China Corona Virus Outbreak

[reiman13]

realistically what's the use of contact tracing when 1 out of 2 or 3 people have omicron?

EVERYONE IS already a close contact

leachon should STFU

Even in here in SG, though govt still do contact tracing but it's not the same as before. Yang si leachon talaga, lahat ng move ng govt para sa kanya wrong move.

[uls]

I certainly hope so. I also hope Omicron is the last significant variant to spread.

Dito lang ako sa Omicron mejo nakampante. Sobrang dami kong erpsonal ng kilala na tinamaan ng Omicron surge pero lahat ay mild - even yung uncle (60+ yrls old) and aunt ko (80yrs old). In fact yung uncle ko ang nagbantay sa ospital sa auntir ko kahit parehas sila positive hehehe. And yung household nila sa QC puro may symptoms (not sure kung tested).

Several; others dito sa Laguna and family friends sa NCR, tinamaan din pero fortunately ubo sipon sore throat lang.


Yung Delta talagang kinabahan ako. We know people na hindi na umabot sa ospital sa dami ng naka confine. May mga pambayad pero wala nagawa ang pera. Pre-Delta, may isa pa ko personal na kilala sa ambulance na namatay.


Comparing Delta with Omicron, ayon sa barkada ko na naka-strike 2 na - may Omircon ngayon at Na-Delta dati.

Wala daw sinabi yung Omicron sa Delat. Yung Delta infections nya, umabot sa point na napaisip siya kung kakayanin pa ba niya.

kinabahan din ako sa delta

sakto 2nd dose ko August just in time for delta

yes wala sinabi ang omicron sa delta

so i don't understand the panic dun sa numero (record daily cases)

omicron doesn't attack the lungs -- nose throat lang

baka akala ng mga tao pareho ang omicron sa previous variants kaya nagpa-panic

[dr. d]

baka akala ng mga tao pareho ang omicron sa previous variants kaya nagpa-panic

ganun na nga.
covid is covid.
it takes insight, to understand the different variants.
even the intelligent and the learned, can take to considerable worry, when it strikes close to home.

[uls]

Even in here in SG, though govt still do contact tracing but it's not the same as before. Yang si leachon talaga, lahat ng move ng govt para sa kanya wrong move.

exactly

may halong politika lahat ng sinasabi niya

[thearsenal1205]

things are going in the direction i'm hoping for

Ito dapat gawin ng PH govt. Tanggapin na endemic ang covid. normal na lang ang high cases arawaraw.

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[Monseratto]

ULS paki translate....Gaano katagal si Omicron sa infection?


Viral dynamics and duration of PCR positivity of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant

Results: A total of 97 infections were confirmed or suspected to be from the Omicron variant and 107 from the Delta variant. Of 27 Omicron-infected individuals testing posi-tive ≤1 day after a previous negative or inconclusive test, 52.0% (13/25) were PCR positive with Ct values <30 at day 5, 25.0% (6/24) at day 6, and 13.0% (3/23) on day 7 post detection. Of 70 Omicron-infected individuals detected ≥2 days after a previous negative or inconclusive test, 39.1% (25/64) were PCR positive with Ct values <30 at day 5, 33.3% (21/63) at day 6, and 22.2% (14/63) on day 7 post detection. Overall, Omicron infections featured a mean duration of 9.87 days (95% CI 8.83-10.9) relative to 10.9 days (95% CI 9.41-12.4) for Delta infections. The peak viral RNA based on Ct values was lower for Omicron infections than for Delta infections (Ct 23.3, 95% CI 22.4-24.3 for Omicron; Ct 20.5, 95% CI 19.2-21.8 for Delta) and the clearance phase was shorter for Omicron infections (5.35 days, 95% CI 4.78-6.00 for Omicron; 6.23 days, 95% CI 5.43-7.17 for Delta), though the rate of clearance was similar (3.13 Ct/day, 95% CI 2.75-3.54 for Omicron; 3.15 Ct/day, 95% CI 2.69-3.64 for Delta).

