rollback!!!

[bongliza]

old stock -- nabili ng mahal ng oil companies

new stock (arriving palang) -- nabili ng mas mura ng oil companies

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old stock --nabibili natin ngayon sa gas stations

new stock (arriving palang) -- mabibili natin sa gas stations 1 or 2 months from now

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Rollback price of old stock coz world oil price bumaba?

Ka-o-order palang ng new stock diba?

di pa nga dumadating ung new stock diba?

baket i-ro-rollback ang presyo ng old stock?

brother ULS, baliktarin kaya natin ang logic mo? how 'bout if yung old stock nabili ng mura?

[Gerbo]

Taas price....bilis.
Baba...........bagal.

Only one reason....maximize profits...check the books of these oil companies. They are the most profitable business around. The Big 3 is always in the top 20 in the Philippines.

Greed or avarice is one of the 7 cardinal sins because it can can be limitless.

[karlbo]

tanggalin ng gobyerno ang tax na pinapataw sa gasolina. panigurado bababa yan..

ilagay nila sa mga vice products like cigarettes and liquors. wag sa gasoline as a basic commodity..

bisyo maitatawag and mga sigarilyo at alak. dun nila ipataw yung malaking tax kung gusto nila. wag sa gasolina, oils, diesel etc.. araw araw ginagamit ito ng lahat for transportation so bakit ayaw nila gawin ito?

to add it up. napaka daling sabihin na ibaba ang presyo pag bumaba ang crude price sa market. kung ganun lang naman kadali yun eh di sana madalas nag bababa ng presyo ang big 3...

[karlbo]

sakin naman walang car choke.. parang o talagang kulang yung kinakarga nila.. before kasi when my gasoline gauge in on 3/4 level i fillup 500 petot so balik ulit sa full level mahal pa gas nun mga 8 liter lang.. then last week i fillup sa unioil (3/4 yung level sa gauge ko) sa may airport road P500 hindi pa umabot sa full level pero more 10 liters yung na refill.. their something wrong... may daya yung pump station na yan....

factors affecting this might be.

1. price
2. time of filling up to gas stations. oil dense. etc..
3. its either you use half press or full press sa nozzle. it differs sometimes.


all pumps are calibrated everyday. well, i think it depends.. alam naman natin na may mangilan ngilan na lumulusot di ba? ..

[niky]

We can't blame people for having bad sentiments against the big three. In the first place, sila naman ang nag open ng argument na tuwing tataas ang world oil prices, dapat din sumabay sila para di sila malugi. Now that the the people are following the same argument when world crude prices have dramatically gone done, these oil companies balk and even point out that it is not only the world prices that are dictating local prices but there are "other" factors to consider.

I'm still surprised that nobody else here was buying gasoline during the time of the OPSF. And nobody remembers that under OPSF, when fuel prices went up, it HURT. When oil prices skyrocketed early this year, local fuel companies raised prices by 50c to 1 peso per week instead of raising it 10-15 pesos right away... under OPSF, prices stayed low until the OPSF was depleted, then they went up a lot, all at once.

O, nagbaba na rin ng presyo ng diesel ang Chevron at Shell today(?)... Approx P45/L na rin katulad ng Petron a day before...... De-regulation?.... Nakikiusap pa ang gobyerno at taong bayan sa kanila...

And under the OPSF, transport groups would protest to the government to allow oil companies to lower prices, prices which stayed high to regenerate the OPSF.

I can't believe the children of the same people who protested the OPSF are now angling for government to execute price controls on gasoline again. The insanity...

Sa news, narinig ko na noong $67/barrel few years back, P13/L lang ang diesel.....

Yeah. Way back in the 80's, when it was still 20 pesos to a dollar. I can't even remember the last time I paid less than 25 pesos for diesel.

if you want a perspective on oil and gasoline prices, you can simply go down to the National Library and pull up a selection of newspapers from the past thirty years... the transport groups have complained about the way gasoline is priced for decades... whether it's privately driven or government controlled, the effect is still the same... we're always paying too much.

My commutes used to cost just a hundred bucks... now I'm paying nearly 500 bucks for the same distance... and even if I use LPG, it's still a 300 peso trip. It sucks, but all the hand-wringing, fist-waving and rock-throwing ain't going to move the guys who ultimately decide how much gasoline is worth... OPEC.

The only way to hurt OPEC? Stop buying gasoline. And thanks to the stock market crash... that's what a lot of people are doing. Want 30 peso gasoline? Wait another few months... it's coming...

[jpdm]

Ang hirap gawin ito ng oil companies....

to add it up. napaka daling sabihin na ibaba ang presyo pag bumaba ang crude price sa market. kung ganun lang naman kadali yun eh di sana madalas nag bababa ng presyo ang big 3...

