Digong, The President

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Let the US do it alone. They have the most modern and powerful navy in the world. The Philippines should just stay out of the way. We will just take care of our own problems like the NPA and the Abus.

If a war breaks out, I see that it's a win win situation.

1) If the U.S. manages to win the war and drive out the Chinese out of the South China Sea with all its installation and airstrips bombed, then, who is going to benefit from it?

2) If the US loses the war, it's back to where it was before. The Philippines will still enjoy peace and good diplomatic relationship from both countries. Nothing personal.

But, it's going to be a difficult war. It will be very different from WW2. Weapons are just too advanced. But, it will be a show because what if the US will use exotic weapons like the railgun and laser weapons? Will we be seeing the F-22 and F-35A in action? What about China? Will they have something up their sleeve?

And, not forgetting mother Russia. What if they join in? I don't think US will be alone in this. Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea will join in the fray.

Take selfie and post because the world is going to go crazy again! LOL!

I'll just take my stuff and migrate somewhere else. Lmao!

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"To support our President, to secure our nation and to ensure the future of all Filipinos, it must be believed that indeed there are those of us who are prepared to make the supreme sacrifice for our country, especially when called upon."

- Albert Del Rosario

who is prepared here to make that supreme sacrifice?

At least in PDigong's term we are assured we will not be in any war so we can relax for the next 4 years.

Then when the new constitution gets ratified we will see how long we can further relax.

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[barako ba ma]

Inaanay na ang pilipinas. Busy sa kabaklaan.

Padala natin and mga bading sa laban, bigyan ng maraming cuticle pushers at nippers. Hindi handa ang mga intsik sa ganitong labanan.��

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Wala naman war na mangyayari, Si dutiti lang nagsasabi niyang.

Nagpapalusot lang yan dahil duwag siya.

He's conditioning the mind of morons na kaya wala siyang ginagawa ayaw niya kuno ng giyera. [emoji23]

Gusot ng china mag giyera? I highly doubt it. I'm talking at the moment, if they are stupid enough to go to war with the superpower. They will be obliterated
Completely.

It's like his "war on drugs" hyped lang niya to justify yun thirst for blood niyan.


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4) [FICTION] China’s claim of first discovery of Scarborough shoal under the Yuan Dynasty in the 13th century.

China claims it has first discovered Scarborough in the 13th century under the Yuan Dynasty. The Yuan Dynasty however, was established by Kublai Khan of the Mongol Empire which had conquered China.


“If Bajo de Masinloc was indeed acquired by virtue of discovery, then such discovery could only be in the name of the sovereign, the Mongol Empire. Perhaps it should therefore be claimed by the remnant of the Mongol Empire, which is Mongolia, not China,” Batongbacal said.

The other side will also say "FICTION" on Mr. Jay Batongbacal's theory.

Let's hear the Taiwanese side:

"On April 19, the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs published a paper titled Philippine position on Bajo de Masinloc and the waters within its vicinity. The paper is an official presentation of the legal arguments by which the Philippines seeks to prove its ownership of the Scarborough Shoal, also known in Taiwan and China as Huangyan Island (黃岩島), but a close examination of these arguments reveals they do not stand under scrutiny.

First, the paper states that the Philippines’ claim over the Scarborough Shoal is not based on the Treaty of Paris between Spain and the US, or on the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone (EEZ) as defined by the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). Nor is it based on the principle of proximity, but rather, on the international legal principles of effective exercise of jurisdiction and occupation.

The paper gives as an example the Island of Palmas case, in which an international court ruled that the island belonged to the Netherlands, not the US, based on effective exercise of jurisdiction, although the island may have been discovered by Spain and lies within an area ceded to the US under the Treaty of Paris.

Drawing a parallel with the Scarborough Shoal, the paper says: “In the case of Bajo de Masinloc, the Philippines has exercised both effective occupation and effective jurisdiction over Bajo de Masinloc since its independence.”

The Philippines has apparently abandoned its previous position that its ownership of the Scarborough Shoal or the Spratly Islands (Nansha Islands, 南沙島) was based on the principle of proximity and on its EEZ under the UNCLOS, and is instead basing its claim on the principle of effective exercise of jurisdiction.

The paper cites various maps to prove that the Philippines owns the Scarborough Shoal. It says the Carta Hydrographica y Chorographica de las Yslas Filipinas, published in 1734 by Father Pedro Murillo Velarde, includes the shoal as part of the province of Zambales.

In 1792, the Alejandro Malaspina expedition drew a similar map which showed the route of the Malaspina expedition to and around the shoal and was reproduced in the Atlas of the 1939 Philippine Census. The paper also says that the Mapa General, Islas Filipinas, Observatorio de Manila, published in 1990 by the US Coast and Geodetic Survey, also includes the Scarborough Shoal as part of the Philippines.

