Iniisip ko rin yang warning pero para saan pa diba?Originally Posted by OILSLICK
hindi ba bawal yang kuryente..
hindi bawal but if something happen esp kung namatay iyong tao get electric shock doun and problema aside pa is potential to get accident isa sa family mo paano kung makalimutan mo isolate ang power ...dahil iyan plagi ON/OFF iyan sa gabi ON mo power then kung alis kayo at wla tao sa bhay ON mo pa din eh paano kung one of your family nadikit doun sa fence ...
lagay na lang sa fence : DANGER HI VOLTAGE ( parang lang matakot magnanakaw )
Wala naman na masyado tao sa bahay eh, only my dad dahil halos lahat kami nag migrate na. He still has a career and doesn't want to quit yet. Hirap din...
Like I said hindi nga nakadikit sa bakod yung wire so isolated yung bakod! It just loops above the fence sakaling may magbalak sumampa ng pader. Sino bang tao ang sasampa ng pader?
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September 16th, 2006 10:38 AM #41
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September 16th, 2006 12:14 PM #42I have a X10 Power house it is imported from the US W/ motion detector. Door/Window switch. 2Key chain remote and Module for telphone. If the alarm is trigered the system will call you. Almost 5yrs ko na ito ginagamit. Very effective and i have not yet encounter any problems. I have a spare. I bought it last Month for some purpose but na postponed yong paglalagyan ko. Im selling it for a very low price. PM me nalang if you are intrested. Originally Posted by wakin
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September 16th, 2006 03:44 PM #43Ayos at magaling iyan,- nandyan ang isang produkto ng kumpanya namin, eh! hehehe Originally Posted by larshell
I was also planning to buy it last year, pero nag procrastinate ako....
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September 17th, 2006 03:04 AM #44...pardon my ignorance... pag sinabing the "system will call you". paparingin lang ba yung fone o may automated voice na magwawarn ng possible break in?
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September 18th, 2006 12:34 AM #47 Originally Posted by wakin
interested ako dun sa nakakakuryente. sa bahay namin me grills kasi kami sa bakod. so paghawak pa lang nung magnanakaw tepok na sya. bka meron kayong alam?
ah..ang magnanakaw, or isang baliw? doesn't that made you judge, jury & executioner? pre-medidated na, intention is to kill...ng magnanakaw ng bonsai mo. parang mali. ang hirap i-depensa ang pagpatay ng tao, kahit na magnanakaw, kung ang depensa mo ay kung anong intention ng taong yon - which is assumption pa rin...maski patunayan na magnanakaw sya, medyo hassle pa rin...yon pa kayang kung bakit kailangan lethal ang gamit na security measure. saka, ano ba penalty ng robbery, lethal injection ba or life sentence? sa saudi nga, pinuputulan lang ng kamay, hindi pinapatay. Originally Posted by mbeige
di ba kaya nademanda pa rin si sonny parsons, kasi hinabol pa nya ng baril yong nanloob sa kanila, kahit na confirmed na magnanakaw, dahil yata wala ng imminent danger sa buhay nya at pamilya nya.
sana naliwanagan ka bro. so i suggest consult a lawyer first, or try all of the suggestions above - dogs, detectors, etc. pero final decision naman is yours, so goodluck.Last edited by swordsman; September 18th, 2006 at 12:41 AM.
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September 18th, 2006 11:48 AM #48He could have also jumped the fence and killed somebody at home when the doors were open. Intention is to keep them off. Don't assume people's intentions if you haven't asked them. Do you think that makes me a judge? That's your opinion, we're not thinking that way at all. Ang bilis mo mag-assume ng intentions ng iba. We have other means of keeping them off like dogs, alarms, motion sensor-activated lights, etc.
I'm not going to explain myself anymore.
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September 18th, 2006 12:29 PM #49Ok po sir. Pasensya na po kung medyo offensive ang dating ng post. Let me explain myself naman. If you're not thinking that way when putting up high voltage/lethal fence, maybe you ought to broaden your thinking before you kill somebody. Sabi ko nga, mahirap na dahilan ang what if may mapatay yong napatay mo, etc... Originally Posted by mbeige
Siguro nga hindi mo intention yon, but kasi po 220 volts is not something that would only keep them off, it would also kill them. Syempre, i assumed na 220 volts would kill a man, which indirectly points to the intention of the one who put the electricity on the fence in the first place.
Ano po ba intention nyo sir at maglalagay kayo ng fence na may nakakabit na kuryente na capable of killing a man? Ayan po, tinanong ko na po intention nyo, para di ako mag-assume.
In any case, okay lang na di ka na mag-explain sir. The thread was started as a venue for advice on home security devices, as well as the flaws and advantage of each. I just shared the possible flaws of one, albeit in a 'strong' way, baka lang makatulong. Better here than in an "I-told-you-so thread", di ba. We're all free to heed the advise or disregard it.
