Is WWIII inevitable?

**Jun aka Pekto** · November 26th, 2015 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by minicarph

Shotgun ko made in Turkey Akkar Karatay tactical . Dami dito nyan

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Turkish-made guns? I remember US aircrews dropping by Incirlik AB on their way home and buying dozens of guns in "The Alley." Then, they flew straight home to their bases in the US and bypassed US customs. The Turks are only too happy to sell them more guns.

incirlik,

**safeorigin** · November 27th, 2015 01:09 AM

not exactly improving its image...

News from The Associated Press

nor is it a good idea either to bite the hand that feeds...

Russia strikes back at Turkey with economic sanctions

**Jun aka Pekto** · November 27th, 2015 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by safeorigin

not exactly improving its image...

News from The Associated Press

nor is it a good idea either to bite the hand that feeds...

Russia strikes back at Turkey with economic sanctions

I doubt Turkey and Russia can hurt the other more economically. Both have trade offs. The drop in Russian tourists might have an effect. But, less Russian tourists might mean an increase in German tourists. There are still Germans who don't see eye to eye with the Russians and don't want to be seen with the latter.

As for the jailed journalists..... Oh well. That reminds me of Putin and Russia. Russia isn't exactly a bastion of press freedoms either. If Turkey was caught red-handed in Syria, the Russians were caught red-handed in the Ukraine. Turkey and Russia are so much alike with the exception of Turkey being a muslim country. The Russians should be proud. The Turks are acting exactly the same way the Russians did during the Cold War. Should bring a tear to their eyes.

Just search for all the shoot-downs Russia did in the decades prior.

**safeorigin** · November 27th, 2015 02:43 PM

Missile defense complex has been delivered to Syria.

tl;dr: Visual analysis reveals it is not S-400/S-300PMU-3 but S-300PMU-1/2.

the Transporter Erector Launcher (TEL) in use is an S-300PMU1 5P85SE

S-400/S-300 PMU-3 uses 5P85SM that is distinct because of the telescoping mast with 4 antenna elements

They also appear to be using LEMZ 96L6E/96L6-1 acquisition radar that has a radar coverage of 5-300 km. This is arguably the only S-400 component of the missile complex. This is a vast upgrade from the separate horizontal and height finding radars that can be still seen used, Kasta 2E1 and PRV-13. Russian literature suggest that the existing 67N6E with a range of 400 km can be used with the S-300 PMU series.

For point defense, they are using Pantsir-S1E

**safeorigin** · November 28th, 2015 03:01 PM

Commander of NORAD's point of view on the incident:

Top U.S. Air Defense Commander: Turkey?s Shootdown of Russian Jet ?Had to Be PRE-PLANNED? | Zero Hedge

The 40 second turkish F-16 entry to syrian airspace apparently coincides with Russia's narrative of what happened in their radar tracking: Chief Of Russian Air Force Accuses Turkey Of Coordinated Ambush On Downed Jet | Zero Hedge

**safeorigin** · November 28th, 2015 07:10 PM

Free Syrian Army a.k.a. "moderate rebels" using TOW against journalists.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7cc_1448553706

**safeorigin** · December 2nd, 2015 03:26 AM

speaking of submarines...

Caught On Tape: Russian Navy Ship Runs Into Turkish Sub In Dardanelles | Zero Hedge

**safeorigin** · December 3rd, 2015 01:35 AM

here's a detailed presentation of the evidences implicating turkey of supporting ISIS through oil trade.

Russia Presents Detailed Evidence Of ISIS-Turkey Oil Trade | Zero Hedge

enjoy the show.

**safeorigin** · December 3rd, 2015 04:33 PM

[IMG]www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user92183/imageroot/2015/11/SyriaDecoded_1.png[/IMG]

**safeorigin** · December 5th, 2015 03:28 PM

Bilal Erdogan having dinner with ISIS and Al Nusra leadership

From Tatzhit: This was forwarded to me by my friend "Rachael Lane" for consideration. I'm publishing it as received, with minor editing.
I'm by no means an expert on Turkey, so I can't independently verify whether those people are actually affiliated with ISIS/AL Nusra. I would appreciate if any experts can give their opinion in the comments.December 3rd, 2015.

“It’s Saturday night and I’m going to meet some friends at a restaurant, we’ll eat, drink and have good time. I meet up with these two at Ciğeristan Restaurant, owned by Kember from Ciğeris Brothers, every chance I get. We laugh and joke, tell stories and drink our beers. We smoke ‘em if we got them and if we’re lucky maybe see more of my friends. If I’m very lucky, maybe someone will snap a photo of me and my friends together.”
Said No Terrorist Ever.

Hollywood has nothing on these guys. They know the who, the what, and how to manipulate the media into thinking they are being persecuted while all the time going behind the media’s back and to getting away with terrorism, murder by the hundreds, and becoming ürber rich as the sell all the plunder, blood-sweat- and-tears, oil and artifacts they take from the people!

These images were sent to me by a friend who found them on this blog and sent with the following tweet; “This was posted on Turkish social media. Erdogans son Bilal, with leaders of the ISIS & Nasra.”

Turkey’s First Son enjoys dinner with leaders of ISIS - Fort Russ