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    #31021
    Quote Originally Posted by tsupermario View Post
    or serious disease? similar to the argument sa mrna vs inactivated virus.
    kaya nga po naospital kasi serious / critical

    kung mild / moderate magpapagaling lang sa bahay

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    #31022
    probably they’re like condoms. they say using it prevents pregnancy but they’re only estimated to be 98% effective when used properly and when not, the % goes down
    Last edited by tsupermario; August 22nd, 2021 at 12:19 PM.

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    #31023
    vaccine prevents infection and transmission -- XXX

    vaccine prevents mild to moderate symptoms -- XX

    vaccine prevents serious symptoms that require hospitalization -- X

    vaccine prevents death -- ok pwede na


    that's pretty far from the condom analogy

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    Delta infections are so hyped up. It is understood that delta is more contagious than the previous greek letters but not all end up as severe cases among the vaxxed. There are more breakthroughs than previously experienced but it doesn’t mean the vax failed. Protection is still far better than the unprotected.


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    #31025
    Seatbelts then? Or crash helmets? Or crossing the designated pedestrian lane?

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    #31026
    just bought a bottle of Quercetin with Bromelain

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    Hinde ko na talaga maintindihan *uls anti vaxxer ka na rin?


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    #31028
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Seatbelts then? Or crash helmets? Or crossing the designated pedestrian lane?

    i didn't say don't get vaccinated

    i'm not an anti-vaxxer

    this is only commentary

    just amazed how fast expectations dropped

    from "yehey meron na bakuna! malapit na mag back to normal pre-covid 2019!"

    to "kailangan ko mag N95... di sigurado tong bakuna pwede parin ako magkasakit... potek nag mecq pa!"

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    #31029
    ang inaasahan nalang natin sa first generation vaccines is the cross reactivity to newer variants (since gen1 vaccines where designed based on wuhan variant)

    kahit mag booster, the antibodies generated will still be the same old type antibodies with high affinity to wuhan variant but lower affinity to later variants

    quantity lang ang tataas di quality
    Last edited by uls; August 22nd, 2021 at 01:00 PM.

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    #31030
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Hinde ko na talaga maintindihan *uls anti vaxxer ka na rin?


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    shadow, last year we were all thinking vaccine is the only answer out of this

    ngayon meron na vaccine di pa pala

    kailangan nila gumawa ng bakuna na variant proof

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    #31031
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    shadow, last year we were all thinking vaccine is the only answer out of this

    ngayon meron na vaccine di pa pala

    kailangan nila gumawa ng bakuna na variant proof
    Ok na ako sa booster yearly. [emoji23] basta balik na sa normal as long as hinde ako ma hospital at mamatay. Ok na yan.
    Symptomatic and mild lang ayos na rin.


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    #31032
    The virus out gunned science... hintay na lang for the Delta specific vaccine and hope nothing follows it. Kasalanan ng bumbai na lumabas si Delta...hehehe

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    #31033
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ok na ako sa booster yearly. [emoji23] basta balik na sa normal as long as hinde ako ma hospital at mamatay. Ok na yan.
    Symptomatic and mild lang ayos na rin.


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    yes kung sana delta is the worst variant

    we can keep boosting with 1st gen vaccines coz may cross-reactivity parin ang wuhan antibodies sa delta

    wag lang magkaroon ng variant na di kilala ng wuhan antibodies

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    #31034
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The virus out gunned science... hintay na lang for the Delta specific vaccine and hope nothing follows it. Kasalanan ng bumbai na lumabas si Delta...hehehe
    yan nga ang criticism sa West pinanood lang ang India surge walang ginawa (pero as if meron magawa ang West)

    ung "malayo naman ang India problema nila yan"

    hinde eh

    any new variant surge anywhere in the world will sooner or later arrive in your country no matter how good your border control is

    ano ung slogan ng WHO?

    nobody is safe until everyone is safe

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    #31035
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i didn't say don't get vaccinated

    i'm not an anti-vaxxer

    this is only commentary

    just amazed how fast expectations dropped

    from "yehey meron na bakuna! malapit na mag back to normal pre-covid 2019!"

    to "kailangan ko mag N95... di sigurado tong bakuna pwede parin ako magkasakit... potek nag mecq pa!"
    just like, oh im gona use condom so that my girl doesnt get pregnant. den later the girl gets pregnant

    or like, covid was not supposed to be airborne

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    #31036
    Ang moderna hindi pwede sa mga taong mahihina ang resistensiya yung bayaw ko 8 days ng nilalagnat at nanghihina negative naman yung swab test niya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    Ang moderna hindi pwede sa mga taong mahihina ang resistensiya yung bayaw ko 8 days ng nilalagnat at nanghihina negative naman yung swab test niya.
    matapang talaga ang mRNA vax

    diba sa norway they gave pfizer to frail old people in nursing homes dami namatay

    madami spike iproduce ng mRNA vax di natin alam ilan araw nagpo-produce ng spike yan

    lalagnatin ka diyan bibilis ang heart rate

    kung di kaya ng puso mag cardiac arrest

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    #31038
    Enter SAGO

    WHO seeks experts for pandemic prevention group • l!fe • The Philippine Star

    Tignan natin kung may magagawa ito

    Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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    #31039
    At kailangan ng SAGO ang GULAMAN (Guidelines for Unearthing Laboratory Activities, Man-made Accidents, or Negligence)

    Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Enter SAGO

    WHO seeks experts for pandemic prevention group • l!fe • The Philippine Star

    Tignan natin kung may magagawa ito

    Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS
    The experts looking for experts. LOL

China Corona Virus Outbreak