China Corona Virus Outbreak

[uls]

Kung nag postive sa rapid bakit kailagan pang magpa PCR for confirmatory? Kung ako yan I'll assumed na postive na talaga without he PCR then just isolate na


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yes that's standard procedure ayon sa DOH

but it ultimately depends on --

a company na nag rapid test sa mga employees ano next step pag may mga positive?

a) pauwiin lang come back after 5/7/10 days

b) ipa-PCR test

kung ako di ko na ipa-PCR

[shadow]

yes that's standard procedure ayon sa DOH

but it ultimately depends on --

a company na nag rapid test sa mga employees ano next step pag may mga positive?

a) pauwiin lang come back after 5/7/10 days

b) ipa-PCR test

kung ako di ko na ipa-PCR

Isolate ba agad for 1week


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[uls]

^^^

yun nga pero di lahat ng taoke pareho ang isip

ung iba masyado formal/procedural

like si deestone sabi niya sa company nila ipapa-pcr mga nag positive sa antigen

i think madami ganyan and those will show up sa headline number

[uls]

kaya madami company ngayon "pilay" (kulang sa tao) dahil madami pinauwi this week

pre-pandemic we used to not care when an employee or coworker came to work with a cold

binibigyan pa natin ng neozep

now because we have tests pinapauwi natin mga tao na totally healthy fit for work wala sintomas dahil lang nag positibo sa test

the new normal is highly disruptive

and destructive

[dr. d]

now because we have tests pinapauwi natin mga tao na totally healthy fit for work wala sintomas dahil lang nag positibo sa test

but who wants to work beside an officemate who tested positive?

[Yatta]

but who wants to work beside an officemate who tested positive?

Good question. Lets see if anyone answers in the positive.

[ale828]

Kung nag postive sa rapid bakit kailagan pang magpa PCR for confirmatory? Kung ako yan I'll assumed na postive na talaga without he PCR then just isolate na
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Formality nung iba/ following rules and protocol, but if may cold like symptoms ka na tapos nag positive ka pa sa Antigen, sure na yun na may covid ka. Ang mahirap ang dami ko nakausap sa phone na may sakit/sama pakiramdam pero ayaw pa mag pa antigen at ayaw aminin na possibilidad na may covid sila.

Yung maids nung isang relative namin recently lang nagpositive sa antigen yung isa na may sipon lang while negative yung isa na may lagnat at sipon. Both staying isolated on the same room.

[uls]

but who wants to work beside an officemate who tested positive?

pre-pandemic pag may tao in the same room hinatsing o inubo does anyone make a big deal of it?

this pandemic changed everything

naging OA mga tao

now everyone wants to know if you got something up your nose even if you don't exhibit any symptoms

the psychology has changed and that psychology will persist

this is the world we live in now

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so what's the definition of healthy now?

now even if you're perfectly fine but you got something up your nose you're considered a danger to public health

[Yatta]

Evidence for Biological Age Acceleration and Telomere Shortening in COVID-19 Survivors - PubMed

Abstract

The SARS-CoV-2 infection determines the COVID-19 syndrome characterized, in the worst cases, by severe respiratory distress, pulmonary and cardiac fibrosis, inflammatory cytokine release, and immunosuppression. This condition has led to the death of about 2.15% of the total infected world population so far. Among survivors, the presence of the so-called persistent post-COVID-19 syndrome (PPCS) is a common finding. In COVID-19 survivors, PPCS presents one or more symptoms: fatigue, dyspnea, memory loss, sleep disorders, and difficulty concentrating. In this study, a cohort of 117 COVID-19 survivors (post-COVID-19) and 144 non-infected volunteers (COVID-19-free) was analyzed using pyrosequencing of defined CpG islands previously identified as suitable for biological age determination. The results show a consistent biological age increase in the post-COVID-19 population, determining a DeltaAge acceleration of 10.45 ± 7.29 years (+5.25 years above the range of normality) compared with 3.68 ± 8.17 years for the COVID-19-free population (p < 0.0001). A significant telomere shortening parallels this finding in the post-COVID-19 cohort compared with COVID-19-free subjects (p < 0.0001). Additionally, ACE2 expression was decreased in post-COVID-19 patients, compared with the COVID-19-free population, while DPP-4 did not change. In light of these observations, we hypothesize that some epigenetic alterations are associated with the post-COVID-19 condition, particularly in younger patients (< 60 years).