None of these maps proves that the shoal belongs to the Philippines.

The Mapa General, Islas Filipinas, Observatorio de Manila was first published in 1899, and it does not specify that the shoal belongs to the Philippines. If all land shown on the map belonged to the Philippines, why would the southern part of Taiwan be shown at the top and part of Borneo at the bottom? Does this mean these places belong to the Philippines too? It is unacceptable for the Philippines to try to confuse the issue by making false claims.

The paper further states that the Philippines raised its flag and built a lighthouse on the shoal in 1965, reporting it to the International Maritime Organization for publication in its List of Lights. The paper says that then-Philippine congressmen Roque Ablan and Jose Yap raised another national flag on the shoal in 1997.

At present, there is no lighthouse on the shoal, nor is there any Philippine flag flying there. There are no buildings or other structures on it that show the Philippines ever exercised effective jurisdiction over it.

The paper then criticizes China’s historical claim over the Scarborough Shoal. It says that a historical claim does not equal a historical title in international law. A historical claim on its own is not a sufficient basis for acquiring a historical title, and demonstrating long usage is also not enough.

It says that such usage must be open, continuous and acquiesced to by other states. It says that other states’ silence about a claim is not acquiescence under international law, and that acquiescence must be affirmative such that other states recognize the claim as a right on the part of the claimant and agree that other states have a duty to respect it. The paper concludes that the international community has never acquiesced to China’s historical claim.

Taiwanese and Chinese fishermen have long made use of the shoal and the waters around it. Other nearby countries may have never discovered the shoal, in which case there can be no question of the usage of it being open and acquiesced to by other states.

Besides, until recently, the shoal and its adjacent waters had never been an area of contention among surrounding countries. When the Republic of China (ROC) announced the inclusion of the Macclesfield Bank (Zhongsha Islands, 中沙群島) in its territory in 1947, the Philippines did not voice opposition. At the time, many members of the international community recognized the islands belonged to the ROC. Many maps around the world can be held up as evidence that they do belong to the ROC.

On Sept. 2, 1956, and in February 1957, the US was granted permission by the ROC to carry out topographical surveys around the Scarborough Shoal, the Macclesfield Bank and other areas.

It was not until the mid-1960s that the Philippines made its own claim to the shoal, prompted by the idea that there could be oil and natural gas reserves in the area. So there is some doubt about the Philippines’ motive for staking a claim.

With relation to the Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands, no matter what kind of legal claim the Philippines puts forward, it cannot go beyond the territories included in the Treaty of Paris.

The Treaty of Paris is internationally recognized and has long been implemented in the South China Sea. If the Philippines appropriates the Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands on the pretext of “effective jurisdiction,” it will be guilty of the flagrant occupation of another country’s territory.

Chen Hurng-yu is a professor in the Graduate Institute of Asian Studies at Tamkang University."

Scarborough Shoal not Philippines’ - Taipei Times

[ClaNker]

Galing ng sympathizer ng China dito, walang sinabi si Justice Carpio.

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[uls]

masyado anti-du30 anti-china pro-kano pro-delaw dito

kailangan may contrarian view

bawal ba?

[ClaNker]

Wala naman war na mangyayari, Si dutiti lang nagsasabi niyang.

Nagpapalusot lang yan dahil duwag siya.

He's conditioning the mind of morons na kaya wala siyang ginagawa ayaw niya kuno ng giyera. [emoji23]

Gusot ng china mag giyera? I highly doubt it. I'm talking at the moment, if they are stupid enough to go to war with the superpower. They will be obliterated
Completely.

It's like his "war on drugs" hyped lang niya to justify yun thirst for blood niyan.


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China is preparing war against US daw. Abay nakalimutan ang kapitbahay na Taiwan, South Korea, at Japan na allies na US. Sama mo na Australia.

Lubog ang Chinese Navy at di makaka lusot ang Chinese missiles.

Di bale na consider naman daw lahat ng China yan. Ubod ng galing ng China at ni Dutiti kaya.

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[ClaNker]

Ayan nanaman ang delawan daw. Di lang hihimod sa tumbong ni dutiti delawan agad.

Sama na natin ang oligarch. Daming bigtime dito sa tsikot, mga delawang oligarch. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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The other side will also say "FICTION" on Mr. Jay Batongbacal's theory.

Chen Hurng-yu is a professor in the Graduate Institute of Asian Studies at Tamkang University."

Scarborough Shoal not Philippines’ - Taipei Times

Ok, so based from the Chinaman intrerpretation Ph cannot claim the reef which is beyond China's EEZ and within Ph EEZ and you do believe the Chinaman?

