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    #1361
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    non inverter? Benta at a loss... mura naman mga inverter ngayon
    Sayang din eh. It's less than 2 years old and still quiet.

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    #1362
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Luckily found an AC shop nearby that can also repair inverter boards. Tech is a certified ME who works for ARAMCO but got stuck here due to COVID.

    Had my Panasonic 1hp window type non-inverter cleaned and it's a pain in the butt to disassemble. Taking out the fan cover requires moving some thin freon lines out of the way. Removing the control box requires pulling out the leads from the capacitor. Carriers are more cleaning-friendly.
    Bro may I know your location? We also need ac repair - noisy compressor bearing daw sabi nung nag linis.
    Ipa-estimate sana namin magagastos sa repair.

    Thanks in advance.

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    #1363
    Quote Originally Posted by SRGuy View Post
    Bro may I know your location? We also need ac repair - noisy compressor bearing daw sabi nung nag linis.
    Ipa-estimate sana namin magagastos sa repair.

    Thanks in advance.
    Compressor bearing is compressor replacement. Not worth repairing imo. Was the outdoor unit under the sun? Which model btw

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    #1364
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Compressor bearing is compressor replacement. Not worth repairing imo. Was the outdoor unit under the sun? Which model btw
    Aww sabi nung naglinis nasa 2500 daw - gusto ko sana canvass muna sa iba... Sa fan ba may bearing or same lang un?
    Nasa 2nd floor terrace ang outdoor unit pero di naman under direct sunlight.

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    #1365
    Quote Originally Posted by SRGuy View Post
    Aww sabi nung naglinis nasa 2500 daw - gusto ko sana canvass muna sa iba... Sa fan ba may bearing or same lang un?
    Nasa 2nd floor terrace ang outdoor unit pero di naman under direct sunlight.
    Ah for 2500 that sounds like the condenser fan.

    I just dont trust some technicians.

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    #1366
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Ah for 2500 that sounds like the condenser fan.

    I just dont trust some technicians.
    Same kaya naghahanap ng referrals dito - marcos highway po location.

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    #1367
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    I just dont trust some technicians.
    Yeah parang yung dating pinupuntahan namin that insisted on using chemical cleaners para malinis daw ang fins. Also insisted that ice on the coil is a sign of good cooling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Just a thought - does having one appliance lasting many years make the brand "matibay" and conversely, having one appliance conk out prematurely make it not matibay?

    It feels so anecdotal and there will always be bad eggs in any brand/model. Pag mataas failure rate as a percentage of a large sample size, yun lang yung talagang definitive na lemon talaga - like Ford's DCT. But even then, does not mean that all Fords are bad, because Mustangs are pretty well-built cars.

    So typically I put more weight to people who deal with hundreds of appliances as opposed to paisa isa lang. Which is why I went for Daikin for my aircon - my contractor has installed countless Daikins for his clients with no issues so far. Si travs na contractor din, highly recommended. Then it's the second largest aircon manufacturer (next to Carrier, which has an advantage because they also sell a lot of window-types), so that counts for something too. And on the flipside naman, as mentioned previously, a friend who deals with appliances every day and even works for Samsung doesn't recommend it so I crossed it off my list even if it's relatively cheaper than Daikin or Panasonic. But even amomg these professionals who deal with lots of appliances may kanya kanya ding favorite - wala namang purely objective measure talaga of failure rates across models and brands across the world.

    At the end of the day, to each his own of course - everyone has a different decision tree and criteria when buying appliances. [emoji846]

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    Hi Just, how's your Daikin? Considering having one installed also in our sala dahil sa sobrang init, how much na kaya ang going price ngayon, complete with installation? 1.5 hp or 2.0 hp? Area is around 40 sqm, but with 2nd floor na around 20sqm.

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    #1369
    40sqm? Bitin na bitin 2hp dyan.

    Yung basic na 2hp inverter ng daikin nasa 47k last time
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Hi Just, how's your Daikin? Considering having one installed also in our sala dahil sa sobrang init, how much na kaya ang going price ngayon, complete with installation? 1.5 hp or 2.0 hp? Area is around 40 sqm, but with 2nd floor na around 20sqm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Just a thought - does having one appliance lasting many years make the brand "matibay" and conversely, having one appliance conk out prematurely make it not matibay?

    It feels so anecdotal and there will always be bad eggs in any brand/model. Pag mataas failure rate as a percentage of a large sample size, yun lang yung talagang definitive na lemon talaga - like Ford's DCT. But even then, does not mean that all Fords are bad, because Mustangs are pretty well-built cars.

    So typically I put more weight to people who deal with hundreds of appliances as opposed to paisa isa lang. Which is why I went for Daikin for my aircon - my contractor has installed countless Daikins for his clients with no issues so far. Si travs na contractor din, highly recommended. Then it's the second largest aircon manufacturer (next to Carrier, which has an advantage because they also sell a lot of window-types), so that counts for something too. And on the flipside naman, as mentioned previously, a friend who deals with appliances every day and even works for Samsung doesn't recommend it so I crossed it off my list even if it's relatively cheaper than Daikin or Panasonic. But even amomg these professionals who deal with lots of appliances may kanya kanya ding favorite - wala namang purely objective measure talaga of failure rates across models and brands across the world.

