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    Uh-oh. Ito na ang resbak ni Digong. Drug Lords' testifying against Delima and then have her arrested

    Aguirre: Inmates to testify vs De Lima transferred to AFP facility | Inquirer News

    Tsk, tsk, task.

    Masaya ang Pasko.

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    Ewan ko kung dito ko nabasa or sa ibang forum na magready na daw punta sa america dahil pangit daw pamamahala presidente duterte. Eh bakit antagal nyo umalis ng pinas. Punta na america. Tapos pakulayan hair nyo and in 3months hindi na marunong magtagalog.

    Panahon nga ni erap naglayasan ba kayo. hahahahahah!!!

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    Chinabullying dapat ang priority1. Second ang economy. Di makapangisda mga fishermen natin sa Scarborough.

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    Yun naman senate hearing in aid of legislation, ibig sabihin nag-research lang sila kung pano i-draft ang bill para makagawa ng EJK Bill lol

    Kaya regardless kung sino may napatunayan dyan, irrelevant lol. Dito ko napapansin kung gano nila ginagawang tanga ang taumbayan. Kala ng taumbayan may resolution yun. Grandstanding lang ng senators nangyari

    Can we just abolish the senate and go for parliament


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    Quote Originally Posted by anonemus View Post
    Uh-oh. Ito na ang resbak ni Digong. Drug Lords' testifying against Delima and then have her arrested

    Aguirre: Inmates to testify vs De Lima transferred to AFP facility | Inquirer News

    Tsk, tsk, task.

    Masaya ang Pasko.
    And it looks like Trillanes is not getting the same attention.. Baka pumalag?

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    Nakita ko sa ibang forum.

    Dito sa photo na ito. High school grad ang isang edgar matobato. Kung same person yung senate witness at ito eh ang engot ng liberal party at naniwala basta basta. hahahahah!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by i.am.aids View Post
    And it looks like Trillanes is not getting the same attention.. Baka pumalag?
    Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Nakita ko sa ibang forum.

    Dito sa photo na ito. High school grad ang isang edgar matobato. Kung same person yung senate witness at ito eh ang engot ng liberal party at naniwala basta basta. hahahahah!!!!!


    Sabi nya 57 years old siya?

    2016 - 1961 = 55

    No idea if Matobato is a common surname...but definitely, the guy's no Oliver North.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Yun naman senate hearing in aid of legislation, ibig sabihin nag-research lang sila kung pano i-draft ang bill para makagawa ng EJK Bill lol

    Kaya regardless kung sino may napatunayan dyan, irrelevant lol. Dito ko napapansin kung gano nila ginagawang tanga ang taumbayan. Kala ng taumbayan may resolution yun. Grandstanding lang ng senators nangyari

    Can we just abolish the senate and go for parliament


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    For some bits, I thought I was watching clowns in a circus. I thought I saw the worst of it during Enrile's time at the realm but it looks like it's going downhill.

    GMA just got free from all cases while witness Jun Lozada is facing jail time.

    +1 horsepower for restructuring the government houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Senate committee members mismo ang nag sabi.
    Ang sagot ng tards eh: "bakit di kasali eh binoto ng tao yun, dapat kasali siya!"

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    Sa senate hearing about ejk.ear to ear ang ngiti ni former vp binay sa away ni trillanes at cayetano,calling koko😁😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonath View Post
    Ang sagot ng tards eh: "bakit di kasali eh binoto ng tao yun, dapat kasali siya!"
    Sabi nga ni kagalingan eh pumunta na daw sa US ang mga nag sabing pangit ang pamamalakad ng poon nya.

    Pwede yan sa isang kundisyon. Lahat ng pinoy na nasa ibang bansa na sumasamba kay pgong ay umuwi ng pinas, lalo na yung mga nasa US.

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    Seryosong tanong.

    Maganda ba ang pamamalakad ni PGong? Abay mas may abilidad pa si Erap pag dating sa foreign relation.

    Siguro kung isa ka sa mga sumasamba kay poon PGong abay oo. Di lang yun, sya ba ang the best president of the solar system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Seryosong tanong.

    Maganda ba ang pamamalakad ni PGong? Abay mas may abilidad pa si Erap pag dating sa foreign relation.

