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    Good to see new faces on the podium. Kudos to Rosberg! Any news yet on sanction imposed to DR if any ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Good to see new faces on the podium. Kudos to Rosberg! Any news yet on sanction imposed to DR if any ?
    FIA Memo:

    http://184.106.145.74/f1-championshi...t%20-%2056.pdf

    From The*FIA*Stewards*of*the*Meeting
    To The*Team*Manager,
    Infiniti*Red*Bull*Racing
    Document 56
    Date 16*March*2014
    Time 23:55
    2014*AUSTRALIAN*GRAND*PRIX
    The*Stewards,*having*received*a*report*from*the*Te chnical*Delegate,*heard*from*the*team
    representatives,*have*considered*the*following*mat ter*and*determine*a*breach*of*the*regulations*has
    been*committed*by*the*competitor*named*below*and*i mpose*the*penalty*referred*to.
    *
    *
    N°*/*Driver 3,*Daniel*Ricciardo
    *
    Competitor Infinity*Red*Bull*Racing
    *
    Time 20:17
    *
    Session Race
    *
    Facts Car*3*was*not*in*compliance*with*Article*5.1.4*of* the*FIA*Formula*One*Technical
    Regulations.

    * Offence Breach*of*Article*3.2*of*the*FIA*Formula*One*Sport ing*Regulations*and*Article
    5.1.4*of*the*FIA*Formula*One*Technical*Regulations .
    *
    Decision Car*3*is*excluded*from*the*Race*Results.
    *
    Reason
    1)*********The*Technical*Delegate*reported*to*the* Stewards*that*Car*3*exceeded
    the*required*fuel*mass*flow*of*100kg/h.**(Article*5.1.4*of*the*Formula*One
    Technical*Regulations)
    *
    2)*********This*parameter*is*outside*of*the*contro l*of*the*driver,*Daniel*Ricciardo.
    *
    3)*********The*fuel*flow*is*measured*using*the*fue l*flow*sensor*(Art.*5.10.3*&*5.10.4
    of*the*Technical*Regulations)*which*is*homologated *by*the*FIA*and*owned*and
    operated*by*the*team.
    *
    4)*********The*stewards*considered*the*history*of* the*fitted*fuel*flow*sensor,*as
    described*by*the*team*and*the*Technical*Delegate’s *representative*who
    administers*the*program.*Their*description*of*the* history*of*the*sensor*matches.
    *
    a.*********During*Practice*1*a*difference*in*readi ng*between*the*first*three*and*Run
    4*was*detected.*The*same*readings*as*Run*4*were*ob served*throughout
    Practice*2.
    *
    b.*********The*team*used*a*different*sensor*on*Sat urday*but*did*not*get*readings
    that*were*satisfactory*to*them*or*the*FIA,*so*they *were*instructed*to*change*the
    sensor*within*Parc*Ferme*on*Saturday*night.
    *
    c.*********They*operated*the*original*sensor*durin g*the*race,*which*provided*thesame*readings*as*Run *4*of*Practice*1,*and*Practice*2.
    *
    5)*********The*Stewards*heard*from*the*technical*r epresentative*that*when*the
    sensor*was*installed*on*Saturday*night,*he*instruc ted*the*team*to*apply*an*offset
    to*their*fuel*flow*such*that*the*fuel*flow*would*h ave*been*legal.*He*presented*an
    email*to*the*stewards*that*verified*his*instructio n.
    *
    6)*********The*technical*representative*stated*to* the*Stewards*that*there*is*variation
    in*the*sensors.*However,*the*sensors*fall*within*a *known*range,*and*are
    individually*calibrated.*They*then*become*the*stan dard*which*the*teams*must*use
    for*their*fuel*flow.
    *
    7)*********The*team*stated*that*based*on*the*diffe rence*observed*between*the*two
    readings*in*P1,*they*considered*the*fuel*flow*sens or*to*be*unreliable.*Therefore,
