Anything about PC and Laptop!!!

[Jun aka Pekto]

For the DDR3 2133 vs DDR3 1600 APU gaming performance, here is a link:

Results: Skyrim And StarCraft II - Memory Scaling, AMD's Trinity APUs, And Game Performance

[nelany]

I just assembled an AMD A-series PC for my youngest kid:

A10-7850K 3.7 Ghz quadcore APU
Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-H motherboard
8 Gb DDR3-2133
1 Tb Western Digital Blue SATA hard drive
550w Thermaltake PSU 80 Plus Bronze
ASUS DVD-Writer

Two things to consider with my choices:

I went with Western Digital (WD) hard drives because I've had great experience with them. I started tracking my hard drive usage in 2000 and WD lasted the longest with one (2.5" IDE) dying in 9 years, another (3.5" IDE) in 13 years. Both of them died last year. The rest are still working to this day. That said, I have a number of Seagates because they're much cheaper. But, I expect them to have a shorter lifespan than WD hard drives.

Another thing to consider is the RAM type. An AMD APU will use system RAM as its VRAM. So, for me, it's best to get the fastest DDR3 RAM I can put in. Googling around, there is a 20% difference in gaming performance when using DDR3 2133 versus DDR3 1600.

My kid likes her Minecraft with mods. So, it made sense to have the faster RAM. For general computer use and lighter gaming, DDR3 1600 is fine.

It's hard to quantify if that PC is worth it because shop owners have to make a profit as well. To me, the price seems fair.

I'm also building one to replace the one I use for download. I need a small footprint and a descent speed so I have the following:

1. Gigabyte F2A88XN-WIFI mini ITX MB
2. Delta M300W SFX PSU
3. G Skill Sniper 4Gx2 DDR3 2400
4. Silverstone ML05 mini ITX case
5. 128 GB Patriot SSD
6. Still waiting for AMD A10-7870K APU

[Jun aka Pekto]

I'm also building one to replace the one I use for download. I need a small footprint and a descent speed so I have the following:

1. Gigabyte F2A88XN-WIFI mini ITX MB
2. Delta M300W SFX PSU
3. G Skill Sniper 4Gx2 DDR3 2400
4. Silverstone ML05 mini ITX case
5. 128 GB Patriot SSD
6. Still waiting for AMD A10-7870K APU

Very nice. I thought about getting DDR3 2400. But, the motherboard I bought required a RAM overclock to use DDR3 2400. I stuck with 2133 instead.

The A10-7850K is my first APU. Before giving the PC to my daughter, I played some Crysis on it. At 1280x1024 Medium settings (Shaders at High), the framerates were solidly in the 30's and 40's. He He. I kept looking to see if there was a video card inside the PC.

[nelany]

Very nice. I thought about getting DDR3 2400. But, the motherboard I bought required a RAM overclock to use DDR3 2400. I stuck with 2133 instead.

The A10-7850K is my first APU. Before giving the PC to my daughter, I played some Crysis on it. At 1280x1024 Medium settings (Shaders at High), the framerates were solidly in the 30's and 40's. He He. I kept looking to see if there was a video card inside the PC.

You can still install a low end video card R7 240 for combined card performance.

The A10-7870K is much newer and have a higher video clock rating. Don't intend to use it for games (weak spec).

[Jun aka Pekto]

You can still install a low end video card R7 240 for combined card performance.

Actually, I took out the old 8600GT and installed the GT 730 that was in her previous PC (Phenom II X3 720BE). I think the GT 730 DDR5 is better than the R7 7850K.

I'm kicking myself for giving away an HD 5770 and GTX 560 Ti to friends a year ago. I didn't think I'll need them anymore. I hate being wrong.

[nelany]

Actually, I took out the old 8600GT and installed the GT 730 that was in her previous PC (Phenom II X3 720BE). I think the GT 730 DDR5 is better than the R7 7850K.

I'm kicking myself for giving away an HD 5770 and GTX 560 Ti to friends a year ago. I didn't think I'll need them anymore. I hate being wrong.

Mas maganda naman talaga yung separate display card. Ang ganda lang sa system na ito it allows you add another display card para combine yung video performance niya. So later pwede pang mag upgrade ng system.

Giving away those stuff will give a reason to buy a new one.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Giving away those stuff will give a reason to buy a new one.

