China Corona Virus Outbreak

[dr. d]

At this point better to enforce it strictly. Mas masasalba tayo lalo na tayong mga sumusunod talaga.


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i remember the first weeks of wuhan virus,
we were aghast at the chinese authorities, allegedly nailing down their citizens' doors shut...
"apparently, they knew their citizens well"...
heh heh.

[misseksaherada]

Last Tuesday 2nd dose ng parents ko.. Ngayon ko lang nalaman na hindi pala LGU nag-set up nun.. Yung isa palang HOA officer may kakilala sa DOH at yun pala ang nakipag-coordinate kaya pala dito mismo sa Subdivision ang set up for 50 senior citizens..
Kaya pala mabilis at maayos.. Wala pa 1 hour tapos na.. Next daw, asikasuhin nila yung may comorbidity naman na category.. Baka mauna na naman sila sa LGU namin.. [emoji28] Baligtad ang process, nag direct muna sila sa DOH, bago nila ni-inform ang Chairperson na assigned sa subdivision namin..
Ang kwento ng papa ko, nasa diskarte daw ng LGU talaga kung paano sila makipag-coordinate sa DOH para sa vax roll out.

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Sa mga kateam ko, 3 palang ang nababakunahan.. 1 Cavite, 1 Makati and 1 taga-QC.. Syempre, gets namin na hindi sila honest sa pag-declare ng category.. Meron nag-reg na A4 or A5 ginamit, disaprrove daw nilipat sya B3.. Pero try nya pa rin daw maging A4 or A5..

Willing ka nga magpa-bakuna paano kung category B6 or C naman.. Tatanggalan agad karapatan eh wala nga bakuna maibigay.. [emoji58] Mas marami gusto magpabakuna kaysa forever ma-quarantine..

[dr. d]

Willing ka nga magpa-bakuna paano kung category B6 or C naman.. Tatanggalan agad karapatan eh wala nga bakuna maibigay.. [emoji58] Mas marami gusto magpabakuna kaysa forever ma-quarantine..

i think that is one reason why vaccination programs may be taking forever.
"prioritization."
pinipili nila kung sino ang babakunahan.

what the vaccinators should do, if i were in power, is to vaccinate the population on a per area basis.
por barangay, if you wish.
that way, the locality attains herd immunity, faster.

[H1Tman]

i think that is one reason why vaccination programs may be taking forever.
"prioritization."
pinipili nila kung sino ang babakunahan.

what the vaccinators should do, if i were in power, is to vaccinate the population on a per area basis.
por barangay, if you wish.
that way, the locality attains herd immunity, faster.

Ang problema sa walk-in, mas malala ang palakasan. Kung may connection ka sa barangay, pasok ka agad! When the supply is scarce, then magnified ang inequality. Bakit ba tambak ang vaccine sa Davao? Dahil sa koneksyon! Ang priority sa atin yung may koneksyon!


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[dr. d]

Ang problema sa walk-in, mas malala ang palakasan. Kung may connection ka sa barangay, pasok ka agad! When the supply is scarce, then magnified ang inequality. Bakit ba tambak ang vaccine sa Davao? Dahil sa koneksyon! Ang priority sa atin yung may koneksyon!


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well,
catering to palakasan... we create our own problems.
palakasan creates problems everywhere it is practised.

...bakit nga ba napaka-bagal nang dating ng bakuna sa bansa...?
from what i read, many places in the usa (and elsewhere?) want to get rid of their so-called-not-wanted vaccines...

[uls]

more than a year na pandemic. I dont think people will panic with announcement of Delta variant local transmission.

daoat nga ina-nounce agad para balik ECQ mentality.

from what i gather here in tsikot forum panicky mga tao dito

tutok sa news, bombarded with images of india's surge

kung sinabi ng gobyerno last month meron na delta dito i can imagine the reaction

magdedemand ng lockdown, bibili ng oxygen tank and oxygen concentrator

pero syempre tsikot forum doesn't represent the general population

people outside don't seem to care kahit sabihin mo meron na delta variant di naman magbabago ang mentality

[jasonrey]

2nd dose done!

[misseksaherada]

i think that is one reason why vaccination programs may be taking forever.
"prioritization."
pinipili nila kung sino ang babakunahan.

what the vaccinators should do, if i were in power, is to vaccinate the population on a per area basis.
por barangay, if you wish.
that way, the locality attains herd immunity, faster.

Yan din sana gusto ko mangyari nun.. Kung ang goal naman mabakunahan lahat, after sana nung A1 and A2.. Nag per area na sila.. Lalo na yung mga may sakit at mahihirap dapat sinadya na nila sa area na mismo.. ang hassle papuntahin mo pa sa vax site..

Nakakapagod nga lang sa team ng mga nagva-vaccine, pero para sakin mas hindi stressful yung mag bahay bahay na lang at sa pinto ng bahay lang mag vax.. Nakaka lakad pa at fresh air.. And per oras lang sila.. Like 1 hour si team a, palitan ng another team dala ang next batch, considering yung store hours ng vax..
Sobrang special ba ng pag-turok ng vax? Hindi ba pwede kumuha ng contractual muna para mag per area.. 1 hour lang kaya 50 katao per area, hindi na sila maghapon magtambay sa vax site na pwede poor ventilation pa..
Yung isa pang naalala ko, yung bedridden na tatay ng friend ko, kailangan pa nila dalhin sa vax site.. Though hindi naman pumila, pero hassle pa din.. [emoji58]

[dr. d]

from what i gather here in tsikot forum panicky mga tao dito

tutok sa news, bombarded with images of india's surge

kung sinabi ng gobyerno last month meron na delta dito i can imagine the reaction

magdedemand ng lockdown, bibili ng oxygen tank and oxygen concentrator

pero syempre tsikot forum doesn't represent the general population

people outside don't seem to care kahit sabihin mo meron na delta variant di naman magbabago ang mentality

"ignorance."
plane and simple.

you are correct.
tsikot folks represent that cross-section of the populace that has ready access to the internet and whatever genuine pearls of knowledge and bellicose balderdash therein. (hey! tsikot.com not included.)
heh heh.

but that depends.
some folks sit in front of the monitor for hours on end, while others can do it only after doing their work-for-food-and-luho activities.

seriously,
reading it is one thing; understanding it is another thing.
if one wants to know what the other is thinking, one has to ask that person.