    At the end of the day, to each his own of course - everyone has a different decision tree and criteria when buying appliances. [emoji846]

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    tama bro, i got 5 brands installed in my place (Panasonic, LG, Carrier, Sharp, Samsung). ganyan din sa car brand hindi iisa
    itong biggest air-conditioning contractor dito sa eLyU is highly recommending hitachi brand. they carries all aircon brand naman kaya depende na lang sa preference ng kliyente. sirain nga daw ang Samsung pero meron kami 1-unit at maayos pa naman ang takbo sa ngayon.
    mas tipid daw ang power consumption ng hitachi at 2 daw ang board nya. so bale mas madaling magpalit pag nasira. sabi sa akin... pansinin mo lahat ang mga aircon units ng 7-11 na naka-install puro hitachi that runs 24/7 (totoo nga ito dito sa amin)
    nung tinanong ko ang price ay medyo pricey sya. kaya non-hitachi brand ang pina-install ko sa kanya!

    ang pinaka-importante sa lahat sa akin ay yung reputable installer at proper maintenance. pag maayos ang installation siguradong tatagal ang aircon unit mo.

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    Depende siguro sino malaki bigayan ng commission ang preference nila na brand... [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] kaya maski mga hvac specialist, iba2 din brand nirerecomend... heheh... i have LG and Samsung... so far linis2 lang ang ginagawa...


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    The things I like about our Daikins: quiet (both indoor and outdoor units), have a lot of fan speed levels and are energy efficient.

    Our Panasonic with the same 3 hp rating has quite a bit more noise. The fan is also quite strong at even the lowest setting.

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    #1373
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Hi Just, how's your Daikin? Considering having one installed also in our sala dahil sa sobrang init, how much na kaya ang going price ngayon, complete with installation? 1.5 hp or 2.0 hp? Area is around 40 sqm, but with 2nd floor na around 20sqm.

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    Found this sa FB. Dito sa shop na ito ako bumili ng dalawang Daikin 1hp namin. I think ito ang lowest price even among Daikin distributors. Message mo na lang sa FB.screenshot_20210515-171705.jpg

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    #1374
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    The things I like about our Daikins: quiet (both indoor and outdoor units), have a lot of fan speed levels and are energy efficient.

    Our Panasonic with the same 3 hp rating has quite a bit more noise. The fan is also quite strong at even the lowest setting.

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    Underrated lang dito ang Daikin but it's actually one of the more popular brands in Japan. Cheaper pa. I don't understand why appliance stores do not have Daikin on display. Even other Japanese brands kailangan hanapin mo pa talaga unlike Korean na front and center sa showroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWest View Post
    Underrated lang dito ang Daikin but it's actually one of the more popular brands in Japan. Cheaper pa. I don't understand why appliance stores do not have Daikin on display. Even other Japanese brands kailangan hanapin mo pa talaga unlike Korean na front and center sa showroom.

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    Splits, prefer them served by authorized providers who handle the installs themselves(not passed on to some service contractor)....plus the warranty. Partial to those who've proven to be prompt, careful, reliable...& those who heed our install specs/procedure to a T.
    A pre-purchase tip...discuss about the install, oversizing drainage, minimizing weld joints & OCD/overspec'ing line insulation. The lil added cost to what they offer free will be worthy.

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    #1376
    i agree.
    always oversize the drainage.

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    #1377
    Totally agree with oversized drainage!
    Our 3 tonner had leaks and we found out that the house contractor placed PPR that’s too small! They were insisting that they be the ones to install the drainage with PPR inside the ceiling so that ordinary pvc pipes wont leak. Yun pala sila ang palpak.


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    Thanks Sir Travs, I do remember your reminders about the bigger drain pipe, now I know I also need to over spec the line insulation. About the minimum weld, I'll see to that when I get there [emoji108][emoji177]

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    Anyway, I just came to my senses that this was an impulse idea. To spend 50k for the AC and the resulting electricity cost jolted me, since I am the only one in the sala most of the time. Maybe I'll just wait for a good bargain to come and entertain the idea again.

    Meanwhile, while it's really hot nowadays, I will familiarize myself with actual hp capacities. I noticed today that it took a long time for our 1.5hp window unit to cool our 20sqm room at max cool, 16c, but when I shifted it from energy saver default setting to hot, it started to cool better. Why am I saying this? Cause I saw in the internet that for 40 sqm needs 9400 btu and a 1hp window unit churns up to 12k btu?! Maybe I'll validate this with out room unit in the coming days.

    Ang sarap lang talaga ng feeling na you can do what you want without the summer heat restricting you to your room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Anyway, I just came to my senses that this was an impulse idea. To spend 50k for the AC and the resulting electricity cost jolted me, since I am the only one in the sala most of the time. Maybe I'll just wait for a good bargain to come and entertain the idea again.

    Meanwhile, while it's really hot nowadays, I will familiarize myself with actual hp capacities. I noticed today that it took a long time for our 1.5hp window unit to cool our 20sqm room at max cool, 16c, but when I shifted it from energy saver default setting to hot, it started to cool better. Why am I saying this? Cause I saw in the internet that for 40 sqm needs 9400 btu and a 1hp window unit churns up to 12k btu?! Maybe I'll validate this with out room unit in the coming days.

    Ang sarap lang talaga ng feeling na you can do what you want without the summer heat restricting you to your room.

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    The rule is generally 1hp per 10sqm

    But residential can be a little less


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