I could have put in the GTX 560 Ti in my older daughter's PC instead of buying her a Radeon R9 290x. I recently assembled
a gaming PC for her (Intel i5 4670k/R9 290x/16Gb DDR3 1600). My youngest could have had the Radeon HD 5770 which is more powerful than the GT 730.

I didn't see it coming though. Last year, I thought a tablet was sufficient for both of them.

[nelany]

I'm also building one to replace the one I use for download. I need a small footprint and a descent speed so I have the following:

1. Gigabyte F2A88XN-WIFI mini ITX MB
2. Delta M300W SFX PSU
3. G Skill Sniper 4Gx2 DDR3 2400
4. Silverstone ML05 mini ITX case
5. 128 GB Patriot SSD
6. Still waiting for AMD A10-7870K APU

Just completed building this mini ITX PC with AMD A10-7870K (unlock). This APU is really hot and you can hear the fan at max speed at full load. Still need to break in to see other problems with the set up. So far so good and quite stable. Don't intent to OC although the MB allows it.

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I'm also building one to replace the one I use for download. I need a small footprint and a descent speed so I have the following:

1. Gigabyte F2A88XN-WIFI mini ITX MB
2. Delta M300W SFX PSU
3. G Skill Sniper 4Gx2 DDR3 2400
4. Silverstone ML05 mini ITX case
5. 128 GB Patriot SSD
6. Still waiting for AMD A10-7870K APU

Just completed building this mini ITX PC with AMD A10-7870K (unlock). This APU is really hot and you can hear the fan at max speed at full load. Still need to break in to see other problems with the set up. So far so good and quite stable. Don't intent to OC although the MB allows it.

[safeorigin]

If you can wait long enough (1-2 months), I suggest you guys look at the R9 Fury Nano...



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If you can wait long enough (1-2 months), I suggest you guys look at the R9 Fury Nano...

[Jun aka Pekto]

Since we have a road trip coming up, I'm getting stuff ready. One is my laptop: 14" ASUS G46VW. Its i5 3230m/GTX 660m is roughly equivalent to my old desktop Phenom II X3 720BE with Radeon HD 5770.

It's not really powerful. But, its native res is only 1366x768. Aside from The Witcher 3 (unplayable) and Far Cry 4 (marginal), all other games are playable with Medium or High detail settings. Far Cry 3 and GTA V run particularly well.

[1D4LV]

Ako I am happy with this na.

Lenovo ThinkPad E130
Core i5
8 GB RAM
Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit
Windows 7 Professional Pro on Virtual Box






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Ako I am happy with this na.

Lenovo ThinkPad E130
Core i5
8 GB RAM
Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit
Windows 7 Professional Pro on Virtual Box

[Jun aka Pekto]

I also like Virtual Box. I use it a lot for retro stuff such as Windows 98 and MS-DOS 6.22. I also use it to host guest OSes such as Ubuntu and Windows XP. Some of my IT courses required I make extensive use of the Terminal in Linux. XP? I use it mainly to surf for pr0n. In case malware nukes my OS, it'll only be the guest OS (XP) that gets affected.

[ess]

I also like Virtual Box. I use it a lot for retro stuff such as Windows 98 and MS-DOS 6.22. I also use it to host guest OSes such as Ubuntu and Windows XP. Some of my IT courses required I make extensive use of the Terminal in Linux. XP? I use it mainly to surf for pr0n. In case malware nukes my OS, it'll only be the guest OS (XP) that gets affected.

I dual boot to Windows and Ubuntu.
Ubuntu is my daily driver, and I use it for most of my activities. ANd for games, if there's a Linux Steam version of it, I play it. If not, then that's the only time I boot to Windows.

[testament11]

Hmmm, parang di ko kasi alam ano gagawin ko sa desktop ko, so try ko consult dito kung may makakatulong sa akin.

Just last Wednesday night, ayaw mag-on ng desktop ko. First thing I did, eh i-check yun power supply kung yun ang sira o hindi by doing the paper clip test. So far, ok naman at buo ang power supply kasi umiikot yun mga fans at yun fan controller ko ay gumagana. Now, as of yesterday night naman, ayaw pa rin gumana, kaso "nagmumulto" siya. What I mean is, kusa siyang nag-o-on pero hindi naman siya tumutuloy sa pag-boot. Parang fluctuating kung baga.

