Home security

**mbeige** · September 16th, 2006 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by OILSLICK

hindi ba bawal yang kuryente..

hindi bawal but if something happen esp kung namatay iyong tao get electric shock doun and problema aside pa is potential to get accident isa sa family mo paano kung makalimutan mo isolate ang power ...

dahil iyan plagi ON/OFF iyan sa gabi ON mo power then kung alis kayo at wla tao sa bhay ON mo pa din eh paano kung one of your family nadikit doun sa fence ...

lagay na lang sa fence : DANGER HI VOLTAGE ( parang lang matakot magnanakaw )

Iniisip ko rin yang warning pero para saan pa diba?

Wala naman na masyado tao sa bahay eh, only my dad dahil halos lahat kami nag migrate na. He still has a career and doesn't want to quit yet. Hirap din...

Like I said hindi nga nakadikit sa bakod yung wire so isolated yung bakod! It just loops above the fence sakaling may magbalak sumampa ng pader. Sino bang tao ang sasampa ng pader?

**larshell** · September 16th, 2006 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by wakin

peeps, tips naman dyan regarding home security other than having a guard and watch dog. meron ba dyang parang makukuryente yung magnanakaw?

I have a X10 Power house it is imported from the US W/ motion detector. Door/Window switch. 2Key chain remote and Module for telphone. If the alarm is trigered the system will call you. Almost 5yrs ko na ito ginagamit. Very effective and i have not yet encounter any problems. I have a spare. I bought it last Month for some purpose but na postponed yong paglalagyan ko. Im selling it for a very low price. PM me nalang if you are intrested.

**CVT** · September 16th, 2006 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by larshell

I have a X10 Power house it is imported from the US W/ motion detector. Door/Window switch. 2Key chain remote and Module for telphone. If the alarm is trigered the system will call you. Almost 5yrs ko na ito ginagamit. Very effective and i have not yet encounter any problems. I have a spare. I bought it last Month for some purpose but na postponed yong paglalagyan ko. Im selling it for a very low price. PM me nalang if you are intrested.

Ayos at magaling iyan,- nandyan ang isang produkto ng kumpanya namin, eh! hehehe

I was also planning to buy it last year, pero nag procrastinate ako....

**scarab** · September 17th, 2006 03:04 AM

...pardon my ignorance... pag sinabing the "system will call you". paparingin lang ba yung fone o may automated voice na magwawarn ng possible break in?

**Walter** · September 17th, 2006 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by larshell

I have a X10 Power house it is imported from the US W/ motion detector. Door/Window switch. 2Key chain remote and Module for telphone. If the alarm is trigered the system will call you. Almost 5yrs ko na ito ginagamit. Very effective and i have not yet encounter any problems. I have a spare. I bought it last Month for some purpose but na postponed yong paglalagyan ko. Im selling it for a very low price. PM me nalang if you are intrested.

I presume it's 110V?

**larshell** · September 17th, 2006 06:58 PM

Battery operated po.

**swordsman** · September 18th, 2006 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by wakin

interested ako dun sa nakakakuryente. sa bahay namin me grills kasi kami sa bakod. so paghawak pa lang nung magnanakaw tepok na sya. bka meron kayong alam?

Originally Posted by mbeige

Iniisip ko rin yang warning pero para saan pa diba?

Wala naman na masyado tao sa bahay eh, only my dad dahil halos lahat kami nag migrate na. He still has a career and doesn't want to quit yet. Hirap din...

Like I said hindi nga nakadikit sa bakod yung wire so isolated yung bakod! It just loops above the fence sakaling may magbalak sumampa ng pader. Sino bang tao ang sasampa ng pader?

ah..ang magnanakaw, or isang baliw? doesn't that made you judge, jury & executioner? pre-medidated na, intention is to kill...ng magnanakaw ng bonsai mo. parang mali. ang hirap i-depensa ang pagpatay ng tao, kahit na magnanakaw, kung ang depensa mo ay kung anong intention ng taong yon - which is assumption pa rin...maski patunayan na magnanakaw sya, medyo hassle pa rin...yon pa kayang kung bakit kailangan lethal ang gamit na security measure. saka, ano ba penalty ng robbery, lethal injection ba or life sentence? sa saudi nga, pinuputulan lang ng kamay, hindi pinapatay.

di ba kaya nademanda pa rin si sonny parsons, kasi hinabol pa nya ng baril yong nanloob sa kanila, kahit na confirmed na magnanakaw, dahil yata wala ng imminent danger sa buhay nya at pamilya nya.

sana naliwanagan ka bro. so i suggest consult a lawyer first, or try all of the suggestions above - dogs, detectors, etc. pero final decision naman is yours, so goodluck.

