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    #34661
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    I have never had sipon or ubo since the start of the pandemic
    i believe you,
    what with all that quarantining, personal anti-infection maneuvers, alcohol and masks and face shields...

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    #34662
    New COVID-19 Variant With 46 Mutations Discovered In Southern France


    New COVID-19 Variant With 46 Mutations Discovered In Southern France | ZeroHedge




    More boosters incoming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    New COVID-19 Variant With 46 Mutations Discovered In Southern France


    New COVID-19 Variant With 46 Mutations Discovered In Southern France | ZeroHedge




    More boosters incoming!


    people in december 2021: omicron is the last variant

    me: no, scientists around the world keep tracking the evolution of sarscov2

    they'll keep sequencing samples

    they'll keep finding new variants

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    #34664
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    New COVID-19 Variant With 46 Mutations Discovered In Southern France


    New COVID-19 Variant With 46 Mutations Discovered In Southern France | ZeroHedge




    More boosters incoming!
    pro vaxxers are excited for the boosters

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    #34665
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    people in december 2021: omicron is the last variant

    me: no, scientists around the world keep tracking the evolution of sarscov2

    they'll keep sequencing samples

    they'll keep finding new variants
    "for the first time in uncounted years, the scientific research community is awash with money."
    heh heh.
    hyperbole.

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    #34666
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    New COVID-19 Variant With 46 Mutations Discovered In Southern France


    New COVID-19 Variant With 46 Mutations Discovered In Southern France | ZeroHedge




    More boosters incoming!
    Another cash cow variant!

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    #34667
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "for the first time in uncounted years, the scientific research community is awash with money."
    heh heh.
    hyperbole.
    Scientists at the plight of anti-vaxxers and COVID-deniers right now:


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    #34668
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    I have never had sipon or ubo since the start of the pandemic
    Me too. But my sinus allergy is always with me. Was tested on 3x different occasions for diferent reasons - two with high grade fever but all negative.

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    #34669
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    people in december 2021: omicron is the last variant

    me: no, scientists around the world keep tracking the evolution of sarscov2

    they'll keep sequencing samples

    they'll keep finding new variants
    I believe Spanish flu didn't suddenly vanished. It evolved into Omicron variant and people stopped paying attention to it or didn't know it evolved to something not deadly. But we have to technology today to track this and we may be tracking this for a long time even if it isn't deadly anymore. Isa isang hihinto mga bansa, isa isang makaka realize na hindi na worth it to track and close economy for a simple flu and cold.

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    #34670
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    I believe Spanish flu didn't suddenly vanished. It evolved into Omicron variant and people stopped paying attention to it or didn't know it evolved to something not deadly. But we have to technology today to track this and we may be tracking this for a long time even if it isn't deadly anymore. Isa isang hihinto mga bansa, isa isang makaka realize na hindi na worth it to track and close economy for a simple flu and cold.

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    The virus must mutate in a much milder form even milder than omicron to the point that no one or just few people especially kids and seniors will get hospitalize. The problem with omicron right now even if it is mild many people still get hospitalize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    The virus must mutate in a much milder form even milder than omicron to the point that no one or just few people especially kids and seniors will get hospitalize. The problem with omicron right now even if it is mild many people still get hospitalize.
    I wonder if it's same with other flu. For some people flu are deadly, but for most it's mild. But we don't see countries close borders because of flu deaths.

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    #34672
    nagpost ako kahapon how a male got saved by simple proning. Ngayon may nurse na nagsalita. Western country ito.

    savedbytheprone,
    Thank you. Well if it's comm common knowledge in the medical field then what are they doing!?

    nurse:
    Excellent question! That’s part of why I stopped working in hospitals. I can’t and won’t try to defend the medical system but this situation has brought to light how broken it truly is. Peat has covered it and I completely agree.

    We proned whenever possible at the acute care hospital I was at when cvid first hit. It’s a fairly simple intervention that anyone can do with a little effort. It requires virtually no fancy equipment or drugs so that’s probably part of it.

    Generally speaking it’s not a money maker so little attention is given to it. Additionally to be able to give people the best care you need adequate staffing which has always been a challenge but it’s more so now with so many people leaving the field. The harsh reality is that much of the workers time is spent triaging so for example if you get called to the ER and someone is coding another person who needs proned will probably have to wait. I suspect insurance reimbursement and corporate greed are involved in the staffing crisis and it certainly impacts care.

    Most of us here appreciate and are willing to do the simple & basic things to help ourselves and others but not all people see things that way. It’s a mess, I’m sorry you had that experience but I’m glad God answered those prayers and someone helped you prone and you made it out alive.

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    #34673
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    The virus must mutate in a much milder form even milder than omicron to the point that no one or just few people especially kids and seniors will get hospitalize. The problem with omicron right now even if it is mild many people still get hospitalize.
    Law of averages


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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    nagpost ako kahapon how a male got saved by simple proning. Ngayon may nurse na nagsalita. Western country ito.

    savedbytheprone,
    Thank you. Well if it's comm common knowledge in the medical field then what are they doing!?

    nurse:
    Excellent question! That’s part of why I stopped working in hospitals. I can’t and won’t try to defend the medical system but this situation has brought to light how broken it truly is. Peat has covered it and I completely agree.

