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View Poll Results: Senate's verdict on CJ

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    Belated happy mother account day corona!

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    sabi pa ni ombudswoman when she first learn of these accounts sabi daw niya what is he a money changer? Hahaha

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    lumalaban pa....."it's a hoax"

    sabi ni CJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    lumalaban pa....."it's a hoax"

    sabi ni CJ.

    tulad daw ito ng LRA hoax daw na from 45 properties eh naging 5 properties. abangan na lang natin.......

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    Kung totoo yung mga dollars account na iyan, magresign na lang sana siya, at makipag deal na lang na hwag na siyang imbestigahan at kasuhan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus
    Kung totoo yung mga dollars account na iyan, magresign na lang sana siya, at makipag deal na lang na hwag na siyang imbestigahan at kasuhan...
    hinde pwede yan! Ano ganun ganun na Lang? resign Tapos wala na lahat? Wala na rin graceful exit, too late for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    hinde pwede yan! Ano ganun ganun na Lang? resign Tapos wala na lahat? Wala na rin graceful exit, too late for that
    Tagal kasi ng prosseso e, at kung natapos ang lahat, sana ma impeached

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    tindi ng presentation ni conchita. na corner si corona dito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    tindi ng presentation ni conchita. na corner si corona dito.
    kaya nga pinagreresign na ni corona

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    Ayaw sumuko. Kagaya daw LRA pronouncement ng 45 properties, tapos lima lang pala. Si Morales daw ang dapat mag-resign dahil naniwala agad...

    MANILA, Philippine - Impeached Chief Justice Renato Corona on Monday dismissed Ombudsman Conchita Carpio-Morales' presentation before the Senate impeachment court as a "lantern of lies," saying he was ready to debunk all her claims.

    Corona also urged the Ombudsman, his former colleague at the Supreme Court, to step down from her post after the chief justice proves that all her presentations are wrong.

    “The number of accounts alone is at best ridiculous. Her PowerPoint diagram is a lantern of lies which only messed up her presentation, contrary to what some believe now as damning evidence,” Corona said in a statement.

    “Either she does not know what she is talking about, or is purposely misleading the Impeachment Court and the public. Is she even privy to how the AMLC [Anti-Money Laundering Council] arrived at the bloated numbers?” he added.

    He said that his camp would be ready to "debunk all" of the Ombudsman's "bloated numbers."

    "And once she is proven wrong, I urge her to immediately resign from her post for allowing herself to be used by this Administration and making a laughingstock of ‘government auditing'."

    But Corona said the allegations were similar to the "LRA hoax." He was referring to the Land Registration Authority's computer-generated data that showed that the chief justice had 45 properties.

    This was later debunked by Corona's defense team saying the chief justice only had five properties as stated in his Statement of Assets, Liabilities, and Net Worth.

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    ang magiging highlight sa senate impeachment court ay ang Q&A portion ng mga senator judges kay corona.

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    may bago......

    "lantern of lies!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    "lantern of lies!"

    "pinapaliwanag" na siya'y [CJ] hindi nagsasabi ng totoo.

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    quiet ata si atty manikis ah........

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    The one who made the call to put the Ombudsman on the witness stand may have just inadvertently sunk the CJ. I mean, for trial lawyers, it's a rule that you don't put a witness on the stand or ask a witness questions unless you already know what he or she intends to say.

    I'm pretty sure Cuevas is giving the third degree to his co counsels now, especially Judd Roy (law dean, kuno).
    Last edited by Altis6453; May 15th, 2012 at 08:01 AM.

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    Section 26. Inquiries. —

    (1) The Office of the Ombudsman shall inquire into acts or omissions of a public officer, employee, office or agency which, from the reports or complaints it has received, the Ombudsman or his Deputies consider to be:

    (a) contrary to law or regulation;

    (b) unreasonable, unfair, oppressive, irregular or inconsistent with the general course of the operations and functions of a public officer, employee, office or agency;

    (c) an error in the application or interpretation of law, rules or regulations, or a gross or palpable error in the appreciation of facts;

    (d) based on improper motives or corrupt considerations;

    (e) unclear or inadequately explained when reasons should have been revealed; or

    (f) inefficient performed or otherwise objectionable.

