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**bryan19** · May 15th, 2015 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

If you wanna go brand new, here's the cheapest I'll recommend that can play DOTA 2:

CPU: AMD A8 7600 (3.8 GHz, quad core) - P4,700
Motherboard: Gigabyte F2A78M-HD2- P2,600
RAM: 4GB Kingston Hyper X Fury DDR3-1866 - P1,700
PSU: Corsair VS450 - P1,700

Total: P10,300

You can reuse your old hard drive (it's most likely a 160GB or 250GB drive if it's from a 2008-era PC), case (most likely a generic case but that's fine since it's the parts that are important), DVD drive (you don't need it anymore actually since you can install everything via USB nowadays), and keyboard/mouse.

No more need for a video card since the CPU I recommended has good enough integrated graphics to run DOTA2 for a 1280x720 or 1440x900 monitor.

All of the parts I recommended are available at PCHub in Gilmore, in case you want a one stop shop.

If you want more opinions, I agree with testaments11's advice to go to TPC's Help Me Build My Rig thread. I used to post a lot there before too since I enjoyed helping people build the best PCs according to their budget and needs, but eventually didn't have time for it anymore.

Originally Posted by jut703

Ganun pa rin suggestion ko - just get an AMD CPU because they have better integrated graphics than similarly priced Intels. Intel CPUs are faster but with crappier integrated graphics, AMD CPUs are slower but with better integrated graphics. What makes the AMD's better value is that they strike a better balance of CPU power and iGPU capability.

Even if the AMD CPU is slower than the equivalent Intel, it's still more than enough for Photoshop use or whatever CPU-intensive task. After all, AMD's A8 is a true quad-core, while the i3 is only a dual-core with Hyper-Threading (2 virtual cores).

For 15k, here's what I'll suggest:

CPU: AMD A8 7600 - P4,700
Motherboard: Gigabyte F2A78M-HD2 - P2,600
RAM: 8 GB Kingston Hyper X Fury DDR3-1866 - P3,200
Hard Drive: 1 TB Seagate Barracuda - P2,450
Power Supply: Corsair VS450 - P1,700
Case: Fractal Core 1000 - P1,700

Total: P16,350

You can opt not to get a case to fit in your 15k budget, since you have an existing case already. That build can already play Dota 2 on medium/high settings, and will take Photoshop with ease.

If you really want an Intel build, just change the CPU and motherboard to the ff:

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 - P5,000
MB: Gigabyte H81M-DS2 - P2,300

Net price is the same. You'll have a slightly faster CPU which you won't notice, but your Dota 2 performance will suffer as you can only play at low settings with this setup. It's a better platform though if you add a dedicated video card, but a decent video card like the nVidia GTX 750 Ti is around 6.5k, which puts you way out of budget.

Sana sinunod mo na lang un payo sayo ni sir jut onting kembot na lang eh 10,300 na din un gastos mo. Or un 16k na lang kung 15k un budget mo. And I am sure isang shop lang pinuntahan mo =( parang banawe lang yan shop hopping ka muna check their price kung san mura dun dapat tsk tsk

**3GEMS** · May 15th, 2015 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by testament11

I think mukhang sayang ang iyong nagastos.

Tama si jut, sobrang bottleneck ng Celeron mo. Pwede na doon ang bottleneck mo ngayon. Pwedeng may maganda ka ngang video card pero kulang ka naman sa processing power. Kung nasunod mo yun advice ni jut, malamang ngiting abot hanggang tenga ka ngayon

Balik ka sa kanila at pwede mo naman paggawa sa kanila yun recommended build ni jut. Di ka naman nila siguro sisingilin ng labor fee dahil sa kanila ka naman bibili ng piyesa.

Tapos tanong mo na rin kung pwedeng palitan yun video card mo.

try ko tawagan this morning babalikan do din today if ever pwede ko balik pyesa and rebuild ako bago.. haysss nagmamadali din ako though tagal ko narin kasi plan to... stressful nanaman to.

**jut703** · May 15th, 2015 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by 3GEMS

Wala talaga ako idea bro jut. Sobra mahal ba nakuha ko? Tried Dota 2 watching livetournament sobra lag nakakalungkot naman hindi ko alam sa Dsl ba or sa PC parin. Ano ba dapat next step ko? Magkano ba talent mo bro hehehe. Medyo malakibpala monitor ko 17.5 inches x 10.5.... Nagtapon bako 9K ? Wew.

Bro, I'm sorry to say, but yes nagtapon ka lang ng pera.

You tried to upgrade a 7-year old system, a low-end one at that. Parts for old systems (like DDR2 RAM) are more expensive than new parts (like DDR3 RAM). Kaya ka umabot 9k on insignificant upgrades kasi mahal na DDR2 RAM ngayon. Your GPU is also a complete waste of money kasi nga mas mabagal pa yang GT 730 DDR3 kaysa sa integrsted GPU ng new CPUs.

And like I said, the Celeron procie is very slow for today's standards and kahit ilang GB RAM at kahit high end card ilagay mo, it will perform poorly because your CPU bottlenecks everything.

