.

    The lesson is, right now, when we’re still valuable, be the best that you can ever be in whatever that you do.

    When your time comes, the next generation will look your way with gratitude in their eyes for you have changed the world for the better than when you found it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Pag sobrang effective yung quarantine wala din herd immunity, because no one is getting infected.

    The idea is people have to catch it and recover, after which they can't become a carrier anymore. The metric here is the number of people recovered -- sila yung portion of our herd that's immune na to the virus.

    With super strict lockdown measures in place we're not developing herd immunity until magkaroon ng proper vaccine.
    I think the world is crossing that border already that we can't control it anymore (unless naniniwawala ka sa balita na galing sa China). We see surge again in Hong Kong and new cases in Macau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    saw that video

    una sa lahat, that's glenn beck far right conservative glenn beck

    in fairness chloroquine does show effectiveness against coronavirus

    pero if you listen the the whole message... what glenn beck wants is for the FDA to approve the chloroquine + azithro treatment para mawala ang takot ng tao

    if approved, the fear will go away coz people will think "may gamot naman eh"

    pag wala na ung fear, the stock market will rally

    which is what Trump wants

    yan ang underlying reason why the far right commentators and Trump want chloroquine approved
    Thanks for the comment. I searched more on this and found that the Rigano dude himself seems rather sketchy too.

    a spokesperson for Stanford Medical School emails: “Stanford Medicine, including SPARK, wasn’t involved in the creation of the Google document, and we’ve requested that the author remove all references to us. In addition, Gregory Rigano is not an advisor with Stanford School of Medicine and no one at Stanford was involved in the study.“
    But the use of old antivirals might be sound. Sana something good comes out of it.

    Chloroquine May Fight Covid-19—and Silicon Valley’s Into It | WIRED

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc21420 View Post
    From where I stand, their value lies only in their wealth of experience and what they have contributed to humanity when they were still young.

    Some views old age as a disease. And when you have an irreversible disease, you’re hardly valuable anymore.

    The lesson is, right now, when we’re still valuable, be the best that you can ever be in whatever that you do.

    When your time comes, the next generation will look your way with gratitude in their eyes for you have changed the world for the better than when you found it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    The vantage point from where you stand is haze-free, coach![emoji106]
    Me? When I'd be more a care receiver than a giver?...It's time to be removed.[emoji4]

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    Well, then, I suggest you consult with Dr. Jack Kevorkian for your prescription.


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