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    #38761
    these days it's probably better to inhale as many viruses as possible. para updated lagi yung immune system mo. mask might be preventing you from getting "updates"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Kung wala ng datos, pag uusapan natin ang sinong may kasalanan nitong veerus at sino ang mananagot sa buong mundo nito, harharhar

    Demonyo pa rin ang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS
    Sinong bansa ba pinakamaingay pag alam nila sino ang may kasalanan?

    Pero bakit nananahimik sila? Alam naman ng lahat na kahit walang proof, yang bansa na yan hindi titigil magingay, especially using their mass media. Pero bakit ang tahimik
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    #38763
    sino ang nagpondo ng research sa wuhan


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    #38764
    DoH case bulletin posted on 25 July 2023 for the period from 17-23 July 2023 ...

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    the lowdown compared to the previous report for the period from 10-16 July ...

    - new cases are down by 267
    - daily average cases down by 38

    Demonyo pa rin ang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS
    Last edited by 111prez; July 25th, 2023 at 07:52 PM.

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    #38765
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Kung wala ng datos, pag uusapan natin ang sinong may kasalanan nitong veerus at sino ang mananagot sa buong mundo nito, harharhar

    Demonyo pa rin ang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS
    The whole world hates China (except for their allies hehehe)

    Seriously, kahit mga masa, nung peak ng covid, galit na galit sa China.

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    #38766
    Nationwide PR down to 4.7% ...

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    Demonyo pa rin ang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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    #38767
    Haha...so mons kasi nilagyan ng China ang title.

    O sya wala ng covid. Peace na tayo!

    Sent from my SM-S908E using Tsikot Forums mobile app

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    #38768
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    What if mali yung data? Ask any statistician kung tama ba pag acquire ng data ni Octa.
    What if? Again that's the governments job, then the government is the one that's in the wrong. Sila naman data gatherer eh, bakit mo sisishin yung nag-interpret ng binigay sa kanila. You're barking at the wrong tree then.

    Now dahil hindi ka na din naman takot sa covid-19, again why be bothered by 111prez's post eh hindi naman yan aabot sa kinauukulan. Sabi nga ni uls diba, hindi representative ng taumbayang Pinoy ang tsikot. So why bother. Hindi na aabot sa lockdon kahit minu-minuto pa magpost pa si 111prez ng PR rate updates.
    Last edited by Ry_Tower; July 26th, 2023 at 11:55 AM.

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    #38769
    sino nagsabi ung pagpopost dito ng forumers can influence gov't policy

    as if

    it's media that can influence gov't policy

    when media causes fear among the public, the public demands to gov't to act

    para hindi mabatikos the gov't is forced to act

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    #38770
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    What if? Again that's the governments job, then the government is the one that's in the wrong. Sila naman data gatherer eh, bakit mo sisishin yung nag-interpret ng binigay sa kanila. You're barking at the wrong tree then.

    Now dahil hindi ka na din naman takot sa covid-19, again why be bothered by 111prez's post eh hindi naman yan aabot sa kinauukulan. Sabi nga ni uls diba, hindi representative ng taumbayang Pinoy ang tsikot. So why bother. Hindi na aabot sa lockdon kahit minu-minuto pa magpost pa si 111prez ng PR rate updates.
    So dapat natin sundin ang govt kahit alam natin mali? Kagaya ng sinabi ni uls if there's a few people who are symptomatic and got tested, it will turn out to be 100% PR rate. I-lockdown mo ba sarili mo dahil lahat ng tao according to the government meron covid?
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    #38771
    somebody still doesn't get hindi reliable ang positivity rate when only symptomatic people get tested

    it's reliable when you mass test thousands of people with or without symptoms

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    somebody still doesn't get hindi reliable ang positivity rate when only symptomatic people get tested

    it's reliable when you mass test thousands of people with or without symptoms
    Testing people randomly...

    Same thing like doing a survey.

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    #38773
    Top COVID variant in the PH right now



    Covid-19 biosurveillance in the Philippines as of July 14 to 25 2023. XBB types comprised 91% of the samples sequenced. The most prevalent in the country was XBB 2.3 (Acrux) with 28% followed by XBB 1.16 (Arcturus) with 26%.
    XBB.2.3 (ACRUX), THE FIRST POST-PANDEMIC SARS-CoV-2 VARIANT.

    XBB.2.3 probably originated in India, but is expanding, being detected as early as Europe in mid-January 2023 and to date in more than 47 countries, including the United States and Thailand. Experts predict that and while XBB2.3 and its descendants can displace XBB.1.16 in about 6 to 8 weeks. XBB.1.16 for now is the "center of attention", becoming the predominant variant in many countries around the world.