[H1Tman]

well,
catering to palakasan... we create our own problems.
palakasan creates problems everywhere it is practised.

...bakit nga ba napaka-bagal nang dating ng bakuna sa bansa...?
from what i read, many places in the usa (and elsewhere?) want to get rid of their so-called-not-wanted vaccines...

Yung procurement system natin napakabagal. Si President Duterte napakabagal. Normal sa gobyerno ang mabagal. They only have excuses why it can’t be done. [emoji2373]


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[ale828]

i think that is one reason why vaccination programs may be taking forever.
"prioritization."
pinipili nila kung sino ang babakunahan.

what the vaccinators should do, if i were in power, is to vaccinate the population on a per area basis.
por barangay, if you wish.
that way, the locality attains herd immunity, faster.

Problem din kasi is the contract with COVAX for the delivered vaccine stipulates na dapat sundin yung hierarchy on given vaccine to priority groups. Although in small amount alam ko hindi ito natutupad. They can revoke further deliveries of vaccine if these weren't followed.
Plus the fact you have to pick which area should go first with the limited vaccine. Another palakasan move yan. the rich villages where the politicians and their families live will surely get the first vaccine areas.

[dr. d]

Problem din kasi is the contract with COVAX for the delivered vaccine stipulates na dapat sundin yung hierarchy on given vaccine to priority groups. Although in small amount alam ko hindi ito natutupad. They can revoke further deliveries of vaccine if these weren't followed.
Plus the fact you have to pick which area should go first with the limited vaccine. Another palakasan move yan. the rich villages where the politicians and their families live will surely get the first vaccine areas.

can private enterprise source the vaccines by themselves, and distribute them as well?
they can cut thru red tape much faster than government...

[uls]

"ignorance."
plane and simple.

you are correct.
tsikot folks represent that cross-section of the populace that has ready access to the internet and whatever genuine pearls of knowledge and bellicose balderdash therein. (hey! tsikot.com not included.)
heh heh.

but that depends.
some folks sit in front of the monitor for hours on end, while others can do it only after doing their work-for-food-and-luho activities.

seriously,
reading it is one thing; understanding it is another thing.
if one wants to know what the other is thinking, one has to ask that person.

tsikot members are a minority compared to the general population so sentiments here do not reflect sentiments out there

kaya "false"-asia survey di kapanipaniwala para sa tsikot members ang resulta haha

[dr. d]

tsikot members are a minority compared to the general population so sentiments here do not reflect sentiments out there

kaya "false"-asia survey di kapanipaniwala para sa tsikot members ang resulta haha

they may be a minority by numbers, but that does not mean they do not represent a representative cross-section of the population.
do we know what the sentiments of non-tsikoteers are?

[uls]

they may be a minority by numbers, but that does not mean they do not represent a representative cross-section of the population.
do we know what the sentiments of non-tsikoteers are?

that's easy

just talk to people outside your social circle

[dr. d]

that's easy

just talk to people outside your social circle

have you done it and compared their thoughts to tsikoteers' ?

i haven't done it, so i can't honestly assume yeigh nor neigh.

[ale828]

can private enterprise source the vaccines by themselves, and distribute them as well?
they can cut thru red tape much faster than government...

The private companies should but its the availability for purchase of the vaccines that seems to be the problem. Most of our vaccines are those coming from covax or donated by the US.
The vaccine procured by Joey Concepcion only arrived this month considering last year pa yata sila nag order. the orders made months ago by the other private firms are only coming by small amounts.
Its only Sinovac that was purchased by the gov't that has been arriving consistently.

Case in point:

1M more Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine doses arrive in Philippines | Philstar.com

bagong Sinovac delivery today.

[uls]

have you done it and compared their thoughts to tsikoteers' ?

i haven't done it, so i can't honestly assume yeigh nor neigh.

of course i did and i do ... a lot

ibang iba nga

[ray_noel]

that is why, vaccination is key!
nabawasan na ang nagkasakit, nabawasan din ang mutations.

magpa-bakuna na kayo.
that way, you stand a better chance at surviving the more traditional variants, so's you can think about combating the newer variants.

Finish na doc… i think mostly tsikoters already completed their vaccines except for the mahinang nilalang na si kags… sa sobrang mahina, baka hindi nya kakayaning ang vaccine..


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[ray_noel]

Well, assumptions go both ways. Could be that the Delta has been around, it could also mean that the Delta was the cause of the last surge. Either or, Delta or not, no matter what the IATF announces, we should be responsible for ourselves. How often have I seen people ease up on safety just because the IATF downgraded the quarantine status.


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Plus, yung may kasamang nag positive sa bahay pagala2, picture2 walang mask sa gathering… how would we avoid such transmission… discipline lang sa sarili hindi pa magawa, yung sumunod pa kaya sa IATF guidelines…


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