Turkish-made guns? I remember US aircrews dropping by Incirlik AB on their way home and buying dozens of guns in "The Alley." Then, they flew straight home to their bases in the US and bypassed US customs. The Turks are only too happy to sell them more guns.Originally Posted by minicarph
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November 26th, 2015 09:20 PM #221Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; November 26th, 2015 at 09:29 PM.
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November 27th, 2015 01:09 AM #222not exactly improving its image...
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nor is it a good idea either to bite the hand that feeds...
Russia strikes back at Turkey with economic sanctionsLast edited by safeorigin; November 27th, 2015 at 01:12 AM.
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November 27th, 2015 02:11 PM #223I doubt Turkey and Russia can hurt the other more economically. Both have trade offs. The drop in Russian tourists might have an effect. But, less Russian tourists might mean an increase in German tourists. There are still Germans who don't see eye to eye with the Russians and don't want to be seen with the latter. Originally Posted by safeorigin
As for the jailed journalists..... Oh well. That reminds me of Putin and Russia. Russia isn't exactly a bastion of press freedoms either. If Turkey was caught red-handed in Syria, the Russians were caught red-handed in the Ukraine. Turkey and Russia are so much alike with the exception of Turkey being a muslim country. The Russians should be proud. The Turks are acting exactly the same way the Russians did during the Cold War. Should bring a tear to their eyes.
Just search for all the shoot-downs Russia did in the decades prior.Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; November 27th, 2015 at 02:17 PM.
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November 27th, 2015 02:43 PM #224Missile defense complex has been delivered to Syria.
tl;dr: Visual analysis reveals it is not S-400/S-300PMU-3 but S-300PMU-1/2.
the Transporter Erector Launcher (TEL) in use is an S-300PMU1 5P85SE
S-400/S-300 PMU-3 uses 5P85SM that is distinct because of the telescoping mast with 4 antenna elements
They also appear to be using LEMZ 96L6E/96L6-1 acquisition radar that has a radar coverage of 5-300 km. This is arguably the only S-400 component of the missile complex. This is a vast upgrade from the separate horizontal and height finding radars that can be still seen used, Kasta 2E1 and PRV-13. Russian literature suggest that the existing 67N6E with a range of 400 km can be used with the S-300 PMU series.
For point defense, they are using Pantsir-S1E
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November 28th, 2015 03:01 PM #225Commander of NORAD's point of view on the incident:
Top U.S. Air Defense Commander: Turkey?s Shootdown of Russian Jet ?Had to Be PRE-PLANNED? | Zero Hedge
The 40 second turkish F-16 entry to syrian airspace apparently coincides with Russia's narrative of what happened in their radar tracking: Chief Of Russian Air Force Accuses Turkey Of Coordinated Ambush On Downed Jet | Zero HedgeLast edited by safeorigin; November 28th, 2015 at 03:06 PM.
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November 28th, 2015 07:10 PM #226Free Syrian Army a.k.a. "moderate rebels" using TOW against journalists.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7cc_1448553706
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December 2nd, 2015 03:26 AM #227speaking of submarines...
Caught On Tape: Russian Navy Ship Runs Into Turkish Sub In Dardanelles | Zero HedgeDamn, son! Where'd you find this?
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December 3rd, 2015 01:35 AM #228here's a detailed presentation of the evidences implicating turkey of supporting ISIS through oil trade.
Russia Presents Detailed Evidence Of ISIS-Turkey Oil Trade | Zero Hedge
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December 3rd, 2015 04:33 PM #229[IMG]www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user92183/imageroot/2015/11/SyriaDecoded_1.png[/IMG]
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December 5th, 2015 03:28 PM #230
Bilal Erdogan having dinner with ISIS and Al Nusra leadership
Turkey’s First Son enjoys dinner with leaders of ISIS - Fort RussFrom Tatzhit: This was forwarded to me by my friend "Rachael Lane" for consideration. I'm publishing it as received, with minor editing.
I'm by no means an expert on Turkey, so I can't independently verify whether those people are actually affiliated with ISIS/AL Nusra. I would appreciate if any experts can give their opinion in the comments.December 3rd, 2015.
“It’s Saturday night and I’m going to meet some friends at a restaurant, we’ll eat, drink and have good time. I meet up with these two at Ciğeristan Restaurant, owned by Kember from Ciğeris Brothers, every chance I get. We laugh and joke, tell stories and drink our beers. We smoke ‘em if we got them and if we’re lucky maybe see more of my friends. If I’m very lucky, maybe someone will snap a photo of me and my friends together.”
Said No Terrorist Ever.
Hollywood has nothing on these guys. They know the who, the what, and how to manipulate the media into thinking they are being persecuted while all the time going behind the media’s back and to getting away with terrorism, murder by the hundreds, and becoming ürber rich as the sell all the plunder, blood-sweat- and-tears, oil and artifacts they take from the people!
These images were sent to me by a friend who found them on this blog and sent with the following tweet; “This was posted on Turkish social media. Erdogans son Bilal, with leaders of the ISIS & Nasra.”Damn, son! Where'd you find this?
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December 8th, 2015 01:13 PM #231This just in: US coalition bombs Syrian Army compound. 3 Killed, 13 Injured. Seen as act of aggression.
lol, who isn't bombing ISIS again?Damn, son! Where'd you find this?
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December 8th, 2015 08:17 PM #232Breaking: B-237 "Rostov-on-Don" Kilo(Projekt 636.3) Class submarine equipped with 3M-14T Biryuza cruise missile is parked along the Syrian coast.
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December 8th, 2015 08:24 PM #233Was it Obama? I heard he have the same strategy again. Originally Posted by safeorigin
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December 9th, 2015 01:49 AM #234well, at least they're doing something a bit different this time. Originally Posted by ClaNker
Was it Obama? I heard he have the same strategy again.
if denying doesn't work, blame the Russians. hahaha
US Denies Bombing Assad's Forces, Blames Russia | Zero Hedge
As if 4 jets hitting the same target with 9 missiles is an accident...
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December 9th, 2015 02:03 AM #235In other news, Russia brings over heavy T-90 tanks to boost three Syrian warfronts
Looks like the Russians are going all-in. Anti-tank missiles provided by the US in ISIS controlled areas pose a definite problem so it's no brainer to use MBTs that are equipped with ERA.
War News, US Delivery of TOW Missiles to ISIS Seized by Iraq | Veterans TodayLast edited by safeorigin; December 9th, 2015 at 02:12 AM.
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December 13th, 2015 12:01 PM #236Is WWIII going to happen soon?
My theory is that WW3 is an economic war.
Starting December 16, expect the economic nuke to come crashing all over the place.Damn, son! Where'd you find this?
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December 13th, 2015 04:05 PM #238Dec 16 is the start of the winter solstice. So many things are attributed to the winter solstice like the Mayan 2012 countdown , the star of Bethlehem and the 3 kings, the birth of Christ, the polar shift etc
Dec. 16 is an ancient phenomenon
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December 14th, 2015 12:03 AM #239Clue: Originally Posted by dreamur
Stone Lion Capital Partners:
Alan Jay Mintz, CPA, a co-founder of Stone Lion Capital was Co-Head of the Distressed Debt and High Yield trading group at Bear Stearns
Gregory Augustine Hanley, a co-founder of Stone Lion Capital was Co-Head of the Distressed Debt and High Yield trading group at Bear Stearns
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December 15th, 2015 02:05 PM #240Oh no! Another lehman brothers collapse? Originally Posted by safeorigin
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