Mas madalas at madaling gawin nito ng oil companies....

napakadaling sabihin na itaas ang presyo pag tumataas ang crude price sa market. kung ganun lang naman kadali eh di sana madalas nagtataas ng presyo ang big three...

madalas nga e. sobrang bilis pa. tawag nila under recoveries...nalulugi...magsasara na....parang wala pang nagsarang oil firm dito sa pinas...

[uls]

brother ULS, baliktarin kaya natin ang logic mo? how 'bout if yung old stock nabili ng mura?

o sige brother bongliza

old stock -- nabili ng mura (kasalukuyan binebenta, di pa nauubos)

new stock -- nabili ng mahal (arriving palang)

Ano ang dapat gawin?

tataasan mo dapat ang presyo ng old stock mo para mabawi mo ang itinaas na presyo ng new stock.

that's business.

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De Castro said that if the small firms which are merely trading oil and have no refineries can afford to cut prices by at least P2, with more reason the big oil companies who import in bulk and have oil refineries here can roll back prices.

The big oil companies buy crude oil from the middle east. Then irerefine pa.

the small players buy finished products from refiners in China and other asian countries.

sino masmababa ang cost?

De Castro is running for president.

[[archie]]

hayyyyyy may bago na naman????? :bwahaha:

simple lang yan... kung ayaw niyo ng patakaran ng isang company, then dont buy from them... yun na yun.

yung mga transport group ganon din naman ha? yung nagtaasan yung oil prices, biglang gusto ng ng increase sa pasahe... binigay ng govenment.. tapos ngayon na ang laki na ng binaba ng oil, LUGI pa rin sila???

teka teka, baka employee rin ako ng big 3???? :bwahaha:

[karlbo]

hayyyyyy may bago na naman????? :bwahaha:

simple lang yan... kung ayaw niyo ng patakaran ng isang company, then dont buy from them... yun na yun.

yung mga transport group ganon din naman ha? yung nagtaasan yung oil prices, biglang gusto ng ng increase sa pasahe... binigay ng govenment.. tapos ngayon na ang laki na ng binaba ng oil, LUGI pa rin sila???

teka teka, baka employee rin ako ng big 3???? :bwahaha:

hehehe tama.. kung di na maatim yung taas ng oil price then as per niky nga shift to lpg. or commute.. yun lang naman yun eh..

mataas na nga ang prices ngayon anu nalang ba ang hindi tumataas? di ba sahod? hahaha..

well, ganun talaga buhay...

bakit ako di niyo ko sinasabihan na empleyado ng big three?

[karlbo]

Tama ka.

You and niky should start doing it...



hmmm...let me guest....cge hindi ka empleyado...pero mukhang suporter ka ng big three...


a...alam ko na....may ari ka ng caltex station na may plus carwash sa plaridel.....

ahahaha..

naka lpg na nga kami ni niky! hahaha..

almost 2k one full tank. 50liters hahaha.. kala mo ahh..

inaantay nalang ang opening ng lpg station sa Bulacan. (1st ever) haha

[iho250]

oil peaked at $147, not $180. Oil hasnt reached $180. yet.

check peso dollar exchange rates last year, early this year, and recently.

i stand corrected....dala lang ng bugso ng damdamin...

[jpdm]

i hope a big one time role back will come in a few weeks so that people will enjoy somehow cheaper gas prices...

[karlbo]

i hope a big one time role back will come in a few weeks so that people will enjoy somehow cheaper gas prices...

sino bang may ayaw ng rollback.. lahat naman tayo gusto mababa ang mga presyo ng bilihin di ba?

hehehe..

walang pikunan ha.. ayus lang yan.. kanya kanyang opinion naman dito eh..

[Gen. Miting]

hehehe ... i don't believe that pareng *uls works in an oil company. he is just expressing his own sentiments on what kind of people in the world market we are dealing with here.

in a way, he is very truthful talaga on what will happen next bec. all we have to do is to put ourselves in the shoes of these self-preserving oil cartels and and yun mga nasa payroll nila like some people in the media as well as some officials in the govt. you can't talk any sense to a profiting person, no matter how principled you are

yan ang talagang problema. my problem lang with pareng *uls, to him -> we have to accept it as fact that those people will only act upon their own personal selfish interests and we should accept that we will alway be screwed for the rest of our lives ...

i believe otherwise. kahit na sila pa na sa oil business ang pinakayaman, pinakama-abilidad when it comes to manipulating us to get their profits. no amount of scheming will keep them to the top. things will even itself out no matter what ...