    We proned whenever possible at the acute care hospital I was at when cvid first hit. It’s a fairly simple intervention that anyone can do with a little effort. It requires virtually no fancy equipment or drugs so that’s probably part of it.

    Generally speaking it’s not a money maker so little attention is given to it. Additionally to be able to give people the best care you need adequate staffing which has always been a challenge but it’s more so now with so many people leaving the field. The harsh reality is that much of the workers time is spent triaging so for example if you get called to the ER and someone is coding another person who needs proned will probably have to wait. I suspect insurance reimbursement and corporate greed are involved in the staffing crisis and it certainly impacts care.

    Most of us here appreciate and are willing to do the simple & basic things to help ourselves and others but not all people see things that way. It’s a mess, I’m sorry you had that experience but I’m glad God answered those prayers and someone helped you prone and you made it out alive.
    Ang kulit mo hinde ikaw at mga homies mo na nagmamagaling nanaman una nakaisip ng prone position. Old news na yan


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    #34675
    sha,

    Oh ayan nabasa mo not a money maker

    common ba talaga ginagawa ?

    Kaya nga tinanong ko si doc bakit wala magdemo doctor para pag puno hospital eh sa bahay gagawa ng paraan. Dapat nga maglibre advice medical community ngayon kasi nakakahiya dami blunder from vaccine to fezsheld. Jan ko nga nacoined saan ba grumadweyt???

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    #34676
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    sha,

    Oh ayan nabasa mo not a money maker

    common ba talaga ginagawa ?

    Kaya nga tinanong ko si doc bakit wala magdemo doctor para pag puno hospital eh sa bahay gagawa ng paraan. Dapat nga maglibre advice medical community ngayon kasi nakakahiya dami blunder from vaccine to fezsheld. Jan ko nga nacoined saan ba grumadweyt???
    Last year pa yan. Yun alpha pa lang sinasabi na


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    #34677
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    I believe Spanish flu didn't suddenly vanished. It evolved into Omicron variant and people stopped paying attention to it or didn't know it evolved to something not deadly. But we have to technology today to track this and we may be tracking this for a long time even if it isn't deadly anymore. Isa isang hihinto mga bansa, isa isang makaka realize na hindi na worth it to track and close economy for a simple flu and cold.

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    yup.
    scientists today believe that the spanish flu has mutated into today's much less fatal seasonal flu.

    i personally feel that the covid virus is mutating its way to something similar.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 5th, 2022 at 02:55 AM.

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    #34678
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    The virus must mutate in a much milder form even milder than omicron to the point that no one or just few people especially kids and seniors will get hospitalize. The problem with omicron right now even if it is mild many people still get hospitalize.
    i foresee its gradual evolution into something like the common cold or seasonal flu.
    it'll be a play between viral virulence and humanity's immune status.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 5th, 2022 at 02:56 AM.

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    #34679
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yup.
    scientists today believe that the spanish flu has mutated into today's much less fatal seasonal flu.

    i personally feel that the covid virus is mutating its way to something similar.
    so the question is -- even if sarscov2 becomes a less lethal virus, when will we stop swabbing people and reporting daily new cases and looking for new variants?

    because that's what's driving policy -- we keep swabbing people, pag dumadami cases, governments implement restrictions

    #CASEDEMIC

    when will authorities (WHO, governments) phase that out?

    will they phase that out?

    hanggang kailan itong pandemic mentality?

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    kahit wala na halos mamamatay sa covid i think di parin titigil ang pag swab, counting cases, genome sequencing, tracking variants

    habits developed during this pandemic will persist

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    during spanish flu wala PCR machine, wala genome sequencing

    kung meron, di lang 2 years ang pandemic na yan
    Last edited by uls; January 5th, 2022 at 05:50 AM.

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    #34680
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    sha,

    Oh ayan nabasa mo not a money maker

    common ba talaga ginagawa ?

    Kaya nga tinanong ko si doc bakit wala magdemo doctor para pag puno hospital eh sa bahay gagawa ng paraan. Dapat nga maglibre advice medical community ngayon kasi nakakahiya dami blunder from vaccine to fezsheld. Jan ko nga nacoined saan ba grumadweyt???
    dood, 2020 meron na mga photos from hospitals showing covid patients nakadapa

    dami nga nagtaka bakit nakadapa

    it's coz mas nakakahinga ang pasyente pag nakadapa (pag nakahiga nalulunod ang pasyente)

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    the goal is hoping the patient doesn't die of cardiac respiratory arrest while fighting off the virus

    kasi ang nakakamatay sa covid ung sobrang baba ng oxygen mag give up ang katawan

    as long as you can keep the patient breathing and natawid niya ung paglaban sa virus, lalabas siya ng opsital alive
    Last edited by uls; January 5th, 2022 at 06:02 AM.

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