**mbeige** · September 18th, 2006 11:48 AM

He could have also jumped the fence and killed somebody at home when the doors were open. Intention is to keep them off. Don't assume people's intentions if you haven't asked them. Do you think that makes me a judge? That's your opinion, we're not thinking that way at all. Ang bilis mo mag-assume ng intentions ng iba. We have other means of keeping them off like dogs, alarms, motion sensor-activated lights, etc.

I'm not going to explain myself anymore.

Originally Posted by swordsman

ah..ang magnanakaw, or isang baliw? doesn't that made you judge, jury & executioner? pre-medidated na, intention is to kill...ng magnanakaw ng bonsai mo. parang mali. ang hirap i-depensa ang pagpatay ng tao, kahit na magnanakaw, kung ang depensa mo ay kung anong intention ng taong yon - which is assumption pa rin...maski patunayan na magnanakaw sya, medyo hassle pa rin...yon pa kayang kung bakit kailangan lethal ang gamit na security measure. saka, ano ba penalty ng robbery, lethal injection ba or life sentence? sa saudi nga, pinuputulan lang ng kamay, hindi pinapatay.

di ba kaya nademanda pa rin si sonny parsons, kasi hinabol pa nya ng baril yong nanloob sa kanila, kahit na confirmed na magnanakaw, dahil yata wala ng imminent danger sa buhay nya at pamilya nya.

sana naliwanagan ka bro. so i suggest consult a lawyer first, or try all of the suggestions above - dogs, detectors, etc. pero final decision naman is yours, so goodluck.

**swordsman** · September 18th, 2006 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by mbeige

He could have also jumped the fence and killed somebody at home when the doors were open. Intention is to keep them off. Don't assume people's intentions if you haven't asked them. Do you think that makes me a judge? That's your opinion, we're not thinking that way at all. Ang bilis mo mag-assume ng intentions ng iba. We have other means of keeping them off like dogs, alarms, motion sensor-activated lights, etc.

I'm not going to explain myself anymore.

Ok po sir. Pasensya na po kung medyo offensive ang dating ng post. Let me explain myself naman. If you're not thinking that way when putting up high voltage/lethal fence, maybe you ought to broaden your thinking before you kill somebody. Sabi ko nga, mahirap na dahilan ang what if may mapatay yong napatay mo, etc...

Siguro nga hindi mo intention yon, but kasi po 220 volts is not something that would only keep them off, it would also kill them. Syempre, i assumed na 220 volts would kill a man, which indirectly points to the intention of the one who put the electricity on the fence in the first place.

Ano po ba intention nyo sir at maglalagay kayo ng fence na may nakakabit na kuryente na capable of killing a man? Ayan po, tinanong ko na po intention nyo, para di ako mag-assume.

In any case, okay lang na di ka na mag-explain sir. The thread was started as a venue for advice on home security devices, as well as the flaws and advantage of each. I just shared the possible flaws of one, albeit in a 'strong' way, baka lang makatulong. Better here than in an "I-told-you-so thread", di ba. We're all free to heed the advise or disregard it.

**mbeige** · September 18th, 2006 01:16 PM

For the sake of discussion: yung boy namin he downgraded the voltage I don't know how he did it pero it's not the 220V readily available sa outlets. More like half of that maybe 110. We placed it only on one side of the fence kung saan pwede sila magtago, yon yung may metro ng tubig (pinaka kanto talaga) kaya it's only there for those who intend to sneak up that fence dahil di sila makikita kagad. Our intention is to keep them off by placing an isolated wire that does not ground the fence, but rather, just the wire, and let it run ABOVE the fence so that if anybody should attempt to sneak into our house (I mean why would anybody do that???) he would get the warning.

Like I said it does not touch the fence mismo. Linawan ko lang yung point na yon. That is to ensure that kung sino man hahawak nun will NOT be hurt. Dahil alam kong may mga tao who just want to hold the fence just because. Now if they decide to jump it, ibang istorya na yan. Look at the attachment I added maybe that should help you.