Split Type Aircon: Which is best?

[travajante]

Window...Pana or Hitachi.
When Daikin re-entered PH w/ Alenaire(that partnership broke) & had to serve the window AC demand, only Panasonic passed their standards. Briefly, Window Daikins of that time were rebadged Panasonics.
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[Calistro]

Our window type kolin inverter is still going strong.. running almost 24/7.. would only be shut down for a couple of hours when the bedroom is being cleaned or the unit's filter needs washing.

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[travajante]

Our window type kolin inverter is still going strong.. running almost 24/7.. would only be shut down for a couple of hours when the bedroom is being cleaned or the unit's filter needs washing.

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They should've gotten better. Clients & friends who've tried em have been giving unencouraging reviews.[emoji17]....It's not an industry I'm in....serving a parallel 1 that keeps us informed of long-term feedback.

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[oj88]

Iwas sa samsung and idec brands since sirain talaga mga aircon nila. Pati kolin na non-inverter sirain but inverter units are ok.
Panasonic lately has more lemon units acdg to a friend who had 2 lemons out of 3 pana units. Pinalitan nya ng LG and he's happy with LG

Hmm... In light of that, I'll consider LG then. We already have an LG inverter ref that had been solid.

I had to ask because I received a very good offer for a new Samsung kasi. Heavily discounted with part of the install services subsidized. But then again, they're probably doing that as a desperate move to regain market share. And truth be told, we currently have about 6 Samsung inverter A/Cs installed and four of them have had issues one way or another (ie. logic board replacement, compressor leak, and then some).

[travajante]

Some OCD tips....
-Always request for drainpipes larger than their "standard" 3/4". When drain & dirt mix, the jelly formed can easily clog the line.
-Install your wall units on perimeter walls, if you can...where the tubes go straight out the structure. Keep future interior leak risks at the minimum.
-Ceiling cassette units have drain pumps. When the pump goes....instant leak. Avoid these. The blown air hits the ceiling & leaves dirt you'll have to clean or paint over.
-Never allow insulated tubes running thru ceilings bare. Do not believe when they say the lines are properly wrapped. When humid air hits a cold line, condensation is instant. They must be guttered.
-Whenever possible, do not embed lines in concrete or dry walls. They are best hidden behind removable cladding or covers guised as vertical spouts. You'll be glad you did come repair or replacement time.
Collateral damage on walls & ceilings from mere condensation will be unsightly & costly. In areas where you've electrical lines running, moisture contamination can be disastrous. Plus, repaired walls where old plaster meets new will never be as good as virgin 1s.
-Find the shortest distance to the condensing unit. This will optimize cooling efficiency.
-Tubes must have no joints except on the ends of indoor & outdoor units. This will lessen leak risk & make future troubleshooting a lot easier. Pressure test them prior to installation & activation of AC.

And....if you have an issue w/ privacy & strangers coming into your rooms for the entire duration of AC cleaning or servicing; if you can sleep & live w/ AC noise; & if you are not conscious of looks....be practical....GO WINDOW. They're cheaper. Washes are done outside. Swaps are instant & DIYable.
The experienced architects & engineers I know who design & build like the structures were their own..... share all the above.[emoji4]

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[oj88]

The slime that forms on the condensate catch or pan which eventually clogs the drain is caused by bacterial growth. In the US at least, you can buy a bottle of condensate treatment tablets. You put a tablet in the drain catch/pan and it will prevent or reduce gel formation.

Now, does anyone know if this is available locally?

My quick and dirty approach to temporarily clear up a clogged drain is to use a wet-dry vacuum cleaner and unclog it from the outside. The problem returns in a few weeks and it will not help if the gel formation is on the condensate pan itself.

[dr. d]

Some OCD tips....
-Always request for drainpipes larger than their "standard" 3/4". When drain & dirt mix, the jelly formed can easily clog the line.
-Install your wall units on perimeter walls, if you can...where the tubes go straight out the structure. Keep future interior leak risks at the minimum.
-Ceiling cassette units have drain pumps. When the pump goes....instant leak. Avoid these. The blown air hits the ceiling & leaves dirt you'll have to clean or paint over.
-Never allow insulated tubes running thru ceilings bare. Do not believe when they say the lines are properly wrapped. When humid air hits a cold line, condensation is instant. They must be guttered.
-Whenever possible, do not embed lines in concrete or dry walls. They are best hidden behind removable cladding or covers guised as vertical spouts. You'll be glad you did come repair or replacement time.
Collateral damage on walls & ceilings from mere condensation will be unsightly & costly. In areas where you've electrical lines running, moisture contamination can be disastrous. Plus, repaired walls where old plaster meets new will never be as good as virgin 1s.
-Find the shortest distance to the condensing unit. This will optimize cooling efficiency.
-Tubes must have no joints except on the ends of indoor & outdoor units. This will lessen leak risk & make future troubleshooting a lot easier. Pressure test them prior to installation & activation of AC.