kung tuusin, takot talaga ang mga oil companies ngaun that's why they're trying to keep the prices artificially high. they know that demand is low and demand will get lower and lower as people find alternative ways to go about their daily lives.

sa presyo pa lang ng diesel, kitang-kita na eh. ang taas pa din ng diesel considering even diesel dropped in the world market. why bec. diesel is the backbone of our economy. eto na lang ang may demand na hindi maiwasan, from delivery of goods to public transpo and services. kaya hindi pinapababa, kasi dun sila bumabawi. and I believe the govt. has something to do with this also... perhaps, the govt. is also scared of the low demand on energy, hence hindi nila ma-meet your E-Vat on oil earnings nila.

or siguro some in the govt. are scared of losing OFW money. hindi naman kaila na nilagay ng gobyerno (thru govt. ngo's and other OFW orgs) ang OFW money mostly investments sa public transpo. syempre pag bumagsak ang energy, bagsak din pasada.


balig-baligtarin mo, ang tingin talaga sa'tin ng mga ito, milking cow.

the only way to fight back is to yun nga, be efficient. so efficient, that these people will just find alternative means to get their money back kasi wala na sila mapapala sa'tin

[jpdm]

.....all we have to do is to put ourselves in the shoes of these self-preserving oil cartels and and yun mga nasa payroll nila like some people in the media as well as some officials in the govt.

Media at government lang ba?

you can't talk any sense to a profiting person, no matter how principled you are.....

Definitely.

.....we have to accept it as fact that those people will only act upon their own personal selfish interests and we should accept that we will alway be screwed for the rest of our lives ...

...i believe otherwise. kahit na sila pa na sa oil business ang pinakayaman, pinakama-abilidad when it comes to manipulating us to get their profits. no amount of scheming will keep them to the top. things will even itself out no matter what ...

Agree here.

kung tuusin, takot talaga ang mga oil companies ngaun that's why they're trying to keep the prices artificially high. they know that demand is low and demand will get lower and lower as people find alternative ways to go about their daily lives.

Its alright for them to earn profit.

Thats business.

But earning humongous profit or engage in profiteering, its treason, economic sabotage.

[True Faith]

Siguro, a big one time roll back will do...

[karlbo]

Siguro, a big one time roll back will do...

i think ayus na ako sa unting unting pag baba.. kesa naman mag one time big time rollback tayo sa oil prices tapos babawiaan tayo every week ng pagtaas..

slow but surely siguro.. pero im sure, pababa na trend ngayon eh. stable na naman yung price sa market. so, lets just hope for the best.

so kung di talaga matiis yung pagtaas ng presyo ng gasolina and diesel, ,meron pa rin naman other alternatives like small oil entrep and LPG. hehe

Kita kits sa sabado mga ka tsikot!!!!

[uls]

Oil companies know how wild the price swings in the global market can be.

One day it can be up more than $5, next day down more than $5.

Di sila maka rollback ng malaki coz baka maipit sila sa biglang pag taas.

Pero syempre walang kwenta ang explanation na ito para sa mga haters.

[[archie]]

tama ka diyan sir uls, kung sarado na utak sa explanation... theres no sense kaya ako titigil na ko...

kung explain ka tapos wala na mahirit kasi alam nila tama, iba na hirit, out of this world idea pa. kasama ka na bigla sa big 3 as an investor, support, or employee. :bwahaha:

pero ito last na promise...

simple lang naman yan eh, the idea is maraming variables that will come into play when buying crude, unrefined oil. there is always the cost of operations, marketing, economic conditions, and of course the international price of oil. ganyan lang naman... kung nagtaas at baba yung oil companies ng price of gas every time gummalaw price ng crude oil then minimum dati $5-$10 and translate that to peso (assuming 45 per $ para madali math) PHP 225 - 450 per day? ano sa tingin niyo? mas galit kayo di ba? yan and simple equation na plengkera style. :bwahaha:

be realistic na lang and understand that the oil companies are just trying to keep their head above water and not loose investors. kasi kung mawalan ng investors, mawawalan din tayo ng gas na bibilin...

[XTO]

kung bababa ng tuloy tuloy mas maige 'la naman tayo magagawa e but personally kung saan pinakamababa ang pump price dun ako regardless kung big 3 ba siya or not wag lang mababa ang lugar baka tubig maikarga sa kin eh.

so far na-type-an ko UNIOIL Pure Diesel ah. macho ingay at ugong niya at pinaka mababa at 43.97/li. ngayon lang ako sumubok ng small players, next to Flying V. imported pa. due to check is the FC na malalaman ko next fill up.