    for*the*start*of*the*race*they*chose*to*use*their* internal*fuel*flow*model,*rather
    than*the*values*provided*by*the*sensor,*with*the*r equired*offset.
    *
    8)*********Technical*Directive*016*14*(1*March*201 4)*provides*the*methodology*by
    which*the*sensor*will*be*used,*and,*should*the*sen sor*fail,*the*method*by*which
    the*alternate*model*could*be*used.
    *
    a.*********The*Technical*Directive*starts*by*stati ng:*“The*homologated*fuel*flow
    sensor*will*be*the*primary*measurement*of*the*fuel *flow*and*will*be*used*to*check
    compliance*with*Articles*5.1.4*and*5.1.5*of*the*F1 *Technical*Regulations…”*This
    is*in*conformity*with*Articles*5.10.3*and*5.10.4*o f*the*Technical*Regulations.
    *
    b.*********The*Technical*Directive*goes*on*to*stat e:*“If*at*any*time*WE*consider*that
    the*sensor*has*an*issue*which*has*not*been*detecte d*by*the*system*WE*will
    communicate*this*to*the*team*concerned*and*switch* to*a*backup*system”
    (emphasis*added.)
    *
    c.*********The*backup*system*is*the*calculated*fue l*flow*model*with*a*correction
    factor*decided*by*the*FIA.
    *
    9)*********The*FIA*technical*representative*observ ed*thought*the*telemetry*during
    the*race*that*the*fuel*flow*was*too*high*and*conta cted*the*team,*giving*them*the
    opportunity*to*follow*his*previous*instruction,*an d*reduce*the*fuel*flow*such*that*it
    was*within*the*limit,*as*measured*by*the*homologat ed*sensor*–*and*thus*gave*the
    team*the*opportunity*to*be*within*compliance.*The* team*chose*not*to*make*this
    correction.
    *
    10)*******Under*Art.*3.2*of*the*Sporting*Regulatio ns*it*is*the*duty*of*the*team*to
    ensure*compliance*with*the*Technical*Regulations*t hroughout*the*Event.
    Thus*the*Stewards*find*that:
    *
    A)********The*team*chose*to*run*the*car*using*thei r*fuel*flow*model,*without
    direction*from*the*FIA.*This*is*a*violation*of*the *procedure*within*TD/*016*14.
    *
    B)********That*although*the*sensor*showed*a*differ ence*in*readings*between*runs
    in*P1,*it*remains*the*homologated*and*required*sen sor*against*which*the*team*is
    obliged*to*measure*their*fuel*flow,*unless*given*p ermission*by*the*FIA*to*do
    otherwise.
    *
    C)********The*Stewards*were*satisfied*by*the*expla nation*of*the*technical
    representative*that*by*making*an*adjustment*as*ins tructed,*the*team*could*have
    run*within*the*allowable*fuel*flow.
    *
    D)********That*regardless*of*the*team’s*assertion* that*the*sensor*was*fault,*it*is*not
    within*their*discretion*to*run*a*different*fuel*fl ow*measurement*method*without*the
    permission*of*the*FIA.
    **
    The*Stewards*find*that*Car*3*was*out*of*compliance *with*the*Technical
    Regulations*and*is*therefore*excluded*from*the*res ults*of*the*race.
    The*FIA*Stewards*of*the*Meeting

    Gerd*Ennser
    Tim*Mayer
    Emanuele*Pirro
    Steve*Chopping
    TL:DR: Daniel's car used too much fuel in FP3. FIA warned Red Bull. Red Bull complained sensor was malfunctioning. They got a new sensor. New sensor said same thing. They put back old sensor. Same thing. Red Bull told to dial back fuel. During race, same thing: Car using too much fuel. Red Bull told to dial back fuel. They refused. BAM. Disqualified.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    2014 Australian GP Race results



    Since DR has been disqualified, Jenson shall now move up to 3rd place in the rankings.