Conclusions: While Omicron infections feature lower peak viral RNA and a shorter clearance phase than Delta infections on average, it is unclear to what extent these differences are attributable to more immunity in this largely vaccinated population or intrinsic characteristics of the Omicron variant. Further, these results suggest that Omi-cron’s infectiousness may not be explained by higher viral load measured in the nose and mouth by RT-PCR. The substantial fraction of individuals with Ct values <30 at days 5 of infection, particularly in those detected due to symptom onset or concern for contact with an infected individual, underscores the heterogeneity of the infectious period, with implications for isolation policies.

[uls]

ganun na nga.
covid is covid.
it takes insight, to understand the different variants.
even the intelligent and the learned, can take to considerable worry, when it strikes close to home.

kaya gets ko may mga naiinis sa view ko re omicron

pre-pandemic we don't send people home just coz they sneezed

kaya may medicine cabinet mga kompanya

pero ngayon di pa sapat ung walang sintomas

hahanapan mo pa ng virus sa ilong

OA na 'to

di sustainable 'to

look outside wala trapik

parang ECQ



dahil sa sipon /sore throat

[Monseratto]

[uls]

ULS paki translate....Gaano katagal si Omicron sa infection?

Results: A total of 97 infections were confirmed or suspected to be from the Omicron variant and 107 from the Delta variant. Of 27 Omicron-infected individuals testing posi-tive ≤1 day after a previous negative or inconclusive test, 52.0% (13/25) were PCR positive with Ct values <30 at day 5, 25.0% (6/24) at day 6, and 13.0% (3/23) on day 7 post detection. Of 70 Omicron-infected individuals detected ≥2 days after a previous negative or inconclusive test, 39.1% (25/64) were PCR positive with Ct values <30 at day 5, 33.3% (21/63) at day 6, and 22.2% (14/63) on day 7 post detection. Overall, Omicron infections featured a mean duration of 9.87 days (95% CI 8.83-10.9) relative to 10.9 days (95% CI 9.41-12.4) for Delta infections. The peak viral RNA based on Ct values was lower for Omicron infections than for Delta infections (Ct 23.3, 95% CI 22.4-24.3 for Omicron; Ct 20.5, 95% CI 19.2-21.8 for Delta) and the clearance phase was shorter for Omicron infections (5.35 days, 95% CI 4.78-6.00 for Omicron; 6.23 days, 95% CI 5.43-7.17 for Delta), though the rate of clearance was similar (3.13 Ct/day, 95% CI 2.75-3.54 for Omicron; 3.15 Ct/day, 95% CI 2.69-3.64 for Delta).

Conclusions: While Omicron infections feature lower peak viral RNA and a shorter clearance phase than Delta infections on average, it is unclear to what extent these differences are attributable to more immunity in this largely vaccinated population or intrinsic characteristics of the Omicron variant. Further, these results suggest that Omi-cron’s infectiousness may not be explained by higher viral load measured in the nose and mouth by RT-PCR. The substantial fraction of individuals with Ct values <30 at days 5 of infection, particularly in those detected due to symptom onset or concern for contact with an infected individual, underscores the heterogeneity of the infectious period, with implications for isolation policies.

mas maiksi ng 1 day ang duration ng omicron infection vs delta (10 vs 11)

mas mababa ang peak viral load ng omicron vs delta

mas mabilis i-clear ng immune system ang omicron kesa delta pero pareho ang clearance rate (i think coz mas mababa ang viral load to begin with)

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so cannot attribute omicron's higher infectiousness vs delta due to viral load

it must be something else

[yubby24]

kaya gets ko may mga naiinis sa view ko re omicron

pre-pandemic we don't send people home just coz they sneezed

kaya may medicine cabinet mga kompanya

pero ngayon di pa sapat ung walang sintomas

hahanapan mo pa ng virus sa ilong

OA na 'to

di sustainable 'to

look outside wala trapik

parang ECQ



dahil sa sipon /sore throat

Since last week pa. Lahat ng clients namin napupuntahan namin at medyo maaga pa nakakauwi dahil walang katrapik trapik. Baka next week magstart na bumalik dahil matatapos na yung mga nagquarantine ng 10 days.