Ano na kaya sira nito? Kahit pindutin ko yun power switch na nasa motherboard mismo eh ayaw niya mag-on. CMOS reset was done at pagtanggal ng CMOS battery. All peripherals removed pati RAM, ayaw pa rin mag-on. Do I have a faulty mobo or faulty PSU kaya?

[StockEngine]

How old is the motherboard or pc? There are capacitors near the motherboard 4pin plug sometimes these gets bloated. These electrolytic caps sometimes dont last that long.

Also note of the beeping sound during startup. If there is beep sound there is a message for that. Video card or memory could be the culprit. But if the pc is old. Most likely its the motherboard.

Google images : motherboard bad capacitors

[jut703]

Hmmm, parang di ko kasi alam ano gagawin ko sa desktop ko, so try ko consult dito kung may makakatulong sa akin.

Just last Wednesday night, ayaw mag-on ng desktop ko. First thing I did, eh i-check yun power supply kung yun ang sira o hindi by doing the paper clip test. So far, ok naman at buo ang power supply kasi umiikot yun mga fans at yun fan controller ko ay gumagana. Now, as of yesterday night naman, ayaw pa rin gumana, kaso "nagmumulto" siya. What I mean is, kusa siyang nag-o-on pero hindi naman siya tumutuloy sa pag-boot. Parang fluctuating kung baga.

Ano na kaya sira nito? Kahit pindutin ko yun power switch na nasa motherboard mismo eh ayaw niya mag-on. CMOS reset was done at pagtanggal ng CMOS battery. All peripherals removed pati RAM, ayaw pa rin mag-on. Do I have a faulty mobo or faulty PSU kaya?

Bro kahit beep sounds wala? Try mo without RAM then listen if there'll be error beeps. From my experience laging RAM or grounded board ang problema pag di nagbuboot.

[kinyo]

* testament11 ... that's probably a faulty PSU ... twice i experienced similar symptoms and replaced whole cpu ... only to find later that those "defective" cpu's just have faulty PSU's ... hth

[1D4LV]

* testament11 ... that's probably a faulty PSU ... twice i experienced similar symptoms and replaced whole cpu ... only to find later that those "defective" cpu's just have faulty PSU's ... hth

i agree.... you may think that the PSU is working via the moving fans, but in reality, it is insufficient to power on every thing.

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* testament11 ... that's probably a faulty PSU ... twice i experienced similar symptoms and replaced whole cpu ... only to find later that those "defective" cpu's just have faulty PSU's ... hth

i agree.... you may think that the PSU is working via the moving fans, but in reality, it is insufficient to power on every thing.

[testament11]

How old is the motherboard or pc? There are capacitors near the motherboard 4pin plug sometimes these gets bloated. These electrolytic caps sometimes dont last that long.

Also note of the beeping sound during startup. If there is beep sound there is a message for that. Video card or memory could be the culprit. But if the pc is old. Most likely its the motherboard.

Google images : motherboard bad capacitors

Board is a little over 3 years palang. Kung anong model, ASRock Z77 Extreme 6 ang mobo ko.

Bro kahit beep sounds wala? Try mo without RAM then listen if there'll be error beeps. From my experience laging RAM or grounded board ang problema pag di nagbuboot.

Bro, wala talaga kasi ayaw niya mag-on. Lahat inalis ko na at processor lang iniwan ko pero to no avail talaga...

* testament11 ... that's probably a faulty PSU ... twice i experienced similar symptoms and replaced whole cpu ... only to find later that those "defective" cpu's just have faulty PSU's ... hth

Hmmm, yun daw ang isang problem. Kahit na daw pumasa sa paper clip test, eh di sure kung ok ang PSU talaga, kasi di nakakapagproduce ng enough voltage. Is there a way para malaman kung enough yun voltage delivery ng PSU?

[JJ All Day]

If you don't have a spare PSU (to check and PSU nga sira or hindi), try these:

(1) uninstall all hardwares connected to the board (hdd, odd, ram and all those mounted in the pci and pcie slots (video cards, sound cards etc.)
(2) install only the minimum hardwares to make a boot (processor chip and 1 piece of memory)..

then check mo pag tumuloy nag 'POST'..

Mas okay if may speaker sana board mo para marinig mo ilang beep sound.

Nga pala, try mo din linisin ng eraser yung memory (yung gold tip, kaskasin mo ng eraser)