hey yall!! so went to hidalgo today... hehehe asked around... cheapest na d80 is 57k sa henry 400d 37k d40 27k (lahat may warranty and dapat cash para mura)and i saw the sony a100 face to face i think i fell in love... hahaha but it was expensive 68k
henrys lang ang tumatanggap ng creditcard. kung yun d80 57k pag cash 60 sha pag credit card. tapos natatawaran pa yun 57k na cash. diba bawal na yun ganun?
Guys, kung amateur po ako sa photography and I want to get good shots, should I but a digital SLR? Medyo natutuwa ako kuhaan ng mga candid shots ang mga bata sa lansangan. Also I like nature shots.
I have an el cheapo sony cybershot na 7.2mp.
e sir with all due respect, pano ka mag hone ng skills if haven't got the proper equipment? IMO mas madali ka matututo if you have the gear already... kahit ung kit lang...
...opinion ko lang po...
350D is ok na kung swak sa budget. pero kung hindi, stick k n nga lan muna with the point n shoot thingee..
Last edited by umzzzzz; February 20th, 2007 at 09:58 AM.
It's in the eye, guys...
I started with a rangefinder film camera...
PEACE!!!!!!
tama sila djerms kalikutin mo muna yang sony...
ako sa prosumer cam pwedeng pwede na ako...
Canon S3is...o kelan kaya...
Photography as an art is not really about having high tech equipment: it is about thinking creatively, seeing creatively and understanding light. While having a flexible system i.e. a DSLR that can allow you to change lenses, add filters, etc - can assist you in taking good pictures, what separates a good picture from a great one is "seeing" what is not there. Therefore, it would be best to learn to think and see creatively.
One might have a $1000 camera but only produces a $1 picture everytime while another might have a $100 camera but produces $50 pics almost everytime. It's not about the toy - it's the boy behind the toy.
One good thing about digital cameras, whether it's a big-boy DSLR or a small P&S is that you can shoot and shoot until your finger hurts and your memory card shouts "Stop! I'm friggin full!". So, there is no barrier for one to shoot many pictures until he or she develops the craft.
However, there are people who are creative by nature and there are people who are not. If you know basic photography rules i.e. rule of thirds, shooting in natural light, etc., you can take very good pictures even if you are not as creative as...say...Hens or Theveed (hey, you should see their pics!)
What should accompany your brand new camera should be books or materials that you can use as reference as you hone your skills. Learning to see and to think creatively does not happen overnight for a lot of people - it takes lots of trial & error, as well as patience and, at times, intestinal fortitude.
So what am I saying? It's like this - you don't need an F1 car to drive like an F1 driver. What you need is to develop the skills, the mindset and the personality of an F1 driver to be one. The camera, like a car, is just a tool - and as with all tools, it's only as good as the user.
Like what our fellow Tsikoteers who are years into photography say time and again to us - "Wala sa pana yan. Nasa indyan na gumagamit ng pana."
Happy shooting.![]()
Last edited by nicolodeon; February 20th, 2007 at 11:33 AM.
i agree.. sanayin nyo muna sarili nyo with your p&s. i have been taking pictures with my p&s camera for 4 yrs na wala pang zoom yun kaunahan kong digicam. adn yun latest was 2 yrs ago. right now i feel like i need to upgrade na.. ahehehe ive taken i guess a couple of good pictures and i wanna see what else i could do with a more capable camera. check out my little collection of 4 yrs na. ahehehe hinay hinay lang sa comments.. amateur... ahehehe
http://pnoiboitoi.deviantart.com/
Actually I've been tinkering with my P & S na for a while. Medyo nakakahilo nga ang mga possibilities eh. I'm not that satisfied with the auto mode kaya manual mode parati ako. Medyo nakakainis lang minsan, blurred ang kuha unlike sa auto focused talaga palagi. Kasi minsan I want to focus on something pero iba ang finofocus nung cam.
Sorry for the ignorance pero super newbie lang talaga ako. hehe. Just like to take pictures and think of a story out of it afterwards. hehe.
Sorry dude, have to disagree here, your skills as a photographer doesn't lie on your equipment, equipment will only make your results easier, sharper, quicker, etc...
If your assumption is true, then there shouldn't be any great photographs prior to automated SLR and rangefinder technologies... So guys like Ansel Adams are just "the chosen ones" who are born with a photographic eye.
For the "current generation" of MANY (not all) newbie photographers that can afford a DSLR, all they're doing is using it as a P&S but having a better image quality lens, better algorhytm from the processor, etc causing instantaneous assumption that the photo is better.
That's a silly analogy....
A larger sensor of a DSLR, faster and larger lens, bigger processors allow photos to generally have better DOF and bokeh (easier separation of focused subject and blur quality) and faster shutter speed and higher ISO (which allows easier stoppage of moving subjects) are advantageous but are not REQUIRED. You can always get a good, blurred background with P&S if you know how, you can always stop action shots if you know how.
Yes a P&S's limitations will creep up and not being able to change to a faster lens, add an external flash etc does not dictate the fact that you can't be a great photographer with it.
A lot of great field journalists around the world uses P&S and not a DSLR.
(Had to rant, irks me to read statements like those hehe.. sorry bud). Your comment about "mas madali" is true, but the rest is flawed.
These are all shot with a 9 year old P&S with 4megapix and 3x zoom only....
If you've outgrown Av/Tv and even M in your P&S, move up to a DSLR, but if you have a capable P&S with M/Av/Tv and you've never touched them or understood them beforehand, moving up to a DSLR will only yield a larger camera with the same images.
Djerms: Gave you my comments na sa YM hehe.
Couldn't have said it better myself...So what am I saying? It's like this - you don't need an F1 car to drive like an F1 driver. What you need is to develop the skills, the mindset and the personality of an F1 driver to be one. The camera, like a car, is just a tool - and as with all tools, it's only as good as the user.
Oh, check this out... http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/mul...id=7-6468-7844
Last edited by theveed; February 20th, 2007 at 09:56 PM.
Amen theveed!!!!!!
What truly irks me on the so-called "photographers" of today is the notion that photography is simply buying a DSLR and they now call themselves photographers...
I'm sure many of us here have passed through the days when we used film, Kodak TriX reloads at that. SLRs were totally manual and taking a pic from the hip is a leap of faith and hope everything was properly set. Processing the pic means that one would have to spend hours in the darkroom amongst smelly chemicals and peering at the negs as soon as they come out of the fixer, and look at the contact prints using loupes...
But that was then and now we are being governed by the computer chip...
Maybe one day I'll dust off my Nikon FE2 and fire off a few frames again... The next problem is where to have the film processed!!!!!
Veed,
Thanks a lot. Hehe, looks like I have to make the most of my P&S first and get the feel of everything. Yep, maybe I'll be able to appreciate a DSLRs added features better if I make the most out of my P&S first.
Agree. Using my earlier analogy, buying an F1 car does not make one an F1 driver - he/she is just an owner of an expensive car. I think one of the many reasons that people who have he moolah buy DSLRs is because it looks cool.
I'm sure many of us here have passed through the days when we used film, Kodak TriX reloads at that. SLRs were totally manual and taking a pic from the hip is a leap of faith and hope everything was properly set. Processing the pic means that one would have to spend hours in the darkroom amongst smelly chemicals and peering at the negs as soon as they come out of the fixer, and look at the contact prints using loupes...
True. I posted a story at Kameraderie. It was about a chance meeting I had with the old timer photographer of our small town one lovely evening some months ago. One of the statements he delivered is this "DSLR? It's just a computer with lenses."