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    A former National COVID-19 Task Force adviser said the number of local cases of the Delta variant in the country might be underreported due to limited genome sequencing.

    "Dapat ang ginagawa ng Department of Health, it should go to those particular hotspots in Mindanao or Visayas. Let's say the Visayas, you have Iloilo under an ECQ," Dr. Tony Leachon said in a Sunday report on "24 Oras Weekend."

    "And then those patients admitted that are positive, maggawa sila ng genomic surveillance para malaman nila whether they're dealing with a Chinese-Wuhan strain or a Delta variant," he added.

    Number of local Delta variant cases may be underreported –Leachon | GMA News Online

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    of course it's underreported

    no brainer

    ilan ang positive cases everyday? between 5000 to 7000?

    ilan diyan na-genome sequence?

    2 or 3 samples per week puro NCR pa

    baka ung mga surge sa mga probinsya past weeks delta variant yan di lang alam

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    #28843
    I've read somewhere about the Malaysia-Philippine sea border as possible entry point of Delta variant from Malaysia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    of course it's underreported

    no brainer

    ilan ang positive cases everyday? between 5000 to 7000?

    ilan diyan na-genome sequence?

    2 or 3 samples per week puro NCR pa

    baka ung mga surge sa mga probinsya past weeks delta variant yan di lang alam

    Are we still conducting around 50,000 test per day? that's why we still hitting only 5 to 7k new cases.

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    #28845
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    A former National COVID-19 Task Force adviser said the number of local cases of the Delta variant in the country might be underreported due to limited genome sequencing.

    "Dapat ang ginagawa ng Department of Health, it should go to those particular hotspots in Mindanao or Visayas. Let's say the Visayas, you have Iloilo under an ECQ," Dr. Tony Leachon said in a Sunday report on "24 Oras Weekend."

    "And then those patients admitted that are positive, maggawa sila ng genomic surveillance para malaman nila whether they're dealing with a Chinese-Wuhan strain or a Delta variant," he added.

    Number of local Delta variant cases may be underreported –Leachon | GMA News Online

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    Easier said than done. Sa NCR lang may pang gnome sequencing. Yung mga nasa Visayas at Mindanao papadala pa sa NCR. And 2 lab lang sa NCR may kaya nyan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Are we still conducting around 50,000 test per day? that's why we still hitting only 5 to 7k new cases.
    i dunno how many tests are being processed by labs these days

    i don't follow things as closely as before

    all i'm aware of is daily new cases (naririnig ko lang sa evening news) nasa 5 to 7 thousand per day

    it seems after the March-April surge di na tayo bumalik sa Jan-Feb baseline of 1 to 2 thousand per day

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    #28847
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i dunno how many tests are being processed by labs these days

    i don't follow things as closely as before

    all i'm aware of is daily new cases (naririnig ko lang sa evening news) nasa 5 to 7 thousand per day

    it seems after the March-April surge di na tayo bumalik sa Jan-Feb baseline of 1 to 2 thousand per day

    Numbers daily test is 50k more or less on weekdays. Less than 30k test during the weekends. It shows by the lower numbers on Tuesday and Wednesday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    of course it's underreported

    no brainer

    ilan ang positive cases everyday? between 5000 to 7000?

    ilan diyan na-genome sequence?

    2 or 3 samples per week puro NCR pa

    baka ung mga surge sa mga probinsya past weeks delta variant yan di lang alam
    Guido David said that out of 5k cases, only 60 are genome sequence. Results comes out 2 weeks after and there is only one lab that does it.

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    Edsel Maurice Salvana


    Phase 3 data of Sinovac published in the Lancet.

    "This interim analysis indicated that, in a population aged 18–59 years, CoronaVac had high efficacy for preventing symptomatic COVID-19 (83·5% relative to placebo) and COVID-19-related hospitalisation (100%) at least 14 days after the second dose."

    Couple of notes:

    1. This still used the old vaccination regimen of 2 weeks between doses, which has now been modified to 4 weeks that seems to be even more efficacious.

    2. B.1 and other variants were already circulating at the time of the study.

    3. I hope this puts to rest all the innuendo regarding suppression of data and that this is not a good vaccine. Publication of phase 3 data in a prestigious journal, along with WHO Emergency Use Listing should quiet all doubts that this is a life-saving vaccine and will contribute to ending this pandemic. All the vaccines we are using will save lives.

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    [emoji630] nambawan!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    A case of the COVID-19 Delta variant has been detected in Taguig City, an official leading its pandemic efforts said.

    1 COVID-19 Delta variant case detected in Taguig City | Inquirer NewsAttachment 39179

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    DOH clarifies: Delta variant case in Taguig not a local case | Inquirer News

    DOH clarifies: Delta variant case in Taguig not a local case | Inquirer News

    “ROF (returning overseas Filipino) ‘yung sa Taguig, not a local case,” Health Undersecretary Maria Rosario Vergeire said in a text message to

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    Former national task force adviser Dr. Tony Leachon said that the government should ramp up its "testings, contact tracings, isolation and quarantine facilities."
    Rappler...
    The country should also ramp up its genomic biosurveillance outside Metro Manila to detect possible cases of the new variant. Infectious disease expert Dr. Rontgene Solante said that Philippines was testing a "very small" number of samples for the presence of the new variants of COVID-19.
    Leachon added that the country should accelerate its vaccination program to get more people protected before the more virulent variant gets dominant in the country.

    PH seeks more oxygen tanks as Delta variant ravages Southeast Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Guido David said that out of 5k cases, only 60 are genome sequence. Results comes out 2 weeks after and there is only one lab that does it.
    basically what i was saying

    out of the 5000 to 7000 cases per day ilan lang na-se-sequence?

    a tiny fraction

    unlike some European countries that sequence thousands of positives per week

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    #28854
    i wonder,
    what criteria do they follow, to decide which warrants gene sequencing and which does not?

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    #28855
    ^^^

    say a returning OFW from a country where delta variant is prevalent

    if he/she tests positive sa PCR, the sample will likely be sent to genome center for sequencing

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    Nothing has change for doh since last year they are still not proactive in dealing with this virus. The virus is like 2 steps ahead and we are 1 step behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Nothing has change for doh since last year they are still not proactive in dealing with this virus. The virus is like 2 steps ahead and we are 1 step behind.

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    Dealing & defeating any virus is very, very complex. Ever wondered why we have never found a solution to the common cold? We just end up managing most of these. There is only one viral disease (among the millions known) man has eradicated & that is Small Pox. They did that by aggressive vaccination, much like what we are doing with now with Covid. Unfortunately, the virus adapts. That is something that always happens. The only bright light, so far, in this fight is the mRNA vax


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Nothing has change for doh since last year they are still not proactive in dealing with this virus. The virus is like 2 steps ahead and we are 1 step behind.

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    the more effective steps are not occurring at the doh level. it can't do much, really. it can only suggest policy; the rest is up to us-the-citizens.

    the more protective steps are located at the individual level: keep using those masks and shields faithfully, and continue practicing un-social behavior.

    the other week,
    two workplace folks attended a family birthday salo-salo. one of them came down with covid, most probably infected in that salo-salo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^

    say a returning OFW from a country where delta variant is prevalent

    if he/she tests positive sa PCR, the sample will likely be sent to genome center for sequencing
    Meron sinabi so Isko na limit ng virus na pag naabot kailangan pa sequence pag hinde, hinde na kailangan more likely regular covid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Meron sinabi so Isko na limit ng virus na pag naabot kailangan pa sequence pag hinde, hinde na kailangan more likely regular covid.


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    Di ko gets, how does he qualify “limit?”


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