[uls]

Evidence for Biological Age Acceleration and Telomere Shortening in COVID-19 Survivors - PubMed

Abstract

The SARS-CoV-2 infection determines the COVID-19 syndrome characterized, in the worst cases, by severe respiratory distress, pulmonary and cardiac fibrosis, inflammatory cytokine release, and immunosuppression. This condition has led to the death of about 2.15% of the total infected world population so far. Among survivors, the presence of the so-called persistent post-COVID-19 syndrome (PPCS) is a common finding. In COVID-19 survivors, PPCS presents one or more symptoms: fatigue, dyspnea, memory loss, sleep disorders, and difficulty concentrating. In this study, a cohort of 117 COVID-19 survivors (post-COVID-19) and 144 non-infected volunteers (COVID-19-free) was analyzed using pyrosequencing of defined CpG islands previously identified as suitable for biological age determination. The results show a consistent biological age increase in the post-COVID-19 population, determining a DeltaAge acceleration of 10.45 ± 7.29 years (+5.25 years above the range of normality) compared with 3.68 ± 8.17 years for the COVID-19-free population (p < 0.0001). A significant telomere shortening parallels this finding in the post-COVID-19 cohort compared with COVID-19-free subjects (p < 0.0001). Additionally, ACE2 expression was decreased in post-COVID-19 patients, compared with the COVID-19-free population, while DPP-4 did not change. In light of these observations, we hypothesize that some epigenetic alterations are associated with the post-COVID-19 condition, particularly in younger patients (< 60 years).

so how long will that "COVID-19-free population" remain covid free?

sooner or later everyone's gonna catch it

[dr. d]

so how long will that "COVID-19-free population" remain covid free?

sooner or later everyone's gonna catch it

that pretty much sums it up.
but the important thing would be, to not challenge the healthcare system in the process.

[Monseratto]

No such thing as entitled unvaxxers...

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[uls]

the world needs to dial back covid era psychology

if not, there will be permanent damage (baka meron na permanent damage) to the economy and society

you can't keep sending healthy workers home coz you over-diagnosed them

you will drive people to seek livelihood where they have more control over their lives

"you're telling me not to come to work for a week coz you're a germophobe? well f-u... how about i quit"

[Monseratto]

[uls]

years from now we'll look back and be amazed at this covid era insanity

[dr. d]

years from now we'll look back and be amazed at this covid era insanity

the survivors can manage to laugh.

[uls]

kung nagkahawaan and the worst that happens is people get a cold-like illness

hindi acceptable yun?

hindi ba yan ang hinihintay natin for 2 years?

na maging mild ang covid para maka move on na?

it seems hindi pala acceptable ang mild

hindi rin acceptable ang asymptomatic

kailangan wala na nag po-positive

well kung yan ang hinihintay natin matagal tagal pa itong pandemic

[shadow]

kung nagkahawaan and the worst that happens is people get a cold-like illness

hindi acceptable yun?

hindi ba yan ang hinihintay natin for 2 years?

na maging mild ang covid para maka move on na?

it seems hindi pala acceptable ang mild

hindi rin acceptable ang asymptomatic

kailangan wala na nag po-positive

well kung yan ang hinihintay natin matagal tagal pa itong pandemic

Sigurado na ba ganyan lang effect?


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[uls]

kasi endemic na ang sarscov2

it's permanently in circulation

you will keep finding it in healthy people's noses specially coz we have the technology to do that

[uls]

Sigurado na ba ganyan lang effect?


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there has to be a level of tolerance or acceptance

coz zero covid won't happen