More bad news, hindi na pwede ibalik yung mga nabili mo. The best you can do is sell it at a discounted price in TipidPC. Mahirap lang nga ibenta yung ganyang parts kaya presyong patalo talaga.

Your monitor is most likely a 20" with a 1600x900 resolution. Hindi talaga kaya ng GT730 magDota diyan.

**3GEMS** · May 15th, 2015 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

Bro, I'm sorry to say, but yes nagtapon ka lang ng pera.

You tried to upgrade a 7-year old system, a low-end one at that. Parts for old systems (like DDR2 RAM) are more expensive than new parts (like DDR3 RAM). Kaya ka umabot 9k on insignificant upgrades kasi mahal na DDR2 RAM ngayon. Your GPU is also a complete waste of money kasi nga mas mabagal pa yang GT 730 DDR3 kaysa sa integrsted GPU ng new CPUs.

And like I said, the Celeron procie is very slow for today's standards and kahit ilang GB RAM at kahit high end card ilagay mo, it will perform poorly because your CPU bottlenecks everything.

More bad news, hindi na pwede ibalik yung mga nabili mo. The best you can do is sell it at a discounted price in TipidPC. Mahirap lang nga ibenta yung ganyang parts kaya presyong patalo talaga.

Your monitor is most likely a 20" with a 1600x900 resolution. Hindi talaga kaya ng GT730 magDota diyan.

Let see bro may statement sa resibo pwede ibalik and sinunud ko lang sugfestion nila. Andito ako now sa gilmore10 Am pa bukas nila..
Any recommended video card for my monitor bro? Hopefully pumayag sila ibalik wala pa naman 24 hrs, in case pumayag ano recommended build compatible for my monitor max budget now is 18-20K. Sagadin nato nakakainis eh

**jut703** · May 15th, 2015 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by 3GEMS

Let see bro may statement sa resibo pwede ibalik and sinunud ko lang sugfestion nila. Andito ako now sa gilmore10 Am pa bukas nila..
Any recommended video card for my monitor bro? Hopefully pumayag sila ibalik wala pa naman 24 hrs, in case pumayag ano recommended build compatible for my monitor max budget now is 18-20K. Sagadin nato nakakainis eh

Bro ok na yung AMD build na una ko pinost. Enough for Dota 2.

Kulang 20k mo for a good video card, kasi nga 16.5k na yung i3 build, tapos nasa 6k ang matinong video card so lalagpas ka 20k. Any cheaper than a 6k card, and it won't be that much of a step up from the integrated graphics of AMD.

**3GEMS** · May 15th, 2015 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

Bro ok na yung AMD build na una ko pinost. Enough for Dota 2.

Kulang 20k mo for a good video card, kasi nga 16.5k na yung i3 build, tapos nasa 6k ang matinong video card so lalagpas ka 20k. Any cheaper than a 6k card, and it won't be that much of a step up from the integrated graphics of AMD.

How will it perform on my monitor ? Okay lang or i need to set to low reso yung dota? 3 MBS pldt net on dota2 pwede naba?...

**1D4LV** · May 15th, 2015 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by 3GEMS

How will it perform on my monitor ? Okay lang or i need to set to low reso yung dota? 3 MBS pldt net on dota2 pwede naba?...

if your monitor is lower than 17 inch, on normal mode (meaning work and browsing mode), it will do ok.
but if your monitor is more than 20, it will not be ok, for higher screened monitors require higher resolutions that the onboard VGA card cannot handle.

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Originally Posted by 3GEMS

How will it perform on my monitor ? Okay lang or i need to set to low reso yung dota? 3 MBS pldt net on dota2 pwede naba?...

if your monitor is lower than 17 inch, on normal mode (meaning work and browsing mode), it will do ok.
but if your monitor is more than 20, it will not be ok, for higher screened monitors require higher resolutions that the onboard VGA card cannot handle.

**3GEMS** · May 15th, 2015 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by 1D4LV

if your monitor is lower than 17 inch, on normal mode (meaning work and browsing mode), it will do ok.
but if your monitor is more than 20, it will not be ok, for higher screened monitors require higher resolutions that the onboard VGA card cannot handle.

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if your monitor is lower than 17 inch, on normal mode (meaning work and browsing mode), it will do ok.
but if your monitor is more than 20, it will not be ok, for higher screened monitors require higher resolutions that the onboard VGA card cannot handle.

Its 17.5 inches monitor sinukat ko lol. Pwede na dota 2 using your suggested build on my screen? Im willing to pay more kahit abot ako 22k siguro basta okay na specs at tatagal ng ilan tao .

**1D4LV** · May 15th, 2015 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by 3GEMS

Its 17.5 inches monitor sinukat ko lol. Pwede na dota 2 using your suggested build on my screen? Im willing to pay more kahit abot ako 22k siguro basta okay na specs at tatagal ng ilan tao .

pwede pa yan pre on the onboard video card.

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Originally Posted by 3GEMS

Its 17.5 inches monitor sinukat ko lol. Pwede na dota 2 using your suggested build on my screen? Im willing to pay more kahit abot ako 22k siguro basta okay na specs at tatagal ng ilan tao .

pwede pa yan pre on the onboard video card.