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    Most Palawan frontliners decline China vaccine | Inquirer News

    Ayaw talaga nila ng sinovac eh, [emoji23]


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Most Palawan frontliners decline China vaccine | Inquirer News

    Ayaw talaga nila ng sinovac eh, [emoji23]


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    did they say why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    did they say why?
    Did you read the article?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Did you read the article?


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    of course, i did!

    this is another example of the media, not being investigative enough.
    they are happy with yes or no, and decide not to investigate further why the yes or no.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 9th, 2021 at 10:52 AM.

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    There is a correct procedure for getting saliva test you need at least 3hrs no drinking and eating prior to saliva test. Because 20+ of my colleague got positive saliva test but negative in rt-pcr.... the reason is that they did not do the 3hrs fasting prior to the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    There is a correct procedure for getting saliva test you need at least 3hrs no drinking and eating prior to saliva test. Because 20+ of my colleague got positive saliva test but negative in rt-pcr.... the reason is that they did not do the 3hrs fasting prior to the test.

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    mabusisi nga.
    this ka-busisi-ness was not emphasized, the first time the test was introduced...

    but i am wondering,
    i thought the busisi was to minimize false negatives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    There is a correct procedure for getting saliva test you need at least 3hrs no drinking and eating prior to saliva test. Because 20+ of my colleague got positive saliva test but negative in rt-pcr.... the reason is that they did not do the 3hrs fasting prior to the test.

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    Parang baligtad? I thought kapag kakainom mo palang ng tubig, it will wash down any virus traces so it should return a false negative saliva test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    mabusisi nga.
    this ka-busisi-ness was not emphasized, the first time the test was introduced...

    but i am wondering,
    i thought the busisi was to minimize false negatives...
    So is this correct for saliva test need at least 3hrs fasting? and you should handle the testkit with care because it might get contaminated and you will get positive as a result. Saliva test is an easyway but the handling and accuracy is questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Most Palawan frontliners decline China vaccine | Inquirer News

    Ayaw talaga nila ng sinovac eh, [emoji23]


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    Told you, some even had to consult with a lawyer as they are required to submit some affidavit on why they don't want to get vaccinated with Sinovac. Most probably yung wala na kasalanan gov't if they do get infected while in the line of duty na waiver siguro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    of course, i did!

    this is another example of the media, not being investigative enough.
    they are happy with yes or no, and decide not to investigate further why the yes or no.
    Sabi nila when the HCWs found out na parating na yun astra, nag backed out na sila sa sinovac. Hinde naman sila ma bump out daw sa line.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Sabi nila when the HCWs found out na parating na yun astra, nag backed out na sila sa sinovac. Hinde naman sila ma bump out daw sa line.


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    yes, i get that.
    but the question begs, why do they not like sinovac?
    or are they simply ignorantly riding on the so-called bandwagon?

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    Meron ako nabasa na magpa bakuna na daw si doque, Lorenzana ng astra dahil recommended na daw for seniors pero mga doctors na seniors daw pinipilit nila na sinovac kunin kahit hinde recommended.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yes, i get that.
    but the question begs, why do they not like sinovac?
    or are they simply ignorantly riding on the so-called bandwagon?
    You mean itong mga HCWs na ayaw sa sinovac eh mga ignorant? Baka they naman they also want vaccines na meron transparent data?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yes, i get that.
    but the question begs, why do they not like sinovac?
    or are they simply ignorantly riding on the so-called bandwagon?
    One doctor I know said that vaccines have some adverse effect/side-effect that would be felt much later. She does not want to risk it with a product she did not completely trust kaya naghihintay sa vaccine na may mas magandang clinical trial record daw.

    Yung isa nga ayaw talaga, tsaka na lang daw after a few months of wait and see. Ingat na lang daw talaga at keep on maintaining a healthy body (medyo bata pa so malakas pa naman daw katawan niya). Baka may supply ng linhua hehe

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    nasa Pinas na kasi astra kaya tingin nila meron sila better choice

    that's understandable

    pero inisip ko ung logistics

    palawan yan eh

    binalewala nila ung effort ng pagpadala ng bakuna sa kanila

    inisip nila there will be another flight soon dala naman astra vaccine

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yes, i get that.
    but the question begs, why do they not like sinovac?
    or are they simply ignorantly riding on the so-called bandwagon?
    nag usap usap sila

    "pag dating ng sinovac we will all refuse to make a statement"

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    Bakit ba kasi ayaw pa rin ilabas data? Meron ba tinatago?

    Para matapos na pag duda sa sinovac ilabas na nila complete data.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    nasa Pinas na kasi astra kaya tingin nila meron sila better choice

    that's understandable

    pero inisip ko ung logistics

    palawan yan eh

    binalewala nila ung effort ng pagpadala ng bakuna sa kanila

    inisip nila there will be another flight soon dala naman astra vaccine
    Nagamit naman lahat, binigay sa ibang gov't officials na gusto na. Nothing is wasted naman.

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