Digong, The President

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with today's technology, where war materiel can fall down from the sky anywhere on the planet, where can we hide?

but i have this feeling, nobody wants to go to war. not when a significant percentage of their economy is fed by customers outside their country.
but... i could be wrong. "madmen are not extinct in this world".

Eh, doc, pano kung dito lang sa SouthEastAsia ang giyera?... proxy war, say, between the US vs. China erupts in the REGION ... tapos ipit tayo? .... those who can will leave, for sure.

[uls]

Certainly. But China is untested in war.
Meantime, Chinese movies nowadays has a lot of plot featuring the might of their military -- in disasters, conflicts, rescue and humanitarian efforts - they feature their tactics, methods, arms, gadgets (with kung fu styles). They are mind conditioning their citizens of how good their army is, of course someone would ask how far is all of that from reality.

China's rise will balance the power play is Asia. But yeah your are right, its inevitable that they will lock each others horn in an effort to tilt the balance.

kahit untested ang China

again, Thucydides Trap

the US sees China as a threat to its number 1 position in the world

throughout history, more often than not, dominant powers and rising powers go to war

https://books.google.com.ph/books?id..._s&redir_esc=y

CHINA AND THE UNITED STATES ARE HEADING TOWARD A WAR NEITHER WANTS. The reason is Thucydides’s Trap, a deadly pattern of structural stress that results when a rising power challenges a ruling one. This phenomenon is as old as history itself. About the Peloponnesian War that devastated ancient Greece, the historian Thucydides explained: “It was the rise of Athens and the fear that this instilled in Sparta that made war inevitable.” Over the past 500 years, these conditions have occurred sixteen times. War broke out in twelve of them. Today, as an unstoppable China approaches an immovable America and both Xi Jinping and Donald Trump promise to make their countries “great again,” the seventeenth case looks grim. Unless China is willing to scale back its ambitions or Washington can accept becoming number two in the Pacific, a trade conflict, cyberattack, or accident at sea could soon escalate into all-out war.

In Destined for War, the eminent Harvard scholar Graham Allison explains why Thucydides’s Trap is the best lens for understanding U.S.-China relations in the twenty-first century. Through uncanny historical parallels and war scenarios, he shows how close we are to the unthinkable. Yet, stressing that war is not inevitable, Allison also reveals how clashing powers have kept the peace in the past — and what painful steps the United States and China must take to avoid disaster today.

[uls]

Yeah, But its surprising that its within our territory, and PH won the case to support it, but DU30 licks Xi Jinpings balls like its dipped in honey. how surprising is that?

Crap like there's gonna be war with China if we insist on our rights over those areas is like fearing a ghost in the closet, so why bother changing underwears?

China ain't gonna let some minor territorial dispute with a poor country stand in the way of their preparation for war with the US

[Monseratto]

One of these things has more bark than bite...

[dr. d]

Eh, doc, pano kung dito lang sa SouthEastAsia ang giyera?... proxy war, say, between the US vs. China erupts in the REGION ... tapos ipit tayo? .... those who can will leave, for sure.

"been there, done that."
of sorts.
world war II.

[dr. d]

One of these things has more bark than bite...

way back when, marcos had the entire front cover to himself.

[uls]

One of these things has more bark than bite...

oh ok

rise of autocrats

something i've been talking about

the establishment media finally writes about it

[Archerfish]

"been there, done that."
of sorts.
world war II.

Just how old are you?

Suddenly this one comes into my mind, "A gentleman never asks the age of a lady."

However, you aren't a lady and I'm not a gentleman so this could be an exception.

[uls]

the liberal world order established by the west in under threat

[Monseratto]

To the geniuses at the DFA, define "urgent" please...



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May travel agency ba tong si matet? .... hmmmm ....

[zoomzoom]

"been there, done that."
of sorts.
world war II.

You're a wold war II baby, doc? ... but that's different, if you are .... baby ka pa eh... walang ka muwang-muwang

[kisshmet]

China ain't gonna let some minor territorial dispute with a poor country stand in the way of their preparation for war with the US

theres not going to be a war between nuclear powers but saber rattling ang strategic posturing

phil vs china is more likely than a US vs china conflict

phil vs china will be a conventional warfare as compared to US vs china. US is banking on the idea that the phil will be l chinas vietnam as afghanistan were USSRs vietnam

but the phil leader has to be brave and not a quisling just as china hopes so

so far china has the upperhand with the current leaders we have now

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[leonleon]

Palace airs concern over Chinese missiles in S. China Sea | ABS-CBN News

“We are concerned with the reported China’s missile deployments over the contested areas in the West Philippine Sea,” Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque said in a statement.

Roque, however, said “[with] our recently developed close relationship and friendship with China, we are confident that those missiles are not directed at us."

Anak naman talaga ng tokwa oo.

Confident much?

Eh pano kung di na tayo friendship with Tsina?

Puro na lang bark, no bite ang gobyernong ito.

[leonleon]

phil vs china is more likely than a US vs china conflict

phil vs china will be a conventional warfare as compared to US vs china. US is banking on the idea that the phil will be l chinas vietnam as afghanistan were USSRs vietnam

+1

I can see this scenario happening in my lifetime.

[uls]

we are confident that those missiles are not directed at us

syempre hinde

those are meant for the US when war breaks out in the SCS

[uls]

theres not going to be a war between nuclear powers but saber rattling ang strategic posturing

phil vs china is more likely than a US vs china conflict

phil vs china will be a conventional warfare as compared to US vs china. US is banking on the idea that the phil will be l chinas vietnam as afghanistan were USSRs vietnam

but the phil leader has to be brave and not a quisling just as china hopes so

so far china has the upperhand with the current leaders we have now

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nope


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[kisshmet]

nope


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do you honestly believe china will cause their own extinction by firing the first shot at the USA?

the closest the 2 nuclear powers had gone to war was when a chinese pilot forced a P3 orion gathering electronic signal intel on chinese coast to land on the paracel island

chinese pilot was lost at sea..P3 orion was boarded and inspected by the chinese..later on returned to the US

one dead chinese and no american dead..no war

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[uls]

US and China on a collision course

a ruling power and a rising power

history says ruling powers and rising powers more often than not go to war

[Ry_Tower]

If one thing we could learn also from history is that the West vs. USSR was more likely to have caused WW3 but it did not.

So it is also a possibility that China and US will never engage in a full fledged war, conventional or nuclear.

The problem with China, as with USSR is that their model of gov't and economic strategy is not sustainable imho. It's highly polluting business model as some scholars mentioned will not sit well with the majority of the worlds population. Authoritarians maybe on the rise, but because it is inherently bad, Imho it will not succeed in the end.

Of course that is just my unprofessional view. I am no expert.

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