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September 18th, 2006 01:16 PM #50For the sake of discussion: yung boy namin he downgraded the voltage I don't know how he did it pero it's not the 220V readily available sa outlets. More like half of that maybe 110. We placed it only on one side of the fence kung saan pwede sila magtago, yon yung may metro ng tubig (pinaka kanto talaga) kaya it's only there for those who intend to sneak up that fence dahil di sila makikita kagad. Our intention is to keep them off by placing an isolated wire that does not ground the fence, but rather, just the wire, and let it run ABOVE the fence so that if anybody should attempt to sneak into our house (I mean why would anybody do that???) he would get the warning.
Like I said it does not touch the fence mismo. Linawan ko lang yung point na yon. That is to ensure that kung sino man hahawak nun will NOT be hurt. Dahil alam kong may mga tao who just want to hold the fence just because. Now if they decide to jump it, ibang istorya na yan. Look at the attachment I added maybe that should help you.
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September 20th, 2006 10:03 AM #51sa amin iba naman. 8 - 9 feet na hollow blocks with metal grills pa sa itaas. who in the right mind would be up there touching the metal grills?
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October 17th, 2006 04:28 PM #52just install an electric fence for animals, hindi ito fatal because it has an adjustable pulsating current. meaning pumipitik pitik lang ito so kahit nahawakan ng tao, hindi siya madidikit, tatalsik lang siya. may option din ito na kabitan ng back-up battery para pwede kahit brownout. merong mas 'sophisticated', may alarm sya kung putulin man yung wire ng magnanakaw. saw this sa agri show.
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October 17th, 2006 04:35 PM #53im interested in this. saan ako pwedeng kumuha ng details nito? Originally Posted by C24
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October 17th, 2006 06:03 PM #54electric insect killer lang sagot dyan mga tsong, yung meron ultra-violet light na pag dumikit yung langaw o lamok e meron ka maririnig na "kzzzzt!".
it works on the same principle as a taser, or what is commonly called an electric stun gun. or a cattle prod. high voltage, very low current. it will kill flies and mosquitos but will not kill nor permanently harm a human being. the effect is instant very painful muscle spasms and temporary paralysis. the voltage is somewhere around 20,000-50,000 volts but the current is in milli-amps only. it is the current that kills, not the voltage.
so bili kayo ng electric insect killer sa inyong suking mall hardware or sidewalk vendor sa raon, then connect 2 wires from the 2 sets of grills (one grill is negative, the other grill is positive, alternate sila, just look closely). yung 2 wires na yun lagay mo sa ibabaw ng fence. dapat hindi grounded ha kundi bale wala. if the trespasser touches both wires OR one wire and ground (ground maybe either the soil or the fence itself) then "KZZZZZT!" patay ang bangyaw! the best way to install this is with the use of ceramic mushroom-type insulators, yung white na parang mushroom ang shape tapos pinapako sa kahoy para dun mo itatali yung electric wires, gamit sya nung hindi pa uso ang conduits. kung di mo alam ano yun, tingin ka sa poste ng meralco, either kulay white/brown/maroon naman siya dun. mas maliit na version yung sinasabi ko. tapos gamitin mo e steel cable para mahirap putulin.
an added extra to this is that you now have an insect killer in your house, anti-dengue!
kung may magtatanong, paano kung brownout? sagot: kabit mo sa UPS.
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October 17th, 2006 06:35 PM #55iyan ang libreng alarm kahit brown out meron pa din ,,pag mga addict sa mahjong ..kahit mag black out ka pa Originally Posted by carbomb
meron ako kinabit sa haus namin na motin sensor ....shepherd ang brand na nabili ko sa ace hardware sa sm megamall kaso one time nag out of town kami ng family ko for one day so wala kami buong maghapon sa pag uwin namin ng gabi inapproach kmi ng mga kapitbahay namin ...ang ingay ingay daw ng bahay namin d whole day amf
wala palang tigil sa ka ka alarm yung shepherd hanggang sa maubusan ng baterya!!!! eh wala namang nakapasok o nagtangkang pumasok na magnanakaw sa bahay kc meron kaming kapitbahay na 24/7 na may madyungan sa tabi lang namin kaya alam nila kung mag mag tatangka sa pasukin kami. teka di kaya multo na ang na motion sensor ng mokong kong alarm?
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October 17th, 2006 06:47 PM #56e di naman kaya yung nagmah-mahjong na natalo yung nagtanka na pumasok at kukuha sana ng pangtaya?
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October 18th, 2006 04:58 PM #57naka ad sa yellow pages pero nawawala yung household & business copy ko, paki check na lang under Electric Fence sa DPC Yellow Pages. Will try to find the brochure i got from the Agrilink Show. Originally Posted by wakin
im interested in this. saan ako pwedeng kumuha ng details nito?
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October 20th, 2006 01:12 AM #58Napadaan ako this morning sa Verdana Homes along Daang Hari and napansin ko na yung perimeter fence ng subdivision meron mga wires sa ibabaw ng concrete fence paikot ng buong subdivision. Anybody me alam kung ano yun? Looks like an electric wire to me?
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October 20th, 2006 01:20 AM #59try mo nalang DIY nato di lang pang home pang business pa
http://tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=62906&page=1
sundan nyo nalang mga pages for instructions and visuals
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October 20th, 2006 01:26 AM #60
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