[uls]

Mons,

kahit wala pa 10 days madami na nag nenegative sa PCR

52.0% (13/25) were PCR positive with Ct values <30 at day 5, 25.0% (6/24) at day 6, and 13.0% (3/23) on day 7 post detection

[uls]

Since last week pa. Lahat ng clients namin napupuntahan namin at medyo maaga pa nakakauwi dahil walang katrapik trapik. Baka next week magstart na bumalik dahil matatapos na yung mga nagquarantine ng 10 days.

mas effective pa mga private companies mag implement ng quarantine kesa gobyerno

parang level 5 kahit officially level 3

sa dami ng empleyado di pinapasok

[Deestone]

Doc willie ong got covid and is now in day number 2. He is saying that this omicron is not mild at all (probably at his age 50+). He is comparing it with common flu lets see if he gets better tomorrow or else he got to do his daily vlog inside hospital room.

[dr. d]

Doc willie ong got covid and is now in day number 2. He is saying that this omicron is not mild at all (probably at his age 50+). He is comparing it with common flu lets see if he gets better tomorrow or else he got to do his daily vlog inside hospital room.

a colleague got covid again.
doesn't know what variant,
but sabi niya, this time, "parang pinaddle ang katawan ko (ng hazing?) ".

while omicron is believed to be the predominant variant now,
let us not forget that there are other letters of the greek alphabet that might yet be in circulation, albeit less common.

[uls]

Doc willie ong got covid and is now in day number 2. He is saying that this omicron is not mild at all (probably at his age 50+). He is comparing it with common flu lets see if he gets better tomorrow or else he got to do his daily vlog inside hospital room.

kung omicron talaga yan hindi aabot yan sa point na kailangan mag oxygen

[Yatta]

Covid: Quebec to impose health tax on unvaccinated Canadians - BBC News

Only about 12.8% of Quebec residents are not vaccinated, but they make up nearly a third of all hospital cases.
According to federal data, just over 85% of Quebec residents had received at least one vaccine dose by 1 January.
Premier Francois Legault said during a news conference that people who have not received their first dose of vaccine will have to pay a "contribution".

[bloowolf]

a colleague got covid again.
doesn't know what variant,
but sabi niya, this time, "parang pinaddle ang katawan ko (ng hazing?) ".

while omicron is believed to be the predominant variant now,
let us not forget that there are other letters of the greek alphabet.

I think for you hospital doctors, the soup is made up of much more different ingredients than what we get outside of it. & while Omicron is the dominant strain now, the common belief in the street is, it isn’t covid but just the common trangkaso or colds as these tend to occur at this time of the year with tests being made to react as Covid.
I haven’t had the flu, colds & coughs since 2020 & credit it to masking, vaccination for flu, pneumonia & covid. While majority of the population was generally free of it in 2020 & 2021, it is more because of the stricter rules which has since relaxed inlieu of the high vaccination volume in the NCR & peripheral provinces. In some of the places I go to where masking is more of an option than a rule (I mask), there is a high occurence of colds & coughs. While they may say that it is because of the weather, I say “yeah, right”. I still prefer to mask up. It became a part of dressing up now.


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[uls]

Canada?



many canadians are tired of trudeau

[dr. d]

some medical experts believe that more covid is passed on (transmitted) outside the medical facility, than inside it.

sa horsepital kasi,
people are more mindful of the PPE and other practices, than out in the community.

[uls]

the common belief in the street is, it isn’t covid but just the common trangkaso or colds as these tend to occur at this time of the year with tests being made to react as Covid.

yes that's what i'm hearing and that's why workers are unhappy with what's going on

kaya nila magtrabaho pero pinauwi

di naman ganyan pre-pandemic... no big deal ang sipon/trangkaso... ngayon OA

it's useless to explain to them that covid antigen tests are specific for covid (doesn't react to other viruses like influenza) kasi meron sila paniniwala

kaya pag ganyan lagi imagine ano mangyayari sa employer-employee relationship