    Siguro kung isa ka sa mga sumasamba kay poon PGong abay oo. Di lang yun, sya ba ang the best president of the solar system.

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    As someone who voted Du30, I might get crucified here in the forum.

    For foreign relations, I would say he has not made good statements about US. Including to this is his statement regarding Australia during the rape joke event. He needs to shapen up this side of his leadership. I'd lose my mind if he does the same to Japan.

    Erap did well by appointing tons of advisers. Some say that's a sign of weakness of Erap but I think that would be a good move for Du30 as well. I just don't think it would happen.

    I'd like him to lessen public rants. That would vastly improve his current rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namwaran View Post
    As someone who voted Du30, I might get crucified here in the forum.

    For foreign relations, I would say he has not made good statements about US. Including to this is his statement regarding Australia during the rape joke event. He needs to shapen up this side of his leadership. I'd lose my mind if he does the same to Japan.

    Erap did well by appointing tons of advisers. Some say that's a sign of weakness of Erap but I think that would be a good move for Du30 as well. I just don't think it would happen.

    I'd like him to lessen public rants. That would vastly improve his current rating.
    It's totally fine you voted for PGong your not like the others. You know what I mean.

    I hope Abe will not call out PGong on the issue of Human Rights. You can bet your bottom dollar PGong will go loco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo149 View Post
    That doesn't make DDS true though, imbento lang ng media yan DDS.



    2013 and 2014. Interesting year of events, I wonder how he will explain this. But, one thing is true Motabato kills people for a living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by namwaran View Post
    As someone who voted Du30, I might get crucified here in the forum.

    For foreign relations, I would say he has not made good statements about US. Including to this is his statement regarding Australia during the rape joke event. He needs to shapen up this side of his leadership. I'd lose my mind if he does the same to Japan.

    Erap did well by appointing tons of advisers. Some say that's a sign of weakness of Erap but I think that would be a good move for Du30 as well. I just don't think it would happen.

    I'd like him to lessen public rants. That would vastly improve his current rating.

    imho:

    Just because you voted for somebody, doesn't mean that, right or wrong, you have to go along with everything he does. You elected a president, not a king.

    People tend to defend their "manok" because they voted for him; but when you think about it, we all voted for a certain candidate because we believe he/she was the best choice for our future...so when you think about it, we voted for ourselves, our country.

    With that line of thinking, when the "manok" does something wrong, then it's the "manok" who has to answer to his constituents, moreso to the people who voted for him.


    i know i should be a good citizen and not criticize my government or my president; to be honest i'm a little queasy with the possibility of revolt led by a very weak "Yellow" side. i'd much rather not care and deal with more immediate problems...

    ...but how else are you going to keep politicians honest?
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    mapapamura na naman si digong nito

    philippine-hitman-charge-sparks-duterte-probe-calls

    resbak ba ito ng mga kano?

    mumurahin na rin kaya nya si US State Department deputy spokesperson Mark Toner?

    pero nakakabingi katahimikan nya ngayon, noh?

    nagulat yata ... puro totoo ang sinabi ni matobato?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    That doesn't make DDS true though, imbento lang ng media yan DDS.



    2013 and 2014. Interesting year of events, I wonder how he will explain this. But, one thing is true Motabato kills people for a living.

    Cleverly planted witness, or for real? | Inquirer Opinion

    Cleverly planted witness, or for real?
    By: Solita Collas-Monsod
    Philippine Daily Inquirer12:26 AM September 17th, 2016

    Edgar Matobato: Is he a cleverly planted witness to destroy President Duterte’s reputation? Or is he for real? On the basis of what I have read and heard, these are the arguments for the two sides.