And yes, Borneo belongs to Ph not untill your Poon's idol the late dictator Marcos f*cked up with the Jabidah Masacre resulting to more insurgency.

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Taiwan, South Korea, at Japan na allies na US. Sama mo na Australia.

ang tanga pala ng china di nila naisip may kakampi ang US dito sa region

sobra tanga ng china

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buti pa mga vietnamese, patriotic sila. Kahit print lang ng 9-dash line sa tshirt ng mga chinese tourist, apektado na sila.

dito, mismong mga pilipino pa ang nagtatanggol sa mga magnanakaw.

baka sabihin fake, kaya ito yung links:
Chinese tourists arriving in Vietnam ordered to take off their nine-dash line t-shirts – Shanghaiist
Anger in Vietnam after Chinese tourists are spotted in T-shirts with controversial South China Sea territory map | South China Morning Post
Chinese Tourists Fuel Tension in Vietnam
Vietnam warns travel firms following the case of Chinese tourists wearing controversial T-shirts - Tours - Travel - Hanoi Times

A group of Chinese tourists arriving in Vietnam earlier this week were asked by immigration authorities to remove their shirts — which were printed with a map of China that included the infamous nine-dash line.

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China isn't preparing for war with the US

it's only my imagination

they put surface-to-air missiles and anti-ship missiles and radar and jammers and whatever hardware in scs

but they're not preparing for war

nope

definitely not

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buti pa mga vietnamese, patriotic sila. Kahit print lang ng 9-dash line sa tshirt ng mga chinese tourist, apektado na sila.

dito, mismong mga pilipino pa ang nagtatanggol sa mga magnanakaw.

baka sabihin fake, kaya ito yung links:
Chinese tourists arriving in Vietnam ordered to take off their nine-dash line t-shirts – Shanghaiist
Anger in Vietnam after Chinese tourists are spotted in T-shirts with controversial South China Sea territory map | South China Morning Post
Chinese Tourists Fuel Tension in Vietnam
Vietnam warns travel firms following the case of Chinese tourists wearing controversial T-shirts - Tours - Travel - Hanoi Times

Friedship daw kasi natin ang China ... kaya kahit i-rape nila lahat na mga Pinay, ok lang kay mypres ... that's what friends do naman daw ... rape each other.

At takot si mypres pagsabihan ang Tsina kasi pag magcomplain daw siya eh giye-giyerahin ng Tsina ang Pinas ... Buti pa ang Vietnam, may ballz... pero wait, bukas makalawa tingnan mo, giye-gyerahin na ng Tsina ang Vietnam ... if you follow mypres' logic.

Di ko din maintindihan yung ibang mga Pinoy dyan, mukhang mas kampi pa nila ang Tsina ... unless .... unless .... nagpapanggap lang silang Pinoy sila in the first place.

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Ok, so based from the Chinaman intrerpretation Ph cannot claim the reef which is beyond China's EEZ and within Ph EEZ and you do believe the Chinaman?

And yes, Borneo belongs to Ph not untill your Poon's idol the late dictator Marcos f*cked up with the Jabidah Masacre resulting to more insurgency.

Di ba kaya nga may korte, para i-settle ang he said she said? ... and guess who won?

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ang tanga pala ng china di nila naisip may kakampi ang US dito sa region

sobra tanga ng china

Di ba tayo kakampi din ng US? ... wink wink.

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Wala naman war na mangyayari, Si dutiti lang nagsasabi niyang.

Nagpapalusot lang yan dahil duwag siya.

He's conditioning the mind of morons na kaya wala siyang ginagawa ayaw niya kuno ng giyera. [emoji23]

Gusot ng china mag giyera? I highly doubt it. I'm talking at the moment, if they are stupid enough to go to war with the superpower. They will be obliterated
Completely.

It's like his "war on drugs" hyped lang niya to justify yun thirst for blood niyan.


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Yup, mypres is just making up that fiction / fairy tale of war with China if/when he complains ... but 16M will take that as gospel truth.

[_Cathy_]

Gusot ng china mag giyera? I highly doubt it. I'm talking at the moment, if they are stupid enough to go to war with the superpower. They will be obliterated
Completely.


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They better not mess with the world's most powerful USA I hate China so much!

[ClaNker]

ang tanga pala ng china di nila naisip may kakampi ang US dito sa region

sobra tanga ng china

Naku totoo yan napaka tanga talaga ng China, walang kasing tanga.

Bodes well sa mga sympathizer. Horay China and Dutiti! [emoji23]

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[ClaNker]

They better not mess with the world's most powerful USA I hate China so much!

Malas ng China pag nakipag gyera sya sa US, he'll be up against the entire allied forces.

Google search will not even help China. [emoji16]

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