    XBB.2.3 has a higher transmission rate than the XBB.1.16 strain, allowing it to spread more rapidly between humans and spread between populations. This increased transmissibility is due to a greater binding capacity with ACE2 due to its mutations in the S-protein

    XBB.2.3 exhibits a greater evasive capacity of immune-generated antibodies and vaccines than XBB.1.16, and even has the potential to evade all forms of immunity, including those conferred by current booster vaccination or by previous infections.

    Preliminary data from the study suggest that current virus vaccines and their current boosters may provide little or no protection against XBB.2.3.

    While manufacturers of mRNA-type vaccines (primarily Pfizer and Moderna) are working to adapt their formulations, it is unclear how long it will take for updated XBB.2.3 vaccines to become available.

    XBB.2.3 is currently the most evolutionarily capable recombinant variant, which appears to be evolving aggressively and rapidly to evade all forms of immunity, develop antiviral resistance to various molecules, and generate greater virulence and pathogenicity. XBB.2.3 is rapidly evolving and generating more concerning sublineages such as XBB.2.3.2, XBB.2.3.4, XBB.2.3.5, and XBB.2.3.6, among others. In these sublineages, worrisome mutations have been detected in the S and N proteins, also in several ORF proteins, responsible for immune suppression and the deterioration of several host cellular functions.
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    #38774
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    So dapat natin sundin ang govt kahit alam natin mali? Kagaya ng sinabi ni uls if there's a few people who are symptomatic and got tested, it will turn out to be 100% PR rate. I-lockdown mo ba sarili mo dahil lahat ng tao according to the government meron covid?
    I don't know if OCTA research re PR rate is right or wrong. I am not a data analyst, a researcher or a scientist. Tsaka yung example mo ganyan ba ang nangyayari? Hindi naman diba. OA lang ba to make a point.

    Pero sabihin na nating mali, iconsider na nating mali nga si OCTA, may nangyayari pa ba na draconian (peyborit term) measures from the government. Yung media sabi ko nag-rereporting na lang, may nangyayari pa ba based sa report nila this past few months. Eh kung yung media reports nga wala na epekto sa gobyerno, post pa kaya ni 11prez. Yun naman sinabi ko diba, bakit wagas reaction niyo sa post ni 111prez. Triggered na triggered lang ang peg?

    Bawal ba siya magpost?

    So anong, what do they say, "pinuputok ng tumbong" niyo ni Uls para magreact masyado pa dyan sa post ni 111prez. What's the basis of your fears? Si 111prez magiging on same level as the fearmongering media?

    Kasi ako napareact na lang naman dun sa OA (imho) na reactions niyo sa post ni 111prez eh.

    Addendum: Ikaw at si Uls kung kumbinsido talaga kayo na mali si OCTA, why don't the both of you all do us a favor and put them to rest via media or whatever. Big time ka naman eh, use your vast resources para matameme na OCTA at nang hindi na kayo magworry ni Uls na may irereport pa si 111prez. Hire the best statistician in the country, maybe in the whole world, para madebunk na yang OCTA at huwag na magamit ng media as source of PR data. Tutal mali naman sila pala eh, so mas madali yan for both of you. The PI will be forever grateful.

    Until then, don't bother me re the issue. Hindi naman ako takot sa OCTA, sa PR data post ni 111prez at sa media fearmongering resulting to draconian measures by the government.

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    #38775
    nationwide PR down to 4.6% ...

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    Demonyo pa rin ang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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    #38777
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    somebody still doesn't get hindi reliable ang positivity rate when only symptomatic people get tested

    it's reliable when you mass test thousands of people with or without symptoms
    Reliability ba yung issue ko? Sige nga, saan sa post ko yung reliability? Magaling ka naman magpost ng previous posts relating to certain topics diba. Paki-post nga? Hindi ko maalala na sinabi ko na reliable or not ang PR or Octa eh.

    Sinabi ko lang what if ah? Asan dun yung reliability issue. The what if pertains to date gathering which I didn't dwell on.

    Issue ko is yung pagtira niyo sa post ni 111prez, na para bang yung post niya magiging singtindi ng kakayanan ng media na magcreate ng fear. Sinabi ko bang same sa media ang possible effect ng post ni 111prez? As if talaga yun ang post ko.

    Issue ko is government is mandated to gather data, OCTA interprets it, media reports and you are saying fearmongering ang media. Eh sabi ko nga past few months wala naman na din ganung headlines ang media ah. Yung vibe nang fearmongering ba. Report yes, but sensationalizing it asan? Asan ulit yung fearmongering?

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    #38778
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    nationwide PR down to 4.6% ...

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    Demonyo pa rin ang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS
    May mag-maoy na naman sa post mo na yan. Triggered to the max na naman.

    Tanggalin mo siguro yung China Wuhan, baka sakaling hindi ma-trigger.

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    #38779
    DoH Metro Manila Regional Advisory No 6 on the remaining vaccines Pfizer Bivalent ...

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    Demonyo pa rin ang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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