    That he is a cleverly planted, exhaustively coached false witness:

    Matobato refuses to say how he came to Manila and to the Senate; he refuses to say who financed his trip here. His reason for the refusal: He does not want the person or persons targeted—“mapag-initan.” (Interrogators: Senators Tito Sotto, Alan Peter Cayetano)

    He knows everything about the dirt of Mr. Duterte, but doesn’t know anything about the dirt of Sen. Leila de Lima, even as he claims he has no TV (the implication being that he is De Lima’s man, I think). (Interrogator: Cayetano)

    Furthermore, he says he joined the Witness Protection Program in 2014. De Lima was justice secretary then. Why didn’t she bring this out against Mr. Duterte then? (Cayetano’s question)

    His testimony has inconsistencies. Example: He claims he brought one of the victims, Salik Makdum, to PNP chief Bato dela Rosa’s office, together with an Arthur Lescano and others. But Dela Rosa said he never met Matobato until the hearing, although he knew of his reputation as a “tirador” (I guess that means a gun for hire). Also, he was mistaken with regard to the year the incident occurred, because that year, there was no more PAOCTF (Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Task Force) led by Panfilo Lacson. (Interrogator: Senator Lacson)

    Lacson likened Matobato to another whistle-blower, Ador Mawanay, who later recanted his testimony.

    Matobato could not even identify masking tape. He pointed to a brown tape identified by Cayetano as packaging tape. (Matobato said that as far as he was concerned, all the brown tapes were masking tape.)

    His testimony with regard to Mr. Duterte’s ordering four allies of then Speaker Prospero Nograles to be killed (in a particularly bestial way) was debunked by Nograles himself, who said that none of their allies were ever killed by Mr. Duterte. In spite of their bitter political rivalry, the Nograleses and the Dutertes are related by marriage.

    His testimony about the abduction and killing of the dance instructor-boyfriend of Mr. Duterte’s sister Jocelyn (on orders of Mr. Duterte) was denied by Jocelyn, who said she never had a dance instructor as a boyfriend.

    Vice Mayor Paolo Duterte also denied the allegations, but he also said he would not “dignify the accusations of a madman by an answer.”

    That he is “for real”:

    Why choose a person with very little education (Grade 1 was his highest level) to be coached and planted as a false witness? If Matobato was coached, it must have taken a very long time to do it, because of his Grade 1 status.

    He was a long-time security aide of the Dutertes, and he described how he and others escorted Paolo Duterte to school and saw him grow up. No one has refuted this. This also suggests that he can be a tirador.

    His testimony, precisely because it was obvious that he was not articulate (unlike Mawanay, who was so glib he was actually unbelievable), was credible. His description of how the DDS (Davao Death Squad) started had the ring of truth in it. Tripping him up on what masking tape was and when an incident took place (more than a decade ago) and confusing him with the use of English did not diminish that credibility. I particularly liked the part when Cayetano was asking him, after reading a document written in English, what he would think if the Commission on Human Rights said there was no such thing as the DDS, and he replied: I would not believe it. Because I was part of it. Simple.

    The amount of information he had, the familiarity with the Duterte family, the detail in which he described what took place (lobbing a grenade, dividing into three teams, the names of cohorts, etc.), and the horrors it evoked (cutting stomachs open and placing hollow blocks in them, chopping up bodies) have the ring of truth—or were the product of a really imaginative storyteller.

    What also has the ring of truth is his conversion, as it were, and his desire to leave the group, which led to his torture, his escape, and his going under the Witness Protection Program.

    In any event, the persons Matobato mentioned as having taken part in the killings can certainly be verified. So, too, can his testimony about where he and his cohorts buried the bodies (the Ma-a quarry, the Laud quarry). Was there a dance instructor who was killed? Was he Jocelyn’s dance instructor? Was Richard King pursuing the same woman as Paolo Duterte was? Was there a man shot dead in Deca homes subdivision? Such questions can be painstakingly verified, and the question “Is he for real?” answered.

    There is one problem: Who will do the investigating in Davao City? Can a team of independent investigators be formed who will not be trembling in their boots?

    But there is one story that seems to be made out of whole cloth—the story that this whole situation is part of a “Plan B” of the Liberal Party, which is to impeach Mr. Duterte and put Vice President Leni Robredo in. Who said that there is a Plan B? Cayetano, and only Cayetano. What his basis is, he did not say. Talk about imagination.

    Frankly, I find it wholly laughable, because practically the whole Liberal Party, very soon after the elections, went to the Duterte side. So: 1) where will the Liberal Party, with hardly any members left, get the numbers to impeach? And more importantly, 2) VP Robredo, upright as she is, has more statesmanship than all cheap politicians put together.

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