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    Puro conspiracy na talaga.


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    the powers-that-be in london and dc saw the invasion as an opportunity to weaken russia with a prolonged war

    if zelensky negotiated with putin mawawala ung opportunity

    they told zelensky to keep fighting and they'll keep supplying weapons

    no need for wild imagination conspiracy thinking

    it's there in plain sight
    Last edited by uls; February 9th, 2023 at 09:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Puro conspiracy na talaga.


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    If only NATO kept its word that they will never move an inch to the east.......
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    the West couldn't let russia get away with annexation

    it will send a signal to the world that they can't enforce their post-WW2 rules-based international order

    so naging mission ng West to keep Ukraine in the fight hanggang mabawi lahat ng territory

    di pwede negotiation

    that's why after april 2022 wala na marinig na nego

    conspiracy theory ba?

    kayo na nagsabi it's the modern era -- hindi na pwede basta basta mag invade ng ibang bansa tulad ng ancient times

    that's what the US is trying to enforce

    does that sound like a conspiracy theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    If only NATO kept its word that they will never move an inch to the east.......
    but the official narrative is hindi NATO expansion ang nag trigger kay putin mag invade

    the official narrative is putin has imperial ambitions

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kayo na nagsabi it's the modern era -- hindi na pwede basta basta mag invade ng ibang bansa tulad ng ancient times

    that's what the US is trying to enforce

    does that sound like a conspiracy theory?
    Pero ang US pwede mag station ng troops sa Syria and siphon their oil

    Kaya pala hindi makapasok humanitarian aids sa Syria is because of the US sanctions. Bawal mag land mga airplanes in any Syrian airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    but the official narrative is hindi NATO expansion ang nag trigger kay putin mag invade

    the official narrative is putin has imperial ambitions
    Yan ang conspiracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Pero ang US pwede mag station ng troops sa Syria and siphon their oil

    Kaya pala hindi makapasok humanitarian aids sa Syria is because of the US sanctions. Bawal mag land mga airplanes in any Syrian airport.
    nabring up ko ung american occupation ng syria some days ago

    pero di daw pwede mag bring up ng examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post


    Yan ang conspiracy

    that's why western media keeps using the term "unprovoked war"

    coz they know it was provoked

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    common sense lang

    moscow is only 280 miles from the border of ukraine

    in the mid-2010s, ukraine gov't started to lean West

    too close for comfort na yan

    russia was ok with a neutral ukraine coz it would serve as a buffer state

    but if ukraine turns west, mawawala ung buffer

    masyado na malapit ang kalaban sa moscow

    common sense

    hindi conspiracy

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    Assuming arguend that Russia was provoked, tama ba ginawa ng Russia?

    When another country does not share your vision anymore or does not like how you run things? Invasion ba solution?

    Again you have to take into perspective US's past history when it comes to global participation. WW1 and WW2 they were reluctant combatants as mentioned before. Their leaders probably realized that they couldn't just sit idly by while other countries driven by an ideology different from theirs have so far affected them so much so that they were plunged into wars. That cannot be discounted lightly.

    Russia should have stopped after the move in Crimea. That was an easy sell of an act as the people in that region supported it. This invasion of Ukraine is not, the people, free Ukranians does not want to be aligned with Russia anymore.

    Solution is an invasion? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Nord Stream Sabotage Was CIA, US Navy Covert Op: Seymour Hersh Bombshell Prompts White House Response

    Nord Stream Sabotage Was CIA, US Navy Covert Op: Seymour Hersh Bombshell Prompts White House Response

    it's written by well-known American journalist Seymour Hersh pero hindi sa mainstream media nilabas

    problem for the US gov't Hersh is too well-known

    people take him seriously

    if it was written by a nobody the US gov't wouldn't care

    this is serious enough that the US gov't needed to respond

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Assuming arguend that Russia was provoked, tama ba ginawa ng Russia?

    When another country does not share your vision anymore or does not like how you run things? Invasion ba solution?

    Again you have to take into perspective US's past history when it comes to global participation. WW1 and WW2 they were reluctant combatants as mentioned before. Their leaders probably realized that they couldn't just sit idly by while other countries driven by an ideology different from theirs have so far affected them so much so that they were plunged into wars. That cannot be discounted lightly.

    Russia should have stopped after the move in Crimea. That was an easy sell of an act as the people in that region supported it. This invasion of Ukraine is not, the people, free Ukranians does not want to be aligned with Russia anymore.

    Solution is an invasion? Really?
    i am taking the US perspective am i not?

    kaya sabi ko the US will not let russia get away with the invasion

    kaya pinigilan nila ang negotiation

    the West will keep arming ukraine hanggang mapalayas ang russia

    kasi from the US perspective, the rules-based order they created after WW2 -- di na pwede ang land grab invasions

    modern era na eh

    hinayaan na nga nila ang russia sa annexation of crimea, pag hinayaan uli nila ang russia ngayon, mawawala ang credibility ng rules-based order nila

    that is why they keep arming ukraine to push back russia from their territory

    that's the Western perspective
    Last edited by uls; February 9th, 2023 at 12:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i am taking the US perspective am i not?

    kaya sabi ko the US will not let russia get away with the invasion

    kaya pinigilan nila ang negotiation

    the West will keep arming ukraine hanggang mapalayas ang russia

    kasi from the US perspective, the rules-based order they created after WW2 -- di na pwede ang land grab invasions

    di na nga sila nag respond dun sa annexation ng crimea, pag hinayaan uli nila makuha ng russia ang parts ng eastern ukraine, mawawala ang credibility ng rules-based order nila

    that is why they keep arming ukraine to push back russia from their territory

    that's the Western perspective
    Ang sagution mo si tama ba invasion na ginawa ng Russia?

    Sa dami-dami ng sinasabi mo kasi dito, you make it sound na tama ginawa ng Russia.

    Yun naman punto dito eh.

    Kahit dun sa isang thread, you make it seem na tama ginawa ng Russia kasi "provoked" sila.

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    oo sa pananaw ko russia was provoked

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    Kailangan pa ng MSM ng mg Chinese Weather Balloons para matabunan ang istoryang ito hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Kailangan pa ng MSM ng mg Chinese Weather Balloons para matabunan ang istoryang ito hehe
    kalat na ung sinulat ni Seymour Hersh

    kahit sabihin ng US fabricated nonsense yun wala maniniwala

    the fact that the US gov't even had to respond shows that kinabahan sila

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    Germany knows who did it but couldn't say it out loud

    takot sila sa amo nila

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    President Biden on Nord Stream 2 Pipeline if Russia Invades Ukraine: "We will bring an end to it."


    Nagkatotoo nga ang propesiya ni Biden!

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    anong propesiya

    the US gov't has been planning it before the invasion

    they hated those pipelines

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    So anytime now or what?

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    Western media almost every day for the past several years: "China is collapsing"

    antis:

    Any day now...

    Still holding their breath

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    anong propesiya

    the US gov't has been planning it before the invasion

    they hated those pipelines
    theres no doubt the americans are behind it..the big question now is..when and where will russia retaliate?

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