And....if you have an issue w/ privacy & strangers coming into your rooms for the entire duration of AC cleaning or servicing; if you can sleep & live w/ AC noise; & if you are not conscious of looks....be practical....GO WINDOW. They're cheaper. Washes are done outside. Swaps are instant & DIYable.
The experienced architects & engineers I know who design & build like the structures were their own..... share all the above.[emoji4]

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i agree.
installing them, permanently hidden from view does make for good-lookin' house.
but come repair time, it promises big headache and considerable expense.
my colleague opted for good looks. now he is facing major work, to fix the leak.

[travajante]

i agree.
installing them, permanently hidden from view does make for good-lookin' house.
but come repair time, it promises big headache and considerable expense.
my colleague opted for good looks. now he is facing major work, to fix the leak.

And i hope he's not repeating the same mistakes. I've been thru all that & gone full circle....If I can't choose both form & function, I'd go for the latter over the former.[emoji4]

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[hachooro]

Replaced our 12 yr old 1hp kolin window type aircon, no issues with it... with a Kolin 1.5hp Window type inverter..so far its ok, i hope it wont have any issues.

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[dr. d]

And i hope he's not repeating the same mistakes. I've been thru all that & gone full circle....If I can't choose both form & function, I'd go for the latter over the former.[emoji4]

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this time, pinalabas na niya yung mga tubing.

[shadow]

Ewan ko naman kasi dito sa atin bakit Hinde binebenta yun line cover ng mga lines for split type. Sa Japan lahat nhn Back to back installation Sa mga bahay meron cover yun lines para hinde pangit tingnan.




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[dr. d]

Ewan ko naman kasi dito sa atin bakit Hinde binebenta yun line cover ng mga lines for split type. Sa Japan lahat nhn Back to back installation Sa mga bahay meron cover yun lines para hinde pangit tingnan.




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i didn't even know, such items were commercially available!
meron ba satin niyan?

[shadow]

i didn't even know, such items were commercially available!
meron ba satin niyan?

I'm not sure but saw them in Japan store plus Naka install sa mga split type ng mga bahay

Pwede sa Indoor and outdoor para ma takpan yun tubings. Para hinde na embedd sa wall
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[dr. d]

I'm not sure but saw them in Japan store plus Naka install sa mga split type ng mga bahay


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the 66 and 88 stores?!!
makapunta nga...

[shadow]

the 66 and 88 stores?!!
makapunta nga...

No. Appliance store in japan. [emoji23]

Pwede din sa Indoor tubings.


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[dr. d]

No. Appliance store in japan. [emoji23]

Pwede din sa Indoor tubings.


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next time na lang, then.
mahal pamasahe.

[travajante]

Ewan ko naman kasi dito sa atin bakit Hinde binebenta yun line cover ng mga lines for split type. Sa Japan lahat nhn Back to back installation Sa mga bahay meron cover yun lines para hinde pangit tingnan.




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We've long been modding these locally available rectangular spouts to hide AC tubes & drains on the exterior perimeter walls, sir.

Embedding lines to make em invisible is great....til they start to leak, need servicing, or the AC needs to be changed & the old lines are incompatible. Collateral damage, the chipping, the repaint, the inconvenience & downtime....just imagine the repair process.[emoji17]

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[shadow]

We've long been modding these locally available rectangular spouts to hide AC tubes & drains on the exterior perimeter walls, sir.

Embedding lines to make em invisible is great....til they start to leak, need servicing, or the AC needs to be changed & the old lines are incompatible. Collateral damage, the chipping, the repaint, the inconvenience & downtime....just imagine the repair process.[emoji17]

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Why don't you import those covers?

Do you have photo of the actual modification installed? Just want to see how it lookslike?
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[travajante]

Why don't you import those covers?


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No need, sir....They're locally made by Atlanta for some other specific purpose. A big part of what I do is R&D. This dint need a lot of figuring out. The installers we tap, the clients & designers we serve have never looked back.
Sadly, Industry practices aren't always the most brilliant.[emoji17]

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[ninjababez]

Replaced our 12 yr old 1hp kolin window type aircon, no issues with it... with a Kolin 1.5hp Window type inverter..so far its ok, i hope it wont have any issues.

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Yan din gamit ko bro para 10 sq mtr room. Mas matipid pa sa 1hp inverter AC fujidenzo (kolin oem).

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