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    Not only Jenson but from Magnussen up to Sergio Perez moves up a placing...
    Last edited by Monseratto; March 17th, 2014 at 08:06 AM.

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    I'm for Kimi, Rosberg, Hamilton......anyone BUT vettel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    FIA Memo:

    TL:DR: Daniel's car used too much fuel in FP3. FIA warned Red Bull. Red Bull complained sensor was malfunctioning. They got a new sensor. New sensor said same thing. They put back old sensor. Same thing. Red Bull told to dial back fuel. During race, same thing: Car using too much fuel. Red Bull told to dial back fuel. They refused. BAM. Disqualified.
    FIA must drop this stupid fuel flow limit. They've already imposed fuel restriction and still they have to restrict fuel flow to 100kg/h that will be measured by their problematic sensor.

    This is the same sensor that's caused problem to vettel's aggressive map.

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    Too quiet!

    Aussie GP furious with F1's purring engines
    The first Grand Prix group is not happy with the product on track.

    Mar.17 (GMM) Organisers of the Australian Grand Prix are furious with F1's new low volume.

    Even some of the sport's stalwarts were alarmed in Melbourne when the 22 cars purred towards the first corner in Melbourne on Sunday.

    "At first I said 'Just take out your earplugs, it's the same as before'," triple world champion Lauda told the German broadcaster RTL.

    "But I have to honestly say I was slightly disappointed today on television, especially at the start. Simply something was missing," he added.

    "Before, it (the sound) was right down to the marrow. We need to get used to it but it has lost some of its attraction," said Lauda.

    World champion Sebastian Vettel said driving in Melbourne felt more like being at the wheel of "a vacuum cleaner than a racing car".

    F1's most experienced active driver Jenson Button is also worried, especially after a V10-equipped demonstration car did laps at Albert Park at the weekend.

    "Oh my god I miss that," he said. "It sounded amazing. Those were great years for the sound of the engine, but that is no more."

    Most in the F1 paddock are disappointed, but Australian Grand Prix corporation chief executive Andrew Westacott has revealed he is actually angry.

    "We pay for a product, we've got contracts in place, we are looking at those very, very seriously because we reckon there has probably been some breaches," he told Fairfax Radio on Monday.

    But Lauda, who is dominant Mercedes' F1 chairman, said it would be wrong to tinker with the engine rules just because the sport is now quieter.

    "Everyone wants to do something about it, but you can't just change the exhaust pipe, you'd have to redevelop the whole engine and the mapping," he said. "That's just way too expensive.

    "Please do not change the engines just to make a bit more noise," he exclaimed.

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    call me racist or not but i'm tired of hearing Germany's national anthem. any winning driver besides Seb,Ros,Sutil and Hulk will do

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    The ICE "Cream" Man...


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    At least you don't need earplugs anymore when attending a F1 Race...

    Last edited by Monseratto; March 18th, 2014 at 03:39 PM.

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    O nga eh. What a letdown though.

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    Ecclestone to push for louder F1 engines

    Bernie Ecclestone has vowed to get to work on making formula one loud again.

    The F1 chief executive said he is "horrified" by the purring tones of the new turbo V6 era, arguing it will drive race promoters and spectators away.

    Ecclestone was critical of the new engine formula long before the first 1.6 litre 'power unit' was fired up, but his latest comments follow Melbourne race organisers' claim the low volume may even be a breach of contract.

    "It's not what we paid for. It's going to change," Australian Grand Prix chairman Ron Walker told Melbourne's Age newspaper.

    Walker said he has spoken to his friend Ecclestone already, while Ecclestone admitted he has been on the phone to FIA president Jean Todt.

    "What I've said is that we need to see whether there is some way of making them sound like racing cars," the 83-year-old Briton told the Telegraph.

    "I don't know whether it's possible but we should investigate.

    "I think let's get the first few races out of the way and then maybe look to do something. We can't wait all season. It could be too late by then," said Ecclestone.

