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    #2211
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Ahh barat siguro mag-bid ang SM Group, it is well known in the business community na ganyan sila
    Yes terms and conditions often favors the huge company so you better think twice and look elsewhere to fund your mall construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    yan nag mahirap pag may tsimis/rumor na mag close ang bank, baka magka bank run
    Yes, right now malls and establishment slowly opening and recovering I hope this will continue to help keep the economy running.

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    RE the article posted by jut703

    consistent with what i'm saying this gov't implemented the longest and most crippling lockdown in the world

    maaga palang i knew it will kill the economy

    the gov't freaking stopped that economy in its tracks

    it gave the economy a heart attack

    i've been posting about the negative effects of the lockdown before anyone

    i was concerned about other people's problems -- like the stability of banks

    coz sigurado madami di makakabayad ng utang

    OA daw ako o nalulugi daw kami kaya gusto ko ma-lift ang lockdown

    well?

    now that the dust has settled what do guys you see?

    now you're talking about bank failures?

    Where were you guys 30 to 60 days ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    RE the article posted by jut703

    consistent with what i'm saying this gov't implemented the longest and most crippling lockdown in the world
    The government implemented the longest and most crippling lockdown FOR NOTHING.

    A lockdown alone does not help much. You need to have a lockdown EARLY (we were a month late). You need to follow up it up with aggressive CONTACT TRACING, paired with MASS TESTING (targeted, if you want to call it that).

    So we both have a dead economy and an ever-growing wave of infection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    The government implemented the longest and most crippling lockdown FOR NOTHING.

    A lockdown alone does not help much. You need to have a lockdown EARLY (we were a month late). You need to follow up it up with aggressive CONTACT TRACING, paired with MASS TESTING (targeted, if you want to call it that).

    So we both have a dead economy and an ever-growing wave of infection.

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    it was a freaking brute force lockdown

    brute force ang ginamit hindi brains

    something what cavemen would do

    coz there aren't people competent enough to implement an intelligent targeted lockdown

    large conventional bomb compared to a smart bomb

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it was a freaking brute force lockdown

    brute force ang ginamit hindi brains

    something what cavemen would do

    coz there aren't people competent enough to implement an intelligent targeted lockdown

    large conventional bomb compared to a smart bomb
    Whoever said bright minds are placed in government posts? Men/women are posted for the favors and loyalty they bring.


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    #2217
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Whoever said bright minds are placed in government posts? Men/women are posted for the favors and loyalty they bring.


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    one bright mind placed in a sea of less-than-mediocre minds, will likely get swallowed up and drown, never to be seen again.
    what has to be done, is to have many like-minded bright minds thrown into the sea as a group. that way, they can cooperate with each other and devise a flotation device, and start building a CVN from it.

    hey!
    this is a generic statement.
    i'm not pointing to any particular office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it was a freaking brute force lockdown

    brute force ang ginamit hindi brains

    something what cavemen would do

    coz there aren't people competent enough to implement an intelligent targeted lockdown

    large conventional bomb compared to a smart bomb
    Brute force lockdown is barely better than no lockdown. Disadavantage is that a brute force lockdown has dire economic consequences.

    It wasn't a choice between healthcare and economy. Our government screwed up on both.

    Either we do a lockdown right or we don't do it at all. We're moving to option 2 now (i.e. opening up the economy even if COVID has still not been managed).

    Too bad we already had 3 months of economic setbacks.

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    #2219
    Imho another thing that is sorely lacking now that should have been there from the start is a CLEAR AND SUSTAINED INFORMATION DRIVE on how to go about what should be the new normal. Blast that protocol every hour on all channels so it gets drilled down to the stubbornest of brains until following it becomes second nature.

    From what I see every time I go outside, a lot of people are still not wearing masks, removing them in public, wearing them with their noses out, touching their faces and social distancing is a token <1 meter.

    If we can't expect satisfactory contact tracing and mass testing, can we at least expect that from this government?

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    #2220
    i'd describe it as typical pinoy way of doing things

    always reactive never proactive

    pag nandito na ang problema tsaka hanapan ng solusyon

    kung ano ang ugali ng tao ganyan din ang gobyerno

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