    (2) The Officer of the Ombudsman shall receive complaints from any source in whatever form concerning an official act or omission.t shall act on the complaint immediately and if it finds the same entirely baseless, it shall dismiss the same and inform the complainant of such dismissal citing the reasons therefor.f it finds a reasonable ground to investigate further, it shall first furnish the respondent public officer or employee with a summary of the complaint and require him to submit a written answer within seventy-two (72) hours from receipt thereof.f the answer is found satisfactory, it shall dismiss the case.

    (3) When the complaint consists in delay or refusal to perform a duty required by law, or when urgent action is necessary to protect or preserve the rights of the complainant, the Office of the Ombudsman shall take steps or measures and issue such orders directing the officer, employee, office or agency concerned to:

    (a) expedite the performance of duty;

    (b) cease or desist from the performance of a prejudicial act;

    (c) correct the omission;

    (d) explain fully the administrative act in question; or

    (e) take any other steps as may be necessary under the circumstances to protect and preserve the rights of the complainant.

    (4) Any delay or refusal to comply with the referral or directive of the Ombudsman or any of his Deputies, shall constitute a ground for administrative disciplinary action against the officer or employee to whom it was addressed.
    for reference lang ... para kay cuevas ... baka sakali tsikoteer sya

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by kinyo

    for reference lang ... para kay cuevas ... baka sakali tsikoteer sya
    I raise a technical issue... Which may be irrelevant sa casi ni CJ... But relevant to us all...

    Granted na may constitutional basis si Ombudsman to do her work investigating CJ... Relevant ba malaman kung nauna ba nirequest ng Ombudsman from AMLAC yung records? Or was it AMLAC "volunteering" the records?

    kay CJ malamang it wont matter sa botohan... But for us private citizens... Who may happen to have some money....


    Lesson: don't cross the powers that be...

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    Corona-defense-in-shambles

    i guess the trial regained its ratings

    i like seeing brenda in overdosed condition ... so peaceful, she was applauded


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    Quote Originally Posted by wowiesy View Post
    I raise a technical issue... Which may be irrelevant sa casi ni CJ... But relevant to us all...

    Granted na may constitutional basis si Ombudsman to do her work investigating CJ... Relevant ba malaman kung nauna ba nirequest ng Ombudsman from AMLAC yung records? Or was it AMLAC "volunteering" the records?

    kay CJ malamang it wont matter sa botohan... But for us private citizens... Who may happen to have some money....


    Lesson: don't cross the powers that be...
    The Ombudsman can investigate any goverment official on a mere "report". The law specifically says that the AMLAC may only investigate on a court order. The ombudsman however counters it may request 'assistance' from any goverment agency including AMLAC. Which takes precedent, the court order or the request 'assistance? Should the Ombudsman have gotten a court order first?

    Hopefully the BIR can't do the same to us lower citizens with such assistance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto

    The Ombudsman can investigate any goverment official on a mere "report". The law specifically says that the AMLAC may only investigate on a court order. The ombudsman however counters it may request 'assistance' from any goverment agency including AMLAC. Which takes precedent, the court order or the request 'assistance? Should the Ombudsman have gotten a court order first?

    Hopefully the BIR can't do the same to us lower citizens with such assistance...
    As you've said the law mandate that office of the ombudsman can investigate on mere suspicion or report so we don't need to worry that BIR can do the same to us since they don't have the same mandate as the ombudsman...

    Saka I don't think AMLC illegally obtained the documents, can AMLC even obtain bank documents illegally, eh banks reports to them suspicious or P500k and more deposits...

Impeachment against CJ Corona..