    Source: Ecclestone to push for louder F1 engines > F1 News > Grandprix.com
    Ecclestone to push for louder F1 engines > F1 News > Grandprix.com

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    ^Yah. Make it louder, this is F1 for f*cks sake and increase the fuel limit and let them race.

    Last season's delta was about the tires. This season is about the fuel limit and the stupid fuel flow limit to be measured by FIA's problematic sensor.

    You want to comply with FIA's fuel flow limit using FIA's problematic sensor? Dial your fuel flow lower, so if the limit is 100kg/hr.. set it to 96kg/hr to comply.

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    FIA should bring back the screaming engines. Inaantok na ko habang nanonood ng race.


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    Ecclestone admits that 2014 season could be last as F1 boss



    Bernie Ecclestone has admitted that the 2014 season could be his last at the helm of Formula 1.

    However, he insists that is not because of the Gerhard Gribkowsky corruption scandal, that if found guilty would at best see him fired and at worst land him in a German jail.

    Until now, the Formula 1 Chief Executive has always said that he has no intention of stepping down.

    “As long as I feel I can deliver, and the shareholders are happy for that to happen, I will stay,” the diminutive Briton said in 2012.

    But Ecclestone has now admitted that he is thinking about retiring.

    “I’m going to be 84 at the end of this year so I am probably going to have to start to think, do I want to go into the 85th year doing what I’ve been doing for goddamn how many years?” he is quoted by the Mirror.

    “It’s something I’ll have to give some very serious thought to.”

    Ecclestone likened his thoughts about quitting to a sports star at the top of his game.

    “The important thing is to know when you should hang the boxing gloves up,” he said, “so you are not going to end up going into the ring and getting a good hiding.”

    He claims that the Gribkowsky case, in which he is accused of bribing the now-jailed Gribkowsky to the tune of millions of dollars, has nothing to do with his new retirement thoughts.

    “No, that’s nothing. No, no,” Ecclestone insisted. “It’s the way people have to run businesses today compared to how they used to.”

    He said he is referring to today’s era of “corporate governance”, involving “different committees, ethics committees and god knows what else boards to report to”.

    “I didn’t know about any of these things back then,” said Ecclestone. “Probably, if I had of …, I wouldn’t have lasted as long as I lasted.

    “And we will be more restricted as time goes on. That’s how the world is. It’s coming that way. I don’t agree with it.

    “What we are slowly but surely managing to do is get rid of entrepreneurs. Getting rid of people who “think outside the box,” he said. (GMM)

    Source: Ecclestone admits that 2014 season could be last as F1 boss | Grand Prix 247
    Ecclestone admits that 2014 season could be last as F1 boss | Grand Prix 247

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    Malaysian heat will test limits of new F1 power units



    According to Mercedes ‘cooling’ will be the buzzword when Formula 1 descends on Sepang for the Malaysian Grand Prix weekend.

    The German marque dominated in Melbourne, but Sepang is always among the very hottest destinations on the Formula 1 calendar — and the new ‘power unit’ rules for 2014 are posing much greater cooling problems for the teams.

    “New GP, new problems,” Mercedes chairman Niki Lauda told Osterreich newspaper.

    He also told German broadcaster RTL: “Malaysia will be more difficult (than Melbourne).

    “In Sepang actually we are starting from scratch because of the high humidity and temperature – I doubt it will be below 35C.

    “In such circumstances, effective cooling of the power unit would indeed be a problem. We will have to make changes to the car to resolve the issue.”

    Lauda’s Mercedes colleague Toto Wolff agrees: “I think all the teams are seeking to create the most efficient cooling system.

    “Every test or race weekend has been more difficult than we expected, so it will be difficult to cope with the heat in Malaysia,” he admitted. (GMM)

    Source: Malaysian heat will test limits of new F1 power units | Grand Prix 247
    Malaysian grand prix practice